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08-02-2010 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blinden84
AFter being in both rooms now, I have mixed feelings. I feel like if they took the best of both rooms, it would be a tremendously awesome poker room. Things I didn't like about the Rivers this weekend

Smoke. It's a non smoking room, but yet I still left smelling like smoke and had to deal with dry burning eyes the whole time because of smoke coming in.

Noise. So loud, need more of a barrier, make walls instead of rails I guess, less noise, less smoke...

Suits. I had a couple unfavorable encounters. One what I considered to be a bad ruling regarding what should have been a split pot (not involved in the hand) that I think the floor just ruled to give it to the player already shipped because they didn't want to deal with it and a semi argument over how stupid the traveling button is, but the floor got real testy, almost to the point where I think it was his idea, it's like we (the whole table was basically complaining about it because of a situation where a guy had a missed blind button and came in on the BB but then SB left and for some reason the dealer didn't know what to do). Also one player asked if he could get a players card, and the dealer called over a suit and he begrudgingly agreed and since he was doing it, I asked if he could get me one too (I put my name on list and walked over to the players club area, but the line was about 50 minutes long) when I asked, he did this exaggerated sigh and grabbed my license out of my hand. Thanks for the favor, buddy.

Any other points I would make have already been covered in great detail (table size, bravo system, etc) but the action was fantastic, so I'll be back for certain, a lot better action then I saw at the meadows. The dealers weren't terrible, had a couple of slow ones, but I would rather they take their time and cost us a few hands during their down then screwing up something important.
i got mixed feelings 2, mainly about the suits. some of them have attitudes, some are unsuitworthy, for lack of a better word, IMO at least. most have been pretty good though. havent had many problems with the dealers, management has done a decent job of keeping the better dealers in the bigger string. when i got my players card the suit who got it was real nice about it, similiar situation to yours.
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08-02-2010 , 07:17 PM
A slight problem I have with the room involves reduced rake. I have gotten 2 different rulings from different people regarding this. One time we got reduced rake with 6 players, and a few hours later (after a few players had come and then busted out, leaving us back to 6 players) a new floor person said no reduced rake until it was down to 5. The dealers also appear to have no clue what reduced rake is (some of them, anyway).

I don't think you should have to ask for a reduced rake. If the table gets to 6 (or 5, if that's your rule) handed or less, reduced rake should automatically kick in. The casino is basically on a freeroll if there is a table of 4 people playing 4/8 limit paying full rake if no one knows about the option to have a reduced rake. This is pretty shady imo and it also stalls the games when we have to ask and have a floor come over and "approve" a reduced rake when we are 4 handed.
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08-02-2010 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by buccobaseball24
A slight problem I have with the room involves reduced rake. I have gotten 2 different rulings from different people regarding this. One time we got reduced rake with 6 players, and a few hours later (after a few players had come and then busted out, leaving us back to 6 players) a new floor person said no reduced rake until it was down to 5. The dealers also appear to have no clue what reduced rake is (some of them, anyway).

I don't think you should have to ask for a reduced rake. If the table gets to 6 (or 5, if that's your rule) handed or less, reduced rake should automatically kick in. The casino is basically on a freeroll if there is a table of 4 people playing 4/8 limit paying full rake if no one knows about the option to have a reduced rake. This is pretty shady imo and it also stalls the games when we have to ask and have a floor come over and "approve" a reduced rake when we are 4 handed.
No dealer will ever approve a reduced rake. Anything involving rake will always be approved by a supervisor and surviellance notified. A full ring game that has become short handed (6 or less) will qualify for a reduced rake as of 8/2/2010.

Last edited by PittsburghKid4; 08-02-2010 at 09:51 PM.
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08-02-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by blinden84
AFter being in both rooms now, I have mixed feelings. I feel like if they took the best of both rooms, it would be a tremendously awesome poker room. Things I didn't like about the Rivers this weekend

Smoke. It's a non smoking room, but yet I still left smelling like smoke and had to deal with dry burning eyes the whole time because of smoke coming in.
Good point, and I forgot to mention it. Like you, I hated the smoke.

