Also, being there during a holiday is not a good example of what the room looks like on a day to day basis.

How did the Presidents' Day mini-series go?

I didn't see the numbers and didn't play any events. I can comment that I witnessed arguably the worst ruling ever issued by a manager this weekend. So, that was fun.

Cliffs?

10/25 game. P1 bets 1800 on river, P2 says all in. P1 asks how much more, dealer pulls in both 1800s counts it down and doesn't see chips behind line, announces 2345 more. P2 and guy not in hand immediately say that's not right it's more. Dealer says "hold on" and begins counting remaining chips. P1 throws in 2 pumpkins and 4 blacks. P2 tables hand, P1 mucks. Dealer says it's actually 3445 additional. P1 Says he doesn't owe the extra thousand. Manager comes over and says he doesn't owe the 1k.

Took over 5 minutes.

Ehh, Not a horrible ruling IMO. The floor has been put into a no win situation by the dealer. A dealer just can not make a mistake to this gratitude with this much money on the line. If it was a single pumpkin chip that was obscured, that's one thing. But missing a stack of chips that equates to 1k is very poor of the dealer.

Floor managers tend to air on the side of not making people put additional money into the pot once a dealer has given out an incorrect number. Not saying that's right or wrong, but that's typically what happens.

That is bs

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I would agree that he owes the full amount under accepted action. Poker is a visual game and it is his responsibility to know, follow, and understand the action and P1 should have waited for the correct number given that there were immediate objections to the original amount declared by the dealer. That being said, I don't blame the floor that badly given that P2 tabled his hand when P1 clearly called the incorrect amount. P2 did not protect his hand and action by waiting until the action was clarified and P1 called the correct amount. If that's his argument I'm somewhat OK with it, but I still disagree.

So if he put in two red chips, still not a call? A single chip facing action is a call. The action is all in, P2 sees any amount go in and thinks it's a call.

Dangerous precedent set. I already informed all floors regardless of rule I will no longer show my hand at show down until entire pot is correct. And I will give no verbal communication either so I do not affect a call or fold. Any bet I make on river that is called with one chip will bring the game to a screeching halt.

Also. FWIW, every floor I've asked(from multiple rooms not just Rivers), have told me absolutely they are making him put in the extra 1k.

Horrible ruling and floor should have paid the extra out of room coffers if they're not willing to make the calling player pay up.

While I agree the ruling is bad assuming the above information is correct, I could not disagree more with everything else you just said. Most operators don't want you to know this, but operators cannot force a player to physically put chips into the pot. Hypothetical example: If player A goes all in and player B announces call, then B refuses to put the chips in the pot, the house can rule that B must call, but there is nothing the house can do to make the player physically put chips into the pot. The house will ban the player from the property and may call gaming but he will likely be free to leave with the money never to return. Poker is player against player and no funds in play belong to the house. In poker the house's responsibility is to deal the game in accordance with gaming regulations / internal controls and make decisions on games. The house will generally not reimburse players for any loss unless it was the result of a violation of regulations / controls / policies / procedures, negligence, or they are directed to do so by the gaming board as a resolution of a gaming complaint.

Cliffs: The house can't force anyone to physically put money into a pot and this is not a situation that warrants any sort of distribution to the player.

Just don’t flip any cards until all the chips are in middle, first get pot right and finish the action.

All the chips don't need to be in the middle. P2 committed his stack the moment he added a chip to the pot after P1's all-in bet.

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Why do people have to stay after 2 am ? The room is doing 100x better then the meadows, 10000x then mountaineer.

For sake of argument, say you had the option of running 8 games continuously 24/7 or 12 games 16 hours and be dark the other 8. The house take is the same but IMO the latter scenario is worse for the room. The Rivers has the market cornered. 90% of the pool isn't dealing with traffic to get to the Meadows an d back on a daily basis. I do not deal, but if I were a full time grave dealer I'd be upset losing most my hours when the room is dark. A chimp could run the Rivers Poker Room and not lose money, it's about a healthy poker eco system.

Good thing your not a dealer.

Your theories are pointless considering the room is busy.

No one cares about your theory of the room being busy 24/7.

Who plays poker from 2 am to 2 pm?

Grave dealers are the worst ones anyway's.

Healthy poker eco system? LOLZ what's that even mean. You really care about the dealers that much?

the grave dealers at the rivers are absolutely not the worst of the bunch.

How are the games recently, especially on Friday and Saturday nights? What are the bigger limits that get regular play?

Also, curious about this. More about game quality on the weekends at $1/$3 game and $2/$5 NL. I know the PLO is good but that's not my game. I am debating if it is worth my time to go down there and play.

Does anyone have the current buy in limits for the 1/3 and 2/5 game?