I didn't see a thread about Riverwind. I get there from time to time. It would be nice if some of the local {poker} players would post information about promotions or tournaments.

http://www.riverwind.com/

The tournament structures here are horrible, but there cash games have to be some of the juiciest ones that I have been in.

Typically busier & more cash games than River Spirit in Tulsa. More comparable to Hard Rock - Tulsa/ Catoosa. Games appear looser than in Tulsa, but I've almost always run bad there. Bought in under-rolled at 2/5 once and got blown away from the table in 3 orbits by some OU kids that knew what they were doing.

I saw a list started for 2-1 ROE. Anyone one know if this actually runs?

Play there regularly mostly NLHE 1-2. They have been open 24/7 but recently announced they are closing room from about 3am till 9am and letting go of almost half of the dealers. I think the new hours start after Jan 4, 2014. They say the reason is the poker room operates in the red. Not sure how that could be true but do not think it makes the money that the slots bring in.

I was a regular here from 2006 til 2010, I moved away just before they moved the poker room and business has never quite been the same since any of the times I have been back...I'm not entirely sure if it was the move, the fact the move also coincided a bit with the ending of the online games in the U.S. or a combination of both. I am well aware management is not big on poker and that they had to be desperately talked out of not putting the room upstairs where the OTB room is, apparently that was the initial plan but they managed to be talked out of it (they'd have had only around 10 tables up there)

I'm moving to Norman in a couple months. What is the best casino to go to around that area?

Riverwind is your best option within minimal driving distance (imo). I've only played there twice but their 2/5 game plays more like a 1/2 game other places I've played in OK so if you have the roll then I suggest playing in it over their 1/2 game. The casino in Shawnee is close to you as well but I hate playing there.

I play here all the time. Poker has been severely cut back. They've even started limiting the tourney entrants. Saturday there's a short stack rebuy tournament that's stupid soft. Guys calling down monster bets with 4 cards to a straight, holding tp trash kicker. You could fold out and bust after half the field. 1/2 is hit or miss abc 90% of the time. Though at times, uber nit tables especially during the weekdays. 2/5 depends on the lineup. The weekends soften it up, the weekdays have solid regs. "imo"
Bonus: Westbrook occasionally tries 1/2 PLO.

Is there any interest/enough players to try and get a weekday 5-10 NLH running?

Is this the best place around OKC? I'm headed over there in a few weeks for work and would like to be able to checkout some rooms.

For NLH yes. Spreads 1-2, 1-3, and 2-5 everyday from 9 a.m. - 3 a.m (2/5 usually runs from noon until 1-2 in the morning, everyday). We play 5/10 NLH on Wednesday, and 2-5 PLO on Tuesday.

If you want a consistent PLO game LuckyStar Casino in the area is where most of the games are.

Table selection is kinda sparse at Riverwind now a-days, and the game is pretty tight/reg filled. For a casino the size we are we have probably 10-12 grinders/pros that play daily (when they aren't in Vegas). WinStar has better table/game selection if you're willing to make the drive.

I don't play poker very often anymore due to my work schedule and the fact I like to travel quite often when I'm not busy.

I used to play at Riverwind casino in Norman, OK quite a bit and had a couple questions come up last night.

1. I was involved in a hand where I was in the BB and called a small raise from late position with A8 suited. I call small flop and turn bets and the river is checked.
Basically, I was involved in a pot with a guy I really wanted to be in pots with but eventually ended up with ace high and when it went check check on the river I looked at him to turn his hand over. He had his headphones on and just stared at me. I don't mind turning my hand over because I am never embarrassed as some people are but I wanted to know the ruling. I am under the impression that the player who made the last aggressive action has to expose their cards first. Meaning since he made the last bet it's on him. I was told that's not the rule at Riverwind except in all in situations if I called his all in (standard).
Is this standard elsewhere? This issue isn't that big of a deal but just curious as the general rule of thought.

This next issue is a big one in my mind. The same player requested a table change (not a must move game) and the floor actually requires players to buy down to the buy in of the transfer.
Further explained. If you are playing 2/5 with a buy in from $200-$500 and you get up to $1000. If you request a table change you HAVE to pocket at least $500 but could pocket $800 and buy in short for $200. Basically, to exploit this, you could keep buying in short, doubling up, changing tables to pocket the money. Rinse and repeat.
This rule seems very backwards to me, I know this is not the standard at other casinos and in fact it's usually required to keep all money on the table. Is this becoming the new norm or any logical reason for it?

Anyone have any luck trying to change poker room rules in Oklahoma?

Tl;dr - Results of the session, playing at a table with a lot of players I would like to play 24 hours a day with - obviously I lost.

1. House rules apply if the river gets checked around. Some rooms make the last aggressor show first, others the player who was first to speak on the river.


2. Not standard, but not the first place I heard about that allows going south while changing tables.

A rule that whoever acts first has to show first when the river gets checked around is common.

Thanks for your responses. Like I said, wasn't sure if the rules were common or extremely rare. I am definitely not a fan the going south rule and would like to see that one changed though.

It's more common than you would think. I agree it's a dumb rule. It used to be the rule at Winstar (Riverwind's sister casino) but they changed it a while back to be last aggressive action. That being said, like most rules in poker there is still a chance the enforcement of the rule could vary depending on who is dealing and who is working floor at the time.

No, this is not a new norm. Only other casino I know that does this is Winstar. I'm sure part of the logic behind the rule is that they don't want to deal with the enforcement of players going North when they change tables. This rule is much easier to enforce.

For one to really exploit this in their favor they would need to be a good short stacker, and fortunately there is only one good live shortstacker in the entire state of Oklahoma so I don't think you need to worry too much about that. Sure, bad players could potentially limit the amount they can lose in any one hand but it's really not a big deal (ie the best players generally build stacks staying at one table and their winrates don't appear to suffer as a result of this rule). BTW, in Vegas you can double up and change poker rooms...in other poker rooms you can double up and change levels or double up and come back in an hour. This isn't much different.


For the most part, I believe the answer to that question is no. That being said, rules do change from time to time so I'm not going to say it's impossible.

I've never actually played at Riverwind but I did stop by the poker room last week. Not sure what's up with that little room but it felt to me like they took a bunch of a poker tables and tried to cram them all into a phone booth. I entered the room, looked around, saw a couple faces I knew but overall everyone had an "I want to kill myself" expression. I couldn't get out of there quick enough. FWIW, I stopped at Kansas Star a couple hours north of Riverwind and that room was quite nice. Too bad they only had 1/3 running on a Friday night though.

They need to do a HUGE facelift to the poker page on their website. Their content is horrendous. Good thing I'm here playing apparently there's a deep stack $330 with awesome structure. Not mentioned anywhere except inside the room.

I'll be making another visit to Riverwind Saturday evening (late). Just to verify the poker room closes at 4:30am?


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interesting they run both 1/2 NLHE and 1/3 NLHE and the smaller game gets all the love

The 1-2 has historically been the small game, they just started running 1-3 also. Winstar started doing this a few years ago, and it took the 1-3 time to get traction. These days at Winstar it's around 50/50, maybe slightly more 1-2 than 1-3. It matters, since the games have a hard cap 100BB max buyin.

Anyone played here recently? I'm about to start making a trip once a week. Weekdays have any good action or all regs?

Still not open. It probably won't be long though since Winstar (another Chicksaw property) just reopened. Anyone have the inside baseball?

Also Cory, you probably figured this out (4 years down the road), If not though, it is almost all regs on weekdays. It is rare that a weekday/weeknight game with solid action.