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Old 03-01-2018, 02:38 PM   #126
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Main -- www.rwcatskills.com
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Thanks for this. I have added it to the OP as a FAQ.

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Old 03-02-2018, 11:28 AM   #127
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Yes, Monticello/Sullivan Co. is a very depressed area. But Atlantic city is basically Detroit East and Borgata's poker room is a poker player's paradise, both for cash and tourney - high stakes and low - its usually packed. And people regularly make the drive from Brooklyn, NNJ, Long Island, CT, Westchester - a wide radius. My theory is that if the offerings and action develop over the opening weeks and months people will come--this room has potential and the distance is not a huge negative. They'd better set up a formidable regular tourney schedule when it starts in May. And not the weekday-only crap like Rivers Schenectady because they can only do tourneys when they have available tables in the poker room itself. They need to use the event space to run a serious schedule (ON WEEKENDS TOO) which means they are gonna need a solid group of dealers.

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Old 03-02-2018, 03:37 PM   #128
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AC is a sh*thole, yes. But it's literally in the middle of Philly, NYC and D.C. Plus there's a sizable population living outside AC. AC has other nice places to stay so you don't have to pay $400 on a weekday for a room. Ac has the beach and shopping and restaurants for the ladies and children. AC is a beach destination for many different states for 5 months a year. There's zero comparison between AC and Monticello
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:51 PM   #129
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AC is a sh*thole, yes. But it's literally in the middle of Philly, NYC and D.C. Plus there's a sizable population living outside AC. AC has other nice places to stay so you don't have to pay $400 on a weekday for a room. Ac has the beach and shopping and restaurants for the ladies and children. AC is a beach destination for many different states for 5 months a year. There's zero comparison between AC and Monticello
Do you understand that about 99% of visitors to RWC are coming from outside of Monticello? The casino is packed as it is, like sardines, rows of people waiting hours to play blackjack. If Monticello is such a "depressed area", why is the casino so busy???

Not only are there tons of people inquiring and asking "does anyone know when the poker room will be opening" on all of the RWC social media posts, when all the blackjack and craps tables are filled, where do you think everyone is going to spill over to? You're right - Poker!

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Old 03-02-2018, 06:33 PM   #130
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Do you understand that about 99% of visitors to RWC are coming from outside of Monticello? The casino is packed as it is, like sardines, rows of people waiting hours to play blackjack. If Monticello is such a "depressed area", why is the casino so busy???

Not only are there tons of people inquiring and asking "does anyone know when the poker room will be opening" on all of the RWC social media posts, when all the blackjack and craps tables are filled, where do you think everyone is going to spill over to? You're right - Poker!

Then that's great news. I pray I'm wrong.
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:38 PM   #131
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most likely the room will be very busy in the beginning and then the novelty will wear off

who wants to play PLO with no straddles when multiple games run every day in bigger poker rooms that are more or less equidistant from the city
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:15 AM   #132
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Yes, Monticello/Sullivan Co. is a very depressed area. But Atlantic city is basically Detroit East and Borgata's poker room is a poker player's paradise, both for cash and tourney - high stakes and low - its usually packed. And people regularly make the drive from Brooklyn, NNJ, Long Island, CT, Westchester - a wide radius. My theory is that if the offerings and action develop over the opening weeks and months people will come--this room has potential and the distance is not a huge negative. They'd better set up a formidable regular tourney schedule when it starts in May. And not the weekday-only crap like Rivers Schenectady because they can only do tourneys when they have available tables in the poker room itself. They need to use the event space to run a serious schedule (ON WEEKENDS TOO) which means they are gonna need a solid group of dealers.
if the borgata didn't give out free rooms like candy to poker players the room wouldn't be nearly as packed
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:17 AM   #133
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You'll be lucky to get 2-5 off during the week. The weekends should have at least a 2-5 game going. There's no base for anything higher during the week. It's going to be 2-3 tables of 1-2 if you're lucky.
i think you're right after the first few months unfortunately but early on they will get some bigger games.
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Old 03-03-2018, 11:38 AM   #134
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Barring any unforeseen setbacks and regulatory issues,
The Poker room will be open Monday March 5th at 10am.
Full available fact sheet to be posted here tomorrow.

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Hey Davey....just wanted to check in regarding any unforseen setbacks/ regulatory issues. I plan on coming early afternoon monday, and wanna make sure the rooms gonna be open before I take the drive.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:33 PM   #135
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if the borgata didn't give out free rooms like candy to poker players the room wouldn't be nearly as packed
This can be said about many card rooms. I am going to take a wait and see attitude. Can't buy the button and no straddling? Going to take a lot to make me choose this over Parx. Especially with a shorter drive.
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:06 PM   #136
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if the borgata didn't give out free rooms like candy to poker players the room wouldn't be nearly as packed
Free rooms are definitely a big piece of the puzzle if they are looking to lure New Yorkers away from Borgata and Foxwoods to play on a regular basis.
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:02 AM   #137
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Catskills resident here, speaking for a group of upstate players. Everything about this room sounds inviting, intelligently managed, very promising. But there's one rule that's a real bummer to us and we're struggling to understand its rationale. Maybe someone who gets it can explain why the otherwise flawless Davey would decree that...

"Players in the hand may not talk about the hand when heads up..."

