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Old 12-13-2010, 11:25 AM   #2326
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I've played with you guys when you've jacked it up like this and seen it work both ways. When everyone is limping you get a lot of dead money in the pot. But when you get a couple of aggressive players in the mix I'm not sure its such a good idea.

When guys are sitting short with $100-$200 it becomes a flipfest. Even heads up, with one pot raise preflop and you're looking at a $60 pot , against a guy with $60 behind who is never folding.

I've heard you say that your marks here are the NL1/2 players waiting for a seat. IMO, with your skill advantage you can get better spots against those players building post flop pots as opposed to flipping with marginal edges.

This is especially true since the guys you're marking are standing up and walking off with your money as soon as a NL seat opens.

Maybe it was a one off, but the last time we played I watched about $1200 of your money walk off that exact way.
The 1-2 NL players are nice to fill up the game, and hopefully intro them, and get them to keep playing, but I wouldn't call them marks, I'd really like to build the game so it runs 24/7 like NLHE.


Sometimes they hit and leave to play NL, but just as often a bunch of them sit and dump 2-500 and leave cursing to themselves. Hopefully either way more players will get into the game.

I like to gambol, pushing around stacks with marginal edges in a smal game is a fun way to blow off steam for me, and its a lot easier to get it in when there is 50 pf, than 12 obv. I don't play professionally, so I'm not there strictly to maximize my edge. I'm really just looking for an action game and lots of big pots. Generally there are 2-3 people that buy in for the max, 4-5 that buy in for 2-300, and a few min buy short stacker's. Most of the times a few hours into the game we get most of the table fairly deep stacked.

What I would really like is to get the 1-2 game going every night and start to build a regular 2-5 plo game, or even a half 2-5 plo half 5-10 NLHE game. Now that would be sweet.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:35 AM   #2327
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"If you could give every new player advice, what would it be?" Read a book, I recommend Super Systems 2. Tight aggressive is the only way to play


Really ari? tight aggresive is the only way to play? lol, I agree its a good strategy but its definitely not the only way to play. Im a loose aggressive player and my image when people see me at the table pays off in the long and even the short run.

Time to go to work, see u guys at 11am!
Well maybe not the only way
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:37 AM   #2328
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The 1-2 NL players are nice to fill up the game, and hopefully intro them, and get them to keep playing, but I wouldn't call them marks, I'd really like to build the game so it runs 24/7 like NLHE.


Sometimes they hit and leave to play NL, but just as often a bunch of them sit and dump 2-500 and leave cursing to themselves. Hopefully either way more players will get into the game.

I like to gambol, pushing around stacks with marginal edges in a smal game is a fun way to blow off steam for me, and its a lot easier to get it in when there is 50 pf, than 12 obv. I don't play professionally, so I'm not there strictly to maximize my edge. I'm really just looking for an action game and lots of big pots. Generally there are 2-3 people that buy in for the max, 4-5 that buy in for 2-300, and a few min buy short stacker's. Most of the times a few hours into the game we get most of the table fairly deep stacked.

What I would really like is to get the 1-2 game going every night and start to build a regular 2-5 plo game, or even a half 2-5 plo half 5-10 NLHE game. Now that would be sweet.
All good stuff. And I like the half/half idea.

See you there.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:45 AM   #2329
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:59 AM   #2330
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I finished 5th
How many runners? 10? (seriously, nice job)

As you probably figured out, I couldn't make it down. Next time!
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:03 PM   #2331
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Well maybe not the only way
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:37 PM   #2332
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How many runners? 10? (seriously, nice job)

As you probably figured out, I couldn't make it down. Next time!
102 players......I rivered broadway, player rivered aces full. We got all in on the river.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:49 PM   #2333
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I stopped in to the room on Saturday, from 1:30 till about 7:00. First time sober in a poker room (first time ever was drunk as a skunk dropped $10 at a table, realized I didnt know what in the world I was doing, and left, thank god).

