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07-07-2008 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bigticket
I love the No Limit players crossing the border to play at RA , man they are horrible at limit. It's so obvious when they pull the shades down when they are involved in a hand and take 30-60 seconds on each decision .

This might be the most entertaining part of the first week. Those guys probably won't be back though, so it's not likely to continue
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07-07-2008 , 02:59 PM
I played about 3 hours of 2-10 this past weekend at RA. Softest table I've ever played at, ever.

This was my first time ever playing 2-10, and the spewtards literally kept shoving their chips to me.

I was up over 240 after about three hours....
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07-07-2008 , 03:08 PM
$240 at 2/10 is nice, but nothing unusual. It often turns into 10/10/10/10, so it is comparable to a loose 6/12 game.

If you can avoid the gutshots and runner runner flushes, you can clean up.

2/10 and 4/20 at TI has been soft forever, I just feel like I am doing a lot more "gambling" than I do at CBY.
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07-07-2008 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MSPChris
I played about 3 hours of 2-10 this past weekend at RA. Softest table I've ever played at, ever.

This was my first time ever playing 2-10, and the spewtards literally kept shoving their chips to me.
This is true.
I played 2/10 at RA with many recognized 6/12, 8/16 type players from Canterbury who may or may not have ever played 2-10 before. They are used to cold calling raises in those loose Canterbury games so they had no trouble calling max raises, out of position with dominated type hands like KJoff and A5s which is a big mistake in spread limit.

Definitely profit to be made from NL and Fixed limit players trying spread limit for the first time.
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07-07-2008 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PorkchopDJG
This is true.
I played 2/10 at RA with many recognized 6/12, 8/16 type players from Canterbury who may or may not have ever played 2-10 before.
I did recognize several people from Canterbury -- but I don't know many players from the 6/12 8/16 games there. The types I saw at my table were definitely bar poker degenerates who knew even less than me (which is pretty bad.)

A couple of these guys needed showers badly. In fact -- the dealer even asked if any of the players had tried the showers out yet. Hilarious...
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07-07-2008 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RiskyBiz
I haven't been to RA yet but I was at Canterbury last night

The place seemed like a ghost town. There was no list for anything. Every game was open. The didn't even have a 30-60 going at the end of the night.

I played in the tournament (donkament)... got 8th (yay me)... anyways the place was so empty and quite it was weird. I've never sat in a card room where it was literally dead silent. It was kind of nice actually.

The smaller crowd did lead to increased service. I sat in a 4-8 game for a little bit... service was around quickly... the checks runners were right on top of everything.

The tournament drew its average field of around 90 players. Servers were all around, the floor was prompt, the room was nice and silent.

I kind of like the new quite and no wait Canterbury.
A ghost town at CP still means 20+ tables running.
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07-07-2008 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertOM
What is most disappointing is this:


This morning I went to CP again, and their $150+$25 tournament now has a GUARANTEED $15,000 prize pool. With only 79 that showed up, this truly made it a free roll- err "No Entry Fee" tournament with some extra cash on the side. Very Nice! I hear tomorrows Mega Stax tournament also has a $18,000 guaranteed prize pool. As well as a guaranteed pool for their Wed tournaments.
Damnit. I won the MegaStax on 6/15. It had 32 players and a $9600 prize pool. Would've LOVED the $18K guarantee. Of course, it was Father's Day, so all the good fathers were at home with their kids. Prolly not a typical turnout.
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07-07-2008 , 05:10 PM
Does anyone know where I can find some spread limit strategy information ?? I have searched the forum but, I have been unable to find much..

I even googled "spread limit holdem" strategy and there was nothing worthwhile, nothing I already did not know.

I would think there would be nuances to the game as compared to limit and nl.. I am not sure what they are though.
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07-07-2008 , 08:39 PM
Like many, I too went out to check out the new room. It has a little asian feel and looks like a nice resturant in las vegas. It dose not charge an ante for the standard blackjack witch is nice. But the Casino games and the pokers games need a little more of a devider if you ask me. I do like the sunken table, like the old conversation pits of the 70's.

I sat at 2/4 because the line was the shortest. The bord workers do not know to much, but there was a great guy helping out everyone and he knows what he is doing. It will be good in a month if you ask me. I had three dealors in my short stay, and they were good. Nice pitch and fast, even saw a 4 way chop. I did here a few others corecting dealors at other tables. It was the titest 2/4 game I had ever played in. If it stays that way, I would love it. I have no shame in playing for two hours or so and taking 100 bucks home with me.
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07-07-2008 , 08:58 PM
I can't imagine how slow the board must be. Probably similar to whenever cbury would hire a new board girl or like the 2 years it took Kenny to learn how to work it.
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07-07-2008 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchL
I can't imagine how slow the board must be. Probably similar to whenever cbury would hire a new board girl or like the 2 years it took Kenny to learn how to work it.
Much worse than the new board girl situations at CP. At RA there doesn't seem to be somebody that knows how to get things going. I'm sure they will eventually figure it out though.
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07-08-2008 , 05:53 AM
I just got back from a 3.5 hour session (2-10 spread limit)

Things appear to be running a lot smoother, didn't have to wait forever for the dealers to count the tray,,,,at least tonight. Service wasn't too bad either.

The first 2 hours sucked as I was at a weird table and couldn't get anything going...stiffer competition then last Wednesday. Called for a table change and started picking my spots...ended up 130 so not a bad night at all.

The floor did a good job tonight, kudos to them.