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Originally Posted by blinden84
Noise. So loud, need more of a barrier, make walls instead of rails I guess, less noise, less smoke...
But I love the noise, because it means we're connected to the casino. Our honorable leader Mason taught me to love the noise in one of his Poker Essays.

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Originally Posted by blinden84
Suits. I had a couple unfavorable encounters.
I haven't seen any unfriendly suits yet, in fact, quite the contrary. But I do wish they could smile and put a few players in the empty seats at the same time!
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08-03-2010 , 08:26 AM
Fri night, I decided to call in. When I got there, I was told some1 removed my name from the list but a floor found me a seat immediately.(Thanks Matt!!)

The action was very good. Although I didn't plan on it, my session ended up being about 25 hours straight, LOL. It was the 1st time I had ever played a live session this long. I was obv tired, but surprisingly much more alert than I should have been. At one point, I was stuck for 9 but ended up getting very close to even, so it was a pretty SICK 25 hour sess.

As we got into the wee hours of the morning, we were short handed and decided to play a mandatory straddle(1-3-6) which made the game very interesting and much more fun.



On Sunday, I finally decided to try out The Meadows for the 1st time. IMO, there were many differences which I don't feel like going into. I doubt very much I'll ever go back, The Rivers will be my home casino.
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08-03-2010 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghKid4
No dealer will ever approve a reduced rake. Anything involving rake will always be approved by a supervisor and surviellance notified. A full ring game that has become short handed (6 or less) will qualify for a reduced rake as of 8/2/2010.
im glad to see this. scott did give us at 5 10 a reduced rake friday, didnt help me much LOL. wanted to ask you garrett if they are thinking about a 3rd man walking rule, which i would HATE WITH A PASSION. i heard some rumblings about this possibly.

also wanna know if theres any chance of a 2 5 10 game?

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08-04-2010 , 02:07 PM
Hey one thing i noticed at the rivers casino i been reading into this illuminati stuff and i noticed on the 25 green chips it had a triangle on it can some1 explain to me what that means on the chip from my understand about the illuminati they use these signals its on the back of a dollar bill and also the players at the rivers casino is super duper fishalishious
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08-04-2010 , 11:05 PM
lol the black $100s have an asterisk on them too. havent held a $500 yet imo
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08-05-2010 , 09:36 AM
last night i heard that they are having a 200 dollar tournament sometime in the near future, can we confirm this at all?
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08-05-2010 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Alby1
confirmed
Before the state approves tournaments?
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08-05-2010 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Alby1
you need a new battery for your sarcasm detector.
Hard to get inflection from a one word post.
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08-05-2010 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tycho_bray
Before the state approves tournaments?
The state doesn't need to approve tournaments, they were already approved with table games, but the rivers is not taking away any cash tables to run a tournament, they were waiting for approval on more tournament tables
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08-05-2010 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by devilman2075
The state doesn't need to approve tournaments, they were already approved with table games, but the rivers is not taking away any cash tables to run a tournament, they were waiting for approval on more tournament tables
Thanks for correcting me. Do you mind providing a link where in the regulations tournaments are specified?
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08-05-2010 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tycho_bray
Thanks for correcting me. Do you mind providing a link where in the regulations tournaments are specified?
meadows starting tournaments tomorrow so it must be the issue with tables why rivers arent starting up tournies yet.
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08-05-2010 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tycho_bray
Thanks for correcting me. Do you mind providing a link where in the regulations tournaments are specified?
Not sure this specifically answers your question, the July 10, 2010 regulations, pages 38, 41, 44, 57, 58, 59 (in the PDF version of the consolidated temporary regs) all make reference to tournaments and tournament chips. That being said, it does not make clear whether a room that did not apply for tourneys must apply for them, not does it offer many specifics regarding how they are to be run.

Meadows asked for tourneys and, according to its thread, is starting them tomorrow.
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08-05-2010 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gydyon
Not sure this specifically answers your question, the July 10, 2010 regulations, pages 38, 41, 44, 57, 58, 59 (in the PDF version of the consolidated temporary regs) all make reference to tournaments and tournament chips. That being said, it does not make clear whether a room that did not apply for tourneys must apply for them, not does it offer many specifics regarding how they are to be run.