I dont really have anything to compare it to so I hope this dosent sound one sided. Didnt win anything, just sat short stacked at $80 to see what it was like playing live. I will say I learned a lot, and that I need to be more aggressive when I play. It just seemed like I couldnt catch a hand to go my way except for staying in with AQo and catching KJTo on the flop to beat out AAA which was cool. Thats about all I had in 6 1/2 hours.

Liked the room alot, and I was good as the whole time I was at the 7 seat, and had skinny people to my left so there was plenty of room, and the $1.50 Draft special was a plus, but may have been my downfall

All in all, was a really cool experience, learned alot, and hope to become a frequent visitor of a fine establishment.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:59 PM   #2334
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102 players......I rivered broadway, player rivered aces full. We got all in on the river.
So, you've read my new book?

"Recognizing the Nuts and Betting Into Them"
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:01 PM   #2335
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What I would really like is to get the 1-2 game going every night and start to build a regular 2-5 plo game, or even a half 2-5 plo half 5-10 NLHE game. Now that would be sweet.
this would be great. anything to spark some interest in PLO would be good.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:25 PM   #2336
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I'll be there for PLO tonight.
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:55 PM   #2337
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Just wondering if there were any thoughts about the suggestions in my looong post. In short, (a) draw for button at start of game, (b) immediate move from must move game into open seat (unless just paid blinds in which case play button then move), (c) roll call before opening new games. Thoughts?


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Few suggestions for Ari (one not too important, two quite important):

The first issue is a small one. When games open up, dealers should quickly deal out the cards to determine button position. There is no reason for the button to always start in Seat 10. This could lead to some angle-shooting, although I admit that is very unlikely. Still, it only takes a few seconds to draw for the button and it just makes sense...why not?

The second issue is that the floor needs to be more proficient with running the must move games, if they will be running them at Parx. When a seat opens up at the main game and a player is told they have a seat, they should NOT be dealt another hand at the must move--unless they are just paying their blinds, in which case they can play their button. But that's it! We had an issue about this yesterday, when one guy wasn't moving over and continued to play as he was stacking his chips for 10 minutes or whatever. This is unacceptable. I understand there was an issue of being courteous to another player at the must move and keeping that game alive, but still--this should not be allowed. That's how a must move has to work. If the floor was really worried about the fact that the other player had just paid time and the game would break, perhaps the player could have been given credit for a free half later on?

(Also the floor's comment to the player was a real no-no: "You better get over there, they really want to take your money!" I'm not sure if this is what caused the player to sit at the main game and then immediately get up and leave, but still...please keep jokes like this to a minimum.)


Third thing: I really think roll-calls should be done before new games are opened. The exception would be when there is a huuuuge list like for a new 1/2 game. Even still, it would be good to roll-call the games (so you know the names you call are actually there). You just have them say on the PA: "This is only a roll-call..." and then they start calling names. To figure out who is there and really wants to play, by calling out names and looking around the room. Many times they open up a table before they are sure there is really interest for the game. For instance, last night there were 10 people or so on the 15/30 list, so they open up a must-move. I got up from my other full game to help get the 15/30 started. We sat there waiting for a long while, as only 3 people actually came to the table. Roll-call is a simple and effective solution, with no downside so far as I can see.


Other minor question: At about 6am or so we were still playing and asked for the FIRST time to have a free half, playing 4 handed, and we were quickly refused. Is it really true that free time can NEVER be given?

Hope I don't come off too complainy...just some suggestions for further improvement!
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:39 PM   #2338
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I'm in favor of drawing for the button, but it's such a small issue I don't care too much about it.

As for must moves, it should be the floor's discretion how much leeway to give a player (but the floor has to stay on top of it and not let the player dawdle).

