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07-11-2011 , 01:32 AM
Said they were at 90-95 sign-ups today. Looking good to fill up IMO.


Bubbled in the todays $120 but we had all agreed the 4 cashers would pay the bubble person $50 each so I made out with a small profit.
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07-11-2011 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tw2238
Does 20/40 limit Holdem or higher run with any regularity? If so could you guys include days with time they start.
Often 30-60 on Tuesdays starting at 4:30. Often 15-30 on Fridays starting around 5. Pm me and I can let you know about the status of the game on the day it happens.
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07-11-2011 , 10:32 AM
Who wants to got to Windsor Canada for the rest of the year to grind online? Its right across from Detroit so we can make easy trips back and forth.
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07-11-2011 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
They started up a $1-$2 PLO game with a $100-$300 buy-in tonight at about 7pm.
WOW. I was once told by the floor they wouldn't consider spreading such a game as people go broke too quickly, AND they didn't want to draw action away from the bigger PLO game.
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07-11-2011 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
Said they were at 90-95 sign-ups today. Looking good to fill up IMO.

Bubbled in the todays $120 but we had all agreed the 4 cashers would pay the bubble person $50 each so I made out with a small profit.
I need to get there ASAP!!

Also, when you pre-register do you pay the $30 optional add-on right there? Or is that paid the day of the tournament?

Last edited by reegz21; 07-11-2011 at 08:24 PM.
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07-12-2011 , 01:38 PM
I'm probably heading up there this afternoon/evening for the first time. Will more than likely play 3/5. Normally play in the homegames/casino nights around northern Illinois.

Hope to see you guys there!
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07-12-2011 , 01:50 PM
just looked at the structure for the tournament; what a drag.

typical Pot: great concept, poor execution.
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07-12-2011 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rexcharger
just looked at the structure for the tournament; what a drag.

typical Pot: great concept, poor execution.
Their normal tourneys start with 60bbs blinds increase every 20 mins. The big tourny you start with 125 bbs and 30 min rounds. Blinds stop doubling when antes come into play. It's a fine structure imo. Structures obviously matter but you should adjust your strategy to the structure, after black friday Im no longer allowed to be picky.
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07-12-2011 , 03:38 PM
what day is the tourney guys
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07-12-2011 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcpepper12
what day is the tourney guys
http://paysbig.com/gambling/poker/tournaments/
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07-12-2011 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by reegz21
I need to get there ASAP!!

Also, when you pre-register do you pay the $30 optional add-on right there? Or is that paid the day of the tournament?
????
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07-13-2011 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by THE_BEAVER
Often 30-60 on Tuesdays starting at 4:30. Often 15-30 on Fridays starting around 5. Pm me and I can let you know about the status of the game on the day it happens.
ty. will do when i come up there.
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07-13-2011 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FRGCardinal
WOW. I was once told by the floor they wouldn't consider spreading such a game as people go broke too quickly, AND they didn't want to draw action away from the bigger PLO game.
Me too, but that was when Joe W was running the room and said they would never run 1/2 NL either. In another year they will probably not limit 1/2 NL to two tables. They are a little thick headed there.
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07-13-2011 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrcheesehead
Me too, but that was when Joe W was running the room and said they would never run 1/2 NL either. In another year they will probably not limit 1/2 NL to two tables. They are a little thick headed there.
It seems like you have a conflict between a group of younger floormen who seem fairly competent (they may not be perfect but they're pretty good), who listen to suggestions and discuss ideas amongst themselves for improving the room, even accepting that they have to be mindful of the older regs crying over anything and everything, and a group of older floormen who kind of have some pre-set notions of "this is the way it's done here, period, because [some rationale that is based on appeasing the cries and whines of the older regs]".

Granted, that's pretty much how it goes at almost any workplace enviroment, so it's nothing new, but I've had some great conversations with a bunch of the younger floormen (the ones who take the night shift), but the morning shift seems to be run by middle-aged people who hate anyone under the age of 30.
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07-13-2011 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FlatTireSuited
It seems like you have a conflict between a group of younger floormen who seem fairly competent (they may not be perfect but they're pretty good), who listen to suggestions and discuss ideas amongst themselves for improving the room, even accepting that they have to be mindful of the older regs crying over anything and everything, and a group of older floormen who kind of have some pre-set notions of "this is the way it's done here, period, because [some rationale that is based on appeasing the cries and whines of the older regs]".

Granted, that's pretty much how it goes at almost any workplace enviroment, so it's nothing new, but I've had some great conversations with a bunch of the younger floormen (the ones who take the night shift), but the morning shift seems to be run by middle-aged people who hate anyone under the age of 30.
Not sure what you are really trying to say here with the older/younger floor generalizations and statements. The issue is the person running the room and the person he reports to. That's where the majority of policy is initiated and driven from. Even when they want to make a change for the better, it takes forever to get it changed and implemented. If it's a change for the worse, it gets done immediatly.
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07-13-2011 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadyJ1
Their normal tourneys start with 60bbs blinds increase every 20 mins. The big tourny you start with 125 bbs and 30 min rounds. Blinds stop doubling when antes come into play. It's a fine structure imo. Structures obviously matter but you should adjust your strategy to the structure, after black friday Im no longer allowed to be picky.
as they say:
you can frost a turd, but it still tastes like crap.

agreed that it's better than their usual structure, and that not having antes until the 1k-2k level is decent (and antes are relatively low compared to blinds), but for a decent buy-in size ($400) tournament with 17.5% juice*, I want 25-50, 75-150, and 150-300 levels.



