If it is $8 rake for 1/2, what is it for 3/5. At Oneida, it is $5 cap regardless. That just seems ridiculous. I thought Poto had a $4 max cap?

apparently the 1-2 is considered a special game. the 3-5 is still a standard $5 rake

this tournament is a complete and total joke....i highly suggest that no one plays it.....if you play 600 hrs you get in free...but the kicker is that the 500 buy in does not go into the prize pool at all.....the only money that actually goes into the prize pool is money that people buy in for....

so lets say 40 peopel get the 600hrs and get in free...that is 20k that is not in the prize pool.....

its a complete and total joke

What? $8.00 rake on 1/2 ? House obviously, doesn't want to spread the game, must be trying to kill it.

Yes they have hated the thought of this game prior to allowing it, which makes me wonder why they allow it. One dealer always told me that if they spread this game, ppl would be losing their paychecks. They could be correct, the fish would lose even faster, keeping them from having so many tables open. Plus, they get more rake from the fixed limit games. Ppl don't want to believe that because it is true (at a normal rake rate). Limit games get more hands/hour and they usually get to the cap on the rake.

I love how the locals just roll over to the house. lol $8 rake.

The house not covering the buyin on players that get in via the 'promotion' is a total joke.

This pretty much seals me not returning to poto unless the plo is running.

The 3/5 NLHE games at the Pot are still good as ever though. Yes, the other two issues regarding rake and the tourney are redonkulous though. It's the new managements way of doing things. Oh the other one I really like is players must request rake reductions now and it sometimes causes antimosity between players and dealers. Some dealers get tired of players constantly asking if we are on RR and some seem to get testy.

WTF!?! That is just unprofessional for the dealer. WTF should a dealer care for anyway. You guys get hourly plus tips right? Poto and that choppin for the $.50 and tip it to the dealer is ridiculous. (outside of 2/4 that is) But I see guys on the 4/8 give only $.50 tip on a regular, $100 pot and you call "chop"

What days is the PLO game running these days? Does it still get going Monday, Wednesday and Friday? With sometimes 2 tables on Friday?
Haven't made the trip in awhile but I am looking to soon.

Thanks.

Wow, I was really looking forward to grinding out some hours to get into that $500+50 tournament but if what you say is true then it is some horrible value. I wish they would bring back the 10k added tournament... that was by far the best deal I've seen in any midwest casino.

Also, I tried playing the 1/2 nl game for an hour or two even though my normal game is 3/5. Super nitty, super tight, small pots and big rakes. Not even worth it. The good thing, though, is it is mostly limit players... rarely anybody from the 3/5 nl game there.

As for PLO, I think it still gets off on Wednesdays and Fridays for sure. Jimmy deuces was there last weekend although I don't know how long he stayed. When I went back on Monday the PLO game was still going but he wasn't there.

There will be $15K house added to the August 500+50 tournament. Will that be enough to offset the amounts not added for players who get in for cheap? Only if fewer than 30 players freeroll (not likely). But it may close the gap a bit.

The 10 am tourneys have been slightly improved in structure -- instead of jumping from 200/400 directly to 500/1K, they now have 300/600, 400/800, and later 600/1200 and 800/1600, and now open to up to 100 players. Still a turbo, but maybe not a hyper-turbo anymore. And the 10% entry fee is one of the best around at these price points.

Anybody who complains about the 1/2 rake doesn't get it. They don't want to have 1/2. They want you to play limit or 3/5 NL. Don't come to Milwaukee wanting to play low-level NLHE. For that, go to the Dells.

Having rules like this one is the reason why all midwestern poker rooms suck. Most of the management and staff are total morons and the implementation of this rule proves it. none of the employees have spent enough time in well run rooms or playing to understand the fundamental logic that governs a smooth poker game. It's just a game and every room in the midwest tries so hard to make it much more complicated by doing things ass backwards.

Mitch,

This is not just a midwestern rule. I have played at casinos in both Vegas and L.A. that enforce the inner race track rule for betting. I don't think its bad either as a player can easily shoot angles by bringing forth heaps of chips and then taking some back.