Trying to gab an opponent into a fold or call after your turn-shove, and trying to gab a shover into a tell before you fold or call: aren't these two of the great joys of poker?
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Old 03-04-2018, 10:22 AM   #138
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Twin River has a similar rule. I'm sure there are others. In fact, at TR, you're not supposed to flip your cards over until the river card is flipped. Not sure how strictly these are enforced.
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:06 PM   #139
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Catskills resident here, speaking for a group of upstate players. Everything about this room sounds inviting, intelligently managed, very promising. But there's one rule that's a real bummer to us and we're struggling to understand its rationale. Maybe someone who gets it can explain why the otherwise flawless Davey would decree that...

"Players in the hand may not talk about the hand when heads up..."

Trying to gab an opponent into a fold or call after your turn-shove, and trying to gab a shover into a tell before you fold or call: aren't these two of the great joys of poker?
Only thing I can think of to why they have this rule is to combat players goading other players into calls. Where a good dealer will address and if not rectified call the floor. Or to address the Will Kassouf syndrome where a player overdoes it and also tries to goad people into calls or folds. Both things are better addressed by dealer and floor. I think talking should be allowed heads up.
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:53 PM   #140
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Catskills resident here, speaking for a group of upstate players. Everything about this room sounds inviting, intelligently managed, very promising. But there's one rule that's a real bummer to us and we're struggling to understand its rationale. Maybe someone who gets it can explain why the otherwise flawless Davey would decree that...

"Players in the hand may not talk about the hand when heads up..."

Trying to gab an opponent into a fold or call after your turn-shove, and trying to gab a shover into a tell before you fold or call: aren't these two of the great joys of poker?
to a point yes until 2 idiots think they're on espn and take 5 mins to play a hand on the river
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:56 PM   #141
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to a point yes until 2 idiots think they're on espn and take 5 mins to play a hand on the river
Easily rectified by saying "clock" so dealer hears you.
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:44 PM   #142
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Anyone wanna start a 5/10 NL tomorrow? I'll be there right at the opening.
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Old 03-04-2018, 09:26 PM   #143
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Hey Davey....just wanted to check in regarding any unforseen setbacks/ regulatory issues. I plan on coming early afternoon monday, and wanna make sure the rooms gonna be open before I take the drive.
We will be open tomorrow.

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Old 03-04-2018, 10:42 PM   #144
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Anyone wanna start a 5/10 NL tomorrow? I'll be there right at the opening.
I am definitely coming tomorrow, and definitely wanna play 5/10nl. I will not be there until 2:30pm however. I felt it might be hard to get this game running much earlier than that considering it's a monday. But..I'll be there by then, will play it short if need be, and will play until late.
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Old 03-04-2018, 10:43 PM   #145
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We will be open tomorrow.

Cheers!
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Great! Cya tomorrow!
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Old 03-04-2018, 10:44 PM   #146
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We will be open tomorrow.

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Old 03-04-2018, 10:57 PM   #147
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Easily rectified by saying "clock" so dealer hears you.
Exactly. And "goading players into a call" is a basic poker skill. So I'm still trying to understand the reason for outlawing all chatter between players heads-up, as opposed to the usual sensible limits on abusive language, taking too long, thinking you're on ESPN...
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Old 03-04-2018, 11:23 PM   #148
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Easily rectified by saying "clock" so dealer hears you.
oh i've taken quite a liking to calling clock in the last couple of years.still i don't like to affect someone in the hand who is doing nothing wrong

ie Player A bets, his opponent Player B who couldn't read a picture book, starts with the "what do you have?" "will you show if i fold"? routine.i don't want to affect the hand for Player A's benefit. when two of the player B type guys get in a hand together then it's a joy to call the clock.

Davey what will the buy in limits be for 5/10 nl or 2/5 (5/5?) and 5/10 plo be?

thanks
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Old 03-05-2018, 12:03 AM   #149
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oh i've taken quite a liking to calling clock in the last couple of years.still i don't like to affect someone in the hand who is doing nothing wrong

ie Player A bets, his opponent Player B who couldn't read a picture book, starts with the "what do you have?" "will you show if i fold"? routine.i don't want to affect the hand for Player A's benefit. when two of the player B type guys get in a hand together then it's a joy to call the clock.

Davey what will the buy in limits be for 5/10 nl or 2/5 (5/5?) and 5/10 plo be?

thanks
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POKER DIRECTOR: David Urie (daveygravy)

POKER ROOM PHONE NUMBER: not available yet
*** Poker room is currently NOT accepting call-ins for game wait lists, may be implemented after the opening.

19 TABLES

GAMES- Holdem, Omaha, and Stud Variants.

BUY-INS

1/2 NL: $60-$300
2/5 NL: $200-$800
5/10 NL: $500-$2500
10/25 NL: $2,000-$10,000
25/50 NL: $5,000 min (no max)


2/2 PLO: $100-$500
5/5 PLO: $500-$1,500
10/10 PLO: $1,000-$10,000


RAKE:

10% to $5 max with time rake exceptions below

$7 per half hour on 5/10 NL and higher, 10/10 PLO and higher, 20/40 Limit games and higher

No flop, no drop.

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Old 03-05-2018, 12:12 AM   #150
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I am definitely coming tomorrow, and definitely wanna play 5/10nl. I will not be there until 2:30pm however. I felt it might be hard to get this game running much earlier than that considering it's a monday. But..I'll be there by then, will play it short if need be, and will play until late.
Ok cool ill start the list early so hopefully we'll build it up to go by mid afternoon or something.
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