a) Yeah, in fact I saw one of said nitty regs, despite having about $1500 himself, complain when the guy came from the half/half game to the NL game with $1200 or so. Ridiculous.

b) I'd love the % rule. I don't even really see a downside, because the bigger the stack, the more likely you're getting to max rake (although given how loose people are pre-flop, pretty much every and was getting to max rake before the flop anyway). It's not unprecedented, Harrah's Joliet for example, allows it.

c) I'd never say anything if someone sits down with more than a max buy-in, but if a fish sits down with way more than a max, and someone starts to complain, I may try to elbow him to get him to STFU.

As for the general concept of bringing 2K to a fresh 3/5 game...yeah, I'm sure people would cry about it...I understand that donks and nits aren't smart enough to understand why it shouldn't matter what I can buy-in for. In their warped world, if I buy in for $2K, and they buy in for $400, I'm going to be able to bully them with my massive stack despite the fact that it's a cash game. It's annoying that their stupidity makes it so that a lot of places won't consider things like a % rule or deep stack buy-ins, but the flip side is that same stupidity shows up in other areas of their game, so oh well, it's just the way it is.

I will say, being used to a $500 buy-in, the extra $100 does come in handy, so the $600 buy-in is definitely nice. And if the games are anything like they were yesterday, it adds up quickly - that extra $100 in each rebuy puts a good amount of extra chips out there. Been a while since I've been at a game where you had 2 players with over $2K, two players around $1800, myself included, and everyone else with substantial amounts of chips except one short stack ninja...okay, short stack idiot who bought in for $200 and nit-folded until he felt he had the right spot to shove and pray...and if he lost, he rebought for $200. The entire rest of the table is playing with deep stacks and some of these guys are literally spewing chips and you're sitting their folding until you can shove pre with JJ+ or on the flop with TPTK+...great job, way to take advantage of the table.

Lastly, it was quite embarassing last night the number of times I threw out a $2 chip for the SB, forgetting it's 3/5 there. Dealers were having a field day with it, they knew I would do it each time so they were pretty much would anticipiate whenever it came around to my SB and I would again screw up to jokingly admonish me and correct me and laugh.

yea the stack rule is ridiculous. the place is full of bad nitty regs that grind 3/5. anyone from this forum in for starting 5/10 or higher NL games some time? don't seem to ever run when i go

3/5 against bad nitty regs and gambholic degens, or 5/10 against some 2p2 posters. Tough call.

Its actually an advantage to buy in for $200 when everyones deep. I wish it was at least a 200bb max, but it's the same as online. I think all games should have no max buy ins. If someones playing bigger games where theres no max they can always cover the fish, but in lower games you can't.

Not if you were playing the way this guy did.

Anyway, you and I and most people on the board know that there should be no max on a buy-in, but, the problem is that the nits and donks out there fail to understand the distinction between stack size play in tournaments and in cash games - so they think it's a gross advantage for someone to be able to buy in for way more than the rest of the table. So if there was no max at 1/2 or 3/5, some guy would buy in for $10,000 and the nits/donks would go beserk because they would think he's got the ability to bully them (and it becomes kind of self-fulfilling prophecy).

So therefore, we get buy-ins to keep the nits/donks happy, which is very, very important. It sucks that they're not smart enough to understand why this ain't a tournament, you can't "bully" with your stack, but the same inabilty to comprehend any thinking past what they see on ESPN's WSOP coverage serves my profit lines well in other areas, so you just gotta accept it.

+1
Not that I play NLHE voluntarily anyway!!

I actually was talking about this yesterday when I was faced with the option of either 3/5 half/half or 3/5 NL. I don't have that much experience with Omaha, but I have enough experience with it, and combined with my general ability to apply standard poker principles means that I'll happily play a half/half game if that's where the donks are playing.

I see you all the time trying to get HOSE/HORSE/some sort of mixed games or limit games going. You guarantee me that horri-donks will be playing as well, and I'd definitely consider joining. But if it's just 2p2ers looking for a break from NL, I'll pass.

LOL! I'll tell you, when I got the 5/10 HORSE going last October at the Shoe, I got pretty well-fileted that day! But it was fun meeting the 2p2ers anyway. I always smile at the regs that play the LO8 at the Pot. Those folks GOTTA see a flop with nearly AFC. But I do adore playing late as the table sometimes gets lively with drunken donks (can I get a witness, Bradley?) who don't always completely understand what makes the best low, or that bottom two pair is NOT a hand to 3-bet on a multi-way flop with a flush draw.

Having no max buy-in is real bad for the health of the games.

It was either Sklansky or Malmuth that said that the Wynn would decline as a poker room due to them not having a max buy-in in any of the games. Once it happened they adopted a cap.

The fish go broke way to quickly when there is no cap.

Forgive my lack of LO8 knowledge...what's AFC? Any ___ Cards? I assume you're not talking about the word that rhymes with truck

Any four cards

Any Four Cards... A variant of ATC (Any Two Cards) commonly used in the NLHE forums.

Well that makes sense. Wow do I feel stupid. I guess I'm too used to seeing AFC from football or I'm just dumb sometimes. LOL.

Also, I saw on the website that they offer the spread limit games. Now I know offering is a lot different from actually running the game even occassionally...has a spread limit game ever run? I have a couple friends who want to give casino poker the ol' sporting try and I told them to try low limit first, but I get the feeling they want to at least be able to be like "I bet the maximum", even if it's not a shove. If a $5-$25 spread limit game was running, I could definitely see telling them to give that a shot first before ventuing over to NL.

Well, being the somewhat intelligent guy I assume myself to be, I also assume that some of these 'gambholic degens' would join the 5/10 game..make sense? it's the same concept as starting tables online

you're def not getting a 5/10 running at least until people are back after the wsop is over. even after that, it prolly won't run until the fall. it will not be easy, and you'll have to be constantly asking people. you'll prolly need to collect phone numbers and get the players organized yourself.

also, most of the deeper pocketed fish are kinda into the HA game right now. it's the "new thing."

gotcha, thanks for the info. it's just hard for me to justify driving 45 mins for 3/5. time to move!

Everyone said that nl would kill the room then when that didnt happen they said having a smaller nl game would kill the limit games. Guess what its the only game in town. The only thing that would hurt the games in any way is competition. I actually think alot of the regs would bust quicker because everyone thinks there good playing deep, and most really arent. So some of the wealthier losing regs will always play deep. The great thing about poker is everyone thinks their good and playing deeper will benefit the very small% of actual good players.

Which way are you coming from? and how did FL go?

anyone going to the summer poker classic in Keshena on June 18th? If anyone has been there, will it normally fill to 154. 25 registered so far

http://menomineecasinoresort.com/get...c-(1).pdf.aspx

I will not be there, but the last one had to turn away people. Very good tournament. Easy as well. I can't believe how soft this particular tournament truly is. Like printing money.

fyi, you can also pre-register over the phone using a credit card

i come from mukwonago. florida went well enough. games are sick down there. ran bad at 10/25/50 so didn't do as well as I'd have liked but w/e

Yeah I was suprised at how bad the play was there but I was playing much smaller

Theres no max buy in at potawatomi 3/5 games?

600 max.