If you want to nitpick about bad betting rules I have one from the Horseshoe Hammond. Any chips that come in front of your cards must be bet.

Example: I was contemplating how much to raise while shuffling some chips, just a tiny bit in front of my cards. I was told by the dealer that this was all I could bet, or else it would be a string raise. Now that is a ****ty rule!!!

the 15 k is only added if there are 300 or more players....like i said this tournament is a joke and there will be much more than 15 k missing from this prize pool.....the casino is basically banking all the extra rake they plan on generating from people trying to get the hours needed...

and one of the best dealers in the room was fired last week for not asking the floor for a rake reduction.....they are so worried about screwing over the players but they have the dealers sit there and wait for a floor to come over and confirm that in fact a rake reduction is needed.....

Not a single person was happy in that room when the old poker room manager was forced out.....now they bring in a complete moron who has no ruined one of the best card rooms in the midwest in less than a year

the promotions are total jokes, but the general pool of 2 4 and 36 players are not smart enough to realize they are getting bent over everytime they walk in that room.....

Which dealer and which manager were fired?

It goes off an on Monday and Wednesday; however, sometimes it is a 5-10 NL/PLO mix or just 5-10 NL.
Friday is by far the strongest game. For the last 7-10 days there has been some great action with the PLO playing as high as 10-20 or 10-25 (5k max). I even got to play some 10-20 PLO/30-60 LHE HU. The PLO action seems to revolve around whether or not Jimmy Deuce is there playing, despite my personal belief that he is one of the best PLO players in the room when not on tilt.

Don't know the dealer but the Manager he is talking about is named Joe Willi. I'm also not sure whether or not he got fired but he no longer works there.

I won't say who it is, but she has been there since day 1...

Joe willi basically got the "u have the option to retire or u are fired" ultimatum.....

Joe willi always stood up for the players and the staff.....the tribe is notorious for trying to screw as many people as possible and joe never let that happen in the poker room.....

as someone else mentioned the 10k added tourney was the best promo around.....the poker room use to get 100k a year in promotions....

now the promotions are terrible...especially this joke of a tourney that the new joe is trying to run....

I played at poto everyday for 4 years basically and i refuse to play there ever again as long as it is run the way it is....i would rather drive 5 hrs to canterbury then play another min in that room....

I don't know what female dealer you are referring to as one of the best dealers, But I do know that None of the best dealers are female!

Made me think of this:
Why couldn't Helen Keller Drive? Because she was a woman.

Just a joke folks so don't get all bent out of shape.

As far as the dealer who got fired, I was told there was much more to it then just not asking for a RR.

2 weeks ago the computer chip that allows them to broadcast their waiting list to one of the flat screens and it still hasn't been repaired.
When asked about it, one of the dealers gave a story about any repair parts for it have to be ordered through an approved vendor and blah blah blah. I mean, isn't it a pain for the desk people to constantly have to update people about their standing on the list? I saw at least one guy get irate yesterday b/c he thought they were seating people ahead of him from a list on which he, apparently, was 24th.
On another note, is Omaha a dying game at the Pot? The PLO broke up by 4 PM yesterday (a rainy Saturday, mind you) when a guy (not Jimmy Deuces) ran his only 2 opponents down to the felt. The 3/6 O8 broke up by 2 PM, though it get restarted at around 3:30 PM and was still running when I left at 10:30, though my departure left it 6-handed so no telling how much longer it went after that.

Well now that I know that the brilliant poker room manager reads this forum. I will make it my personal mission to make sure not a single person buys into the tournament. The tournament is stealing and all the regulars have caught on. The joke of a poker room manager might finally be gone and back to his shack in mississippi

Are you in some way insinuating that I am the poker room manager? I have no affiliation with Potawatomi and am just a regular player.

I know almost all the staff and your assumption that it was simply because of a RR is not very plausible. I asked some of the staff and am aware of who the dealer is and I like her very much. I am disappointed she will no longer be working in the poker room. From the information I gathered it was not the only reason in deciding to let her go.

Where do you get your facts? How do you know that Joe reads this forum? Sounds like you just have an axe to grind, IMO.