I noticed a lot of employees that (used to)work at Hinkley.. I'm assuming they don't anymore...?
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07-08-2008 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by slimhoss
Much worse than the new board girl situations at CP. At RA there doesn't seem to be somebody that knows how to get things going. I'm sure they will eventually figure it out though.

Not to be a suck up, but I got on a table right away both times and they did a good job...perhaps it's because it's a bit slower at midnight though.
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07-08-2008 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleChamp
Does anyone know where I can find some spread limit strategy information ?? I have searched the forum but, I have been unable to find much..

I even googled "spread limit holdem" strategy and there was nothing worthwhile, nothing I already did not know.

I would think there would be nuances to the game as compared to limit and nl.. I am not sure what they are though.
I would think a bit tighter pre-flop than limit in EP and a bit looser than limit pre-flop with position. Almost never cold-calling raises, instead reraising with big pairs, AK and AQs? Relentless value-betting postflop? Just some thoughts off the top of my head, hopefully stronger players here will blow holes in my suggestions and lay out an optimal strategy.
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07-08-2008 , 11:47 AM
It will probably be fine with a much bigger room in an area with a much bigger player pool to draw from, but imo the 2-10 game really screwed up the little rooms in Duluth (now closed) and Carlton (still open but a fraction of the action it used to have). For whatever reason, the 2-10 caught on in both places to the point that it was often the only game going. Guys who wouldn't have sat a 5/10 limit seemed happy to play 2-10 and a lot of them had no effing clue whatsoever. Limp for 2, cold call raise to 12..... Made for good games but seemed to bust a lot of kids who would otherwise have been good regulars in a 2/4 or 3/6.

Probably just a function of very small player pools for both rooms, but something that I would hope RA will keep an eye on.
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07-08-2008 , 01:37 PM
If it wasn't for spread I'm not so sure I'd play cash games in MN.
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07-09-2008 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TBW54022
Hudson WI (old dog track) would be very well positioned to gain all the Twin Cities NL business....but the state won't go for it! Still upsets me, cause that would be a sweet drive for me!
I can't believe whomever is in charge in WI doesn't do this with the old dog track in Hudson. If you had NL games right there so close to the Twin Cities it would be jam packed all the time. There would be so many driving over there on weekends they would have to add another lane to 94 East.
This would easily become the biggest card room in the upper Midwest.
I just can't believe they haven't done this.
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07-09-2008 , 11:31 AM
I think it's because all of the card rooms in Wisconsin are Native-owned because of an Indian Gaming Compact and the Hudson site is not Native-owned.
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07-09-2008 , 12:17 PM
BTW, not sure how difficult it is to modify existing compacts in Wisconsin, but in Minnesota it's politically all but impossible because modifications require tribal approval. The legislature cannot unilaterally modify them since there are, I believe, essentially treaties with sovereign nations (maybe not formally called treaties, but treaties in effect). Canterbury tried for years to get slots but under Minnesota's compact, those are reserved for Native-owned casinos. Maybe poker rooms have a similar restriction in Wisconsin?
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07-09-2008 , 02:21 PM
Anyone know if the 30/60 runs every night? I want to head over there, but no sure they can get a game going during the week.
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07-09-2008 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Palomino
Anyone know if the 30/60 runs every night? I want to head over there, but no sure they can get a game going during the week.
it's run every night i've been there (4 different weeknights) - but during the day it's questionable and there's a real possibility it will be shorthanded for a time and/or break latenight. twice the game has started when i was there in the afternoon and once it broke after midnight when i was in it. so i know it doesn't go 24/7. also - 2 out of the 3 sessions i played it was what i would consider a bad game. the average canterbury 30 game has been softer, in my limited experience.
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07-09-2008 , 09:07 PM
Thanks...I played the first night and it was definately a bad game. O well, hopefully it will bring in some fish soon.
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07-09-2008 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by willie24
it's run every night i've been there (4 different weeknights) - but during the day it's questionable and there's a real possibility it will be shorthanded for a time and/or break latenight. twice the game has started when i was there in the afternoon and once it broke after midnight when i was in it. so i know it doesn't go 24/7. also - 2 out of the 3 sessions i played it was what i would consider a bad game. the average canterbury 30 game has been softer, in my limited experience.
Who was in it?
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07-09-2008 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleChamp
Does anyone know where I can find some spread limit strategy information ?? I have searched the forum but, I have been unable to find much...I even googled "spread limit holdem" strategy and there was nothing worthwhile, nothing I already did not know.
I wrote to Mat Sklansky ovr a week ago about adding a Spread Limit forum. I haven't received a reply yet. I wrote to Dynasty about it. He replied that he doesn't think there would be much interest in it.

All who are interested in having a Spread Limit forum please write to Mat.
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07-10-2008 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread
BTW, not sure how difficult it is to modify existing compacts in Wisconsin, but in Minnesota it's politically all but impossible because modifications require tribal approval. The legislature cannot unilaterally modify them since there are, I believe, essentially treaties with sovereign nations (maybe not formally called treaties, but treaties in effect). Canterbury tried for years to get slots but under Minnesota's compact, those are reserved for Native-owned casinos. Maybe poker rooms have a similar restriction in Wisconsin?
I'm not sure this is true. It's my understanding that there is nothing in the gambling agreements w/ the Natives that says what the state can or can't do. It's just what the Natives can or can't do. Obviously though they would be rather upset if the state stole some of their thunder so to speak. So, politically impossible - yes. Impossible because of what's already in writing - no.

(I'm like 65% sure about that.)
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