Meadows asked for tourneys and, according to its thread, is starting them tomorrow.
I thought I had searched for the word 'tournament' in that document earlier but I must be mistaken.

It is amazing how they dance around tournaments in the regs but don't really have any specifics about them.
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08-05-2010 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tycho_bray
I thought I had searched for the word 'tournament' in that document earlier but I must be mistaken.

It is amazing how they dance around tournaments in the regs but don't really have any specifics about them.
No, you did, we even talked about it in another thread, but they were updated.
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08-06-2010 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by robrtcarrington
Hey one thing i noticed at the rivers casino i been reading into this illuminati stuff and i noticed on the 25 green chips it had a triangle on it can some1 explain to me what that means on the chip from my understand about the illuminati they use these signals its on the back of a dollar bill and also the players at the rivers casino is super duper fishalishious
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Originally Posted by 99killed
lol the black $100s have an asterisk on them too. havent held a $500 yet imo
finally got one playing some bj - not illuminati imo but some sort of security thing. iphone camera is a little fuzzy but that a star on the 500- on the hunt for the 1k imo. gotta color up 1000 at the bj.

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08-06-2010 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerforjoker
meadows starting tournaments tomorrow so it must be the issue with tables why rivers arent starting up tournies yet.
Pennsyltucky is not the same state as Pennsylvania. Completely different laws.

Finally made it down there the other night. I was surprised at how poor the play was. My being surprised by this is the one constant I have in life.

Only one dealer had any trouble at all with reading hands, but I was only there for 3 hours.

And it is in Pittsburgh, the nicest city in the world!

Last edited by BrianTheMick; 08-06-2010 at 10:09 PM.
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08-08-2010 , 12:51 AM
Second evening there tonight... 1-3 NL...

I was at a table with 2 drunks (one friendly and funny, the other incoherent and possibly angry - both spewy), one lag who couldn't fold once he was in a hand and would bet for everyone (he was my favorite), 1 guy who thought he outplayed someone when he got all in before the flop with a pair of 4s against a pair of aces (?!?), one guy who would start to fold if you reached for chips if it was HU (and then consistently folded), one guy who played every hand he was in to the river (unless someone bet more than $50. Yes, specifically $50, regardless of pot odds), and one guy who went into the tank every hand he was in. And random other players who came and went.

The 2nd to the last guy taught me a lesson. Pot odds are important to me, but apparently no one else cares about them. Calling $45 is easy, calling $50 is hard. Regardless of how much is already in the pot.

I saw a $100+ dollar HU pot folded to a $10 all-in bet on the river. No one ever has that good of a read.

I saw lots of min raises by someone with aces in an already raised pre-flop hand. And then lots of whining that everyone called.

Average to the flop was 6-ish.

I had one player who berated me for betting the river into a side pot when it was obvious that either he or the all in player had missed their draw... It was hard not to explain to him that we weren't playing a tournament... Luckily we had a table coach there to explain to us how both of our plays were wrong throughout the hand.

The dealers are getting better, except for the one dude who seems to be angry at the chips (he swears under his breath a lot at them), and the girl who can't read a hand when there is a showdown. They vary, but are all friendly. The best are the tall skinny black dude and the one who kind of looks like Penn from Penn and Teller. Both of them keep the game friendly, and move it along well.

I did also notice that there is a clear distinction between afternoon cocktail waitresses and night ones. The night ones seem to be a lot more top heavy in a good way. I imagine at some meeting, the following was said, "sorry hon, but you don't have quite the qualities (glances down at breasts) we are looking for when we are really busy. Perhaps you should take one of our afternoon shifts and save up for some enhancements."
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08-08-2010 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick
I had one player who berated me for betting the river into a side pot when it was obvious that either he or the all in player had missed their draw... It was hard not to explain to him that we weren't playing a tournament... Luckily we had a table coach there to explain to us how both of our plays were wrong throughout the hand.
LOL! Sounds like a typical live game
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08-08-2010 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick
Second evening there tonight... 1-3 NL...