*juice calculated in traditional ratio terms: 70 is 17.5% of 400.
some persons prefer percentage of total funds, ie 70 is 14.9% of 470.
/rake nittery
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07-13-2011 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mrcheesehead
Not sure what you are really trying to say here with the older/younger floor generalizations and statements. The issue is the person running the room and the person he reports to. That's where the majority of policy is initiated and driven from. Even when they want to make a change for the better, it takes forever to get it changed and implemented. If it's a change for the worse, it gets done immediatly.
Basically, what I'm saying is that the younger floormen aren't paticularly thick-headed, and if given the opportunity, could really improve the room.

But that there are other floormen who are quite stubborn in their ways, so yeah, change is always slow...
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07-13-2011 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FlatTireSuited
Basically, what I'm saying is that the younger floormen aren't paticularly thick-headed, and if given the opportunity, could really improve the room.

But that there are other floormen who are quite stubborn in their ways, so yeah, change is always slow...
I guess my only disagreement with you is that I don't see it as an age of the floor people issue. Lots of people of all ages could run that room better.
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07-13-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mrcheesehead
Lots of people of all ages could run that room better.
true since 04/26/04.
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07-13-2011 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mrcheesehead
I guess my only disagreement with you is that I don't see it as an age of the floor people issue. Lots of people of all ages could run that room better.
I guess it needs clarification:

The younger floormen are not quality floormen BECAUSE they are young - they are quality floormen b/c they're not thick-headed - they listen to ideas from everyone - from the life reg who has been in the room every day since the room opened, to a casual fish coming in on a saturday for a good time - and from every conservation I've had with them, they seem to really want to improve the overall room and are receptive to any ideas that could do that, as long as it still accomplishes the first and foremost goal of boosting the casino's bottom line, of course.

The older floormen (at least the ones I've encountered) are not subpar floormen because they are old, they are subpar because they are, as you say, thick-headed, and it seems to me they don't really care about changing up anything, but rather have sort of a "this is the way we do it" attitude.

I will say that, even though it's not always the case that old = stubborn, young = willing to change, it is often the case in corporate enviroments that the young employees are the ones who are trying to push for new things to improve the company while the old employees are the ones who will resist change. But yes, it doesn't neccessarily have to be that way.

I'm sure there are plenty of older floormen out there who could run a room well, and could run this room well. There are also plenty of young guys who would be awful.

My point was just that from what I've seen, the thick-headed floormen are the older guys - again, not because they're old, but rather because it's just the easiest way to seperate the floormen who I've spoken to into the two groups - thick headed, and not so thick headed.
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07-14-2011 , 01:35 AM
Played there for the first time yesterday. Had a great time, much better poker room then Grand Victoria's.

Played 1-2 when I arrived just to get my bearings, ended the night playing 3-5.

Will try to stop by a lot.
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07-14-2011 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rexcharger
as they say:
you can frost a turd, but it still tastes like crap.

agreed that it's better than their usual structure, and that not having antes until the 1k-2k level is decent (and antes are relatively low compared to blinds), but for a decent buy-in size ($400) tournament with 17.5% juice*, I want 25-50, 75-150, and 150-300 levels.



*juice calculated in traditional ratio terms: 70 is 17.5% of 400.
some persons prefer percentage of total funds, ie 70 is 14.9% of 470.
/rake nittery
Their adding 20k so technically its rake free plus money. If your not happy with a decent structure in a rake free tourny then what will you be happy with? I lol at everyone thinking they are good at playing deeper with slower structures, but online everyone loves the turbos. Seriously how can we complain when their adding money?
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07-14-2011 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrcheesehead
Me too, but that was when Joe W was running the room and said they would never run 1/2 NL either. In another year they will probably not limit 1/2 NL to two tables. They are a little thick headed there.
I miss Joe what a nice guy if anyone has an update on him please post, and old cranky Bob as well. Hes real cool once you get to know him.

Theres no comparison at all between how the room is run now compared to the old days. Its alot more player friendly now. I remember when we were playing 10/20 lhe waiting for them to open a 3/5nl and the floor told us that since he didnt want to break the 10/20 he was taking us off the top of the 3/5 list and putting us on the btm. We laughed and all left broke both games and played a home game.
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07-15-2011 , 12:49 PM
When I registered on 7-9, I was initially told that 80 players were registered, but when they pulled out the book to sign me up, I was number 56.

BradleyT was told 80-90 signed up by 7-11.

The $30 Optional Dealer Toke for the additional 5,000 in chips is available at the time of sign up only.

Do you think that should be taken into account when tipping after you cash. For instance, if would normally tip 3% on winnings. If you cashed for $3,000 and would tip $90, reduce it by the dealer tip you already paid?
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07-15-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadyJ1
Their adding 20k so technically its rake free plus money. If your not happy with a decent structure in a rake free tourny then what will you be happy with? I lol at everyone thinking they are good at playing deeper with slower structures
agreed, seems like a decent structure (for the location)+money added = swishhhhhhhhh!

shotty!
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