new card room rocks, I live just north of 610 so it's a much better drive and it's a much nicer room. I have a feeling Canterbury might be in for a world of trouble. I was there opening night and I thought they did ok being it is there first night. Much more open than Canterbury. Whosoever idea it was to make it so you have to walk thru the Casino games to get to the poker room is an excellent idea as far as getting people to play. When I cashed out Monday night it was pretty tempting to play on my way out. I hope they put a sign up for the Bad Beat jackpot cause I really didn't see any kinda sign for that, but I will def be back. Has anyone tried the food yet? One thing about Canterbury I always liked there food

Kristy can wait on my table any time she wants.

Played there last night....beautiful room....first class poker room as far as look and feel. Great chairs, so comfy....Players club is pretty sweet.

Sunk in table was a brilliant idea, should both encourage people to try poker and also have something to do while they're waiting.

There are some great games available, the trouble is they aren't on the board. Stud would be a blasty and omaha is a great game....I think they had only omaha last night. Apparently they are supposed to be able to rock RAZZ but it would take some major campaigning to start a table...

sure the kinks with filling seats will work out soon...

This is probably the worse thing I have heard about the new place.
How big a difference does this rake make to a regular 6/12, 8/16 player?

Does this mean smaller pots get raked more at RA?

The other things will probably improve with time but this may be the one thing that keeps me driving out to Canterbury sometimes.

I agree...you take that little $50 pot and now it's $6 out instead of $3 at C-bury? OUCH?

Anyone here have a feel for how many pros, 2p2 folks or otherwise (not just strong players, but people who make all or most of their income from poker), there are who play on a regular basis at CP? And of those, know of any of them who've talked about shifting their base to RA?

Any pro is going to go where the game is, regardless of the amenities.

Pokerbob,
Your thoughts on this rake difference?

I don't dispute that, just wondering if anyone has a guesstimate of how many pros there are at CP. Yeah, I've got too much time on my hands...

Pros defined as people who dont have another "job" beside playing at Canterbury or as defined as people who are successful at making a decent living out there.

I would guess that maybe 250 try to make a living out there and 50-75 probably do.

I am no expert on rake analysis, but my guess is that it really won't matter. 6/12 and 8/16 players tend to be little gamboooolers, thus lots of them are going to be seeing flops and turns. This means the pots are going to be big and hit the rake maximum anyway. I think in a tighter game where there are more hu and 3handed pots there will be a difference, but if you are in such a game you should change tables because there is no reason to sit in any 6/12 - 8/16 game that doesn't have at least 3players willing to call 3bets cold with KTo.

This sounds like a great game. Is this normal ??

I like the under on both of your numbers.

I haven't played at RA yet so I can't say for sure there but at Canterbury there are many players who call 2 or 3 cold with even worse than KT off.

We thank them for building huge pots.

I agree with Poker Bob...in that a higher than normal percentage of pots will get to the max in a typical 8/16 game (if this place is like C-Bury)...however there are still a large number of pots that are in the < $50 range...so I think it will be impactful.

there is no reason to sit in any 6/12 - 8/16 game doesn't have at least 3players willing to call 3bets cold with KTo.

Haven't played at CP in a while, but when I did it was hudge dif btwn 6/12 and 8/16. 8/16 game full of awsomely insance gamboolers, 6/12 pretty nitty. above statement truish for the 8/16 there but you could sit there a long time looking for a 6/12 that fit. Maybe things have changed.

I think people really underestimate how many people DON'T go to canterbury solely because it's a super long drive for anyone not in the south/west metro or mb parts of mpls. I think everything will be fine because now people on the north part have a quick little jaunt (15 minutes from 694/35w).

I went up there last night and was really impressed. It felt like playing at the venetian. Very spacious, nice tables/chairs, dealers didn't get on people for using 'bad words'. It just felt like a fun atmosphere. I was annoyed though when I called and they wouldn't connect me to the board to tell me what limits were going. I imagine they'll change that, otherwise they're really gonna be hurting their business. Also, they need player boxes for storing $.

This is spot on. I'm one of them.

they had better spread mixed games or im gonna be very ****ing irritated.

need players before you can spread a game

if 4 guys show up and wanna play 30 60 HOE will they spread it?

It really depends. I must be getting lucky in my table selection or something because I have been at a bunch of super loose 6/12 games at Canterbury lately(by lately I mean like 6 or 7 in the past 2 and a half months. I head there on Thursday, Friday, and Monday's. Figure most of the fishy types will be out on these days and it's rung true for me. Made at least $45/hr off them during my time.

To give you an idea of how loose one of the tables I was at Friday was:
I flopped the nut straight on a rainbow board, and it was capped 6 ways on the flop.

Agreed. I make it to Canterbury once or twice a year, I'm sure I'll make the ten minute drive to RA a lot more. I think geographically, they are well positioned to pick up a lot of business from people that aren't making the drive to Canterbury.

I am planning on stopping in there tomorrow night.

Your nut str8 over bottom str8 over set over set over set over top two???

Hudson WI (old dog track) would be very well positioned to gain all the Twin Cities NL business....but the state won't go for it! Still upsets me, cause that would be a sweet drive for me!