I was at a table with 2 drunks (one friendly and funny, the other incoherent and possibly angry - both spewy), one lag who couldn't fold once he was in a hand and would bet for everyone (he was my favorite), 1 guy who thought he outplayed someone when he got all in before the flop with a pair of 4s against a pair of aces (?!?), one guy who would start to fold if you reached for chips if it was HU (and then consistently folded), one guy who played every hand he was in to the river (unless someone bet more than $50. Yes, specifically $50, regardless of pot odds), and one guy who went into the tank every hand he was in. And random other players who came and went.

The 2nd to the last guy taught me a lesson. Pot odds are important to me, but apparently no one else cares about them. Calling $45 is easy, calling $50 is hard. Regardless of how much is already in the pot.

I saw a $100+ dollar HU pot folded to a $10 all-in bet on the river. No one ever has that good of a read.

I saw lots of min raises by someone with aces in an already raised pre-flop hand. And then lots of whining that everyone called.

Average to the flop was 6-ish.

I had one player who berated me for betting the river into a side pot when it was obvious that either he or the all in player had missed their draw... It was hard not to explain to him that we weren't playing a tournament... Luckily we had a table coach there to explain to us how both of our plays were wrong throughout the hand.

The dealers are getting better, except for the one dude who seems to be angry at the chips (he swears under his breath a lot at them), and the girl who can't read a hand when there is a showdown. They vary, but are all friendly. The best are the tall skinny black dude and the one who kind of looks like Penn from Penn and Teller. Both of them keep the game friendly, and move it along well.

I did also notice that there is a clear distinction between afternoon cocktail waitresses and night ones. The night ones seem to be a lot more top heavy in a good way. I imagine at some meeting, the following was said, "sorry hon, but you don't have quite the qualities (glances down at breasts) we are looking for when we are really busy. Perhaps you should take one of our afternoon shifts and save up for some enhancements."

Not sure how often you play here but this is a normal day at the Rivers poker room.
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08-09-2010 , 10:01 AM
I hate to ask but tourney's have they started b/c I see the Meadows has.
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08-09-2010 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick
Second evening there tonight... 1-3 NL...

I was at a table with 2 drunks (one friendly and funny, the other incoherent and possibly angry - both spewy), one lag who couldn't fold once he was in a hand and would bet for everyone (he was my favorite), 1 guy who thought he outplayed someone when he got all in before the flop with a pair of 4s against a pair of aces (?!?), one guy who would start to fold if you reached for chips if it was HU (and then consistently folded), one guy who played every hand he was in to the river (unless someone bet more than $50. Yes, specifically $50, regardless of pot odds), and one guy who went into the tank every hand he was in. And random other players who came and went.

The 2nd to the last guy taught me a lesson. Pot odds are important to me, but apparently no one else cares about them. Calling $45 is easy, calling $50 is hard. Regardless of how much is already in the pot.

I saw a $100+ dollar HU pot folded to a $10 all-in bet on the river. No one ever has that good of a read.

...and no tearny's yet

I saw lots of min raises by someone with aces in an already raised pre-flop hand. And then lots of whining that everyone called.

Average to the flop was 6-ish.

I had one player who berated me for betting the river into a side pot when it was obvious that either he or the all in player had missed their draw... It was hard not to explain to him that we weren't playing a tournament...
Luckily we had a table coach there to explain to us how both of our plays were wrong throughout the hand.

The dealers are getting better, except for the one dude who seems to be angry at the chips (he swears under his breath a lot at them), and the girl who can't read a hand when there is a showdown. They vary, but are all friendly. The best are the tall skinny black dude and the one who kind of looks like Penn from Penn and Teller. Both of them keep the game friendly, and move it along well.

I did also notice that there is a clear distinction between afternoon cocktail waitresses and night ones. The night ones seem to be a lot more top heavy in a good way. I imagine at some meeting, the following was said, "sorry hon, but you don't have quite the qualities (glances down at breasts) we are looking for when we are really busy. Perhaps you should take one of our afternoon shifts and save up for some enhancements."

I think I was at your table when this happen but I can't be for sure.

...and no tearny's yet

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08-10-2010 , 04:34 PM
Is there a hotel attached to the casino? Or one within walking distance. I am thinking of coming up for new years to catch the winter classic and wouldn't mind hitting the casino while I'm there. Also how far is it from the stadium?
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