Roll call is a good idea, but the desk staff have to be sure to turn and scan the room when calling names, which doesn't seem to happen as much. (Usually it is the great floors who note my name being called and come to ask me whether I want to switch games.)
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:45 PM   #2339
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Is anyone still having problems seeing comp money on Parx website? I can't see mine yet. I went to the poker desk a few weeks back and asked to have them put on card. The floor did it on their computer and said the money was there. Some one mentioned the poker room card is different from the main casino card. Could this be the problem?
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:50 PM   #2340
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agreed on drawing for button, but also agreed it's so minor that I don't really care too much about it.

must moves - at a minimum, you should be allowed to play the button before moving if you happen to be in the blinds. Also, if there is an open seat in the main game and a wait list on the board, then just stick the new player in the main game rather then wait for the must move player to move and then calling the new player to the must move game. What's the purpose of that? Must moves should only be a must move if there is no list, IMHO. I never understood why main game folks get so uptight when they play with an empty chair for 5 minutes...

I'm not a big fan of roll call because I'm willing to play shorthanded. If there are 10 people on the list and they roll call and 5 answer, then they won't start it. However, if they just try to start it without a roll call and 5 show up, then I'm more then happy to play with 5. With that being said, I wouldn't oppose a roll call, though.

btw, speaking of this - I went down Saturday, got there way too early @ 11:45am and put my name on $8-16 and $15-30 hoping one of them would start soon. Come 1:00 there were only 6 people on the list. I asked the floorman if he would call the games to try to get it started. I was happy to play either limit if 4 or more people showed up. I figured it would fill up once it got started. He said he wouldn't call it because other people won't play short handed. I asked how do you know if you don't try? He said he knows from prior experiences. (which, btw, we did play 4 handed 2 weeks ago to get it started...) Anyway, I got annoyed and decided to leave :-( Went to the Borgata instead. I had a good time at the B, but I really like $15-30 as a limit, which B doesn't offer. I later saw on the internet the game started around 2:00ish. If I had any patience, I could have made it another hour...
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:59 PM   #2341
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Is anyone still having problems seeing comp money on Parx website?
As of 10 days ago, the two systems were still separate, and the poker room had to manually move your comp money from their system to the main parx system before you could use it. Could be that it's been unified since then, but given your experience, probably not.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:11 PM   #2342
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Is anyone still having problems seeing comp money on Parx website? I can't see mine yet. I went to the poker desk a few weeks back and asked to have them put on card. The floor did it on their computer and said the money was there. Some one mentioned the poker room card is different from the main casino card. Could this be the problem?
I'm having the same problem. . .
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:17 PM   #2343
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The systems are not bound together yet (poker room, casino) so you are accruing them in the poker system but the main system can't see them yet. Hopefully soon.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:34 PM   #2344
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I'm running terribad at parx. Just went again yesterday and had another big losing session.

I think somone at parx has a voodoo hex on me the way the hands have been playing out (cooler after cooler after cooler)
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:37 PM   #2345
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Is there any chance some stud, stud h/l, or HOSE games will get spread post-expansion ?
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:56 PM   #2346
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Is there any chance some stud, stud h/l, or HOSE games will get spread post-expansion ?
Here's hoping yes. I know a number of players including myself who'd be interested in hose...so I would think so...although who knows how regularly.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:02 PM   #2347
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PLO roll call for tonight? Only 2 on list right now
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:05 PM   #2348
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8pm make it 3...if you have to start short you should
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:12 PM   #2349
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Rooms dead, several tables still...not a good sign
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:35 PM   #2350
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As of 10 days ago, the two systems were still separate, and the poker room had to manually move your comp money from their system to the main parx system before you could use it. Could be that it's been unified since then, but given your experience, probably not.
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The systems are not bound together yet (poker room, casino) so you are accruing them in the poker system but the main system can't see them yet. Hopefully soon.
Thank you gentlemen. That's pretty much what I was thinking. I have a feeling when they get it combined , my 3 RB sandwiches worth of comps are going to be expired. Oh well, no roast beef for me!!

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As of 7pm there was 18 tables spread. I would hardly call that "dead".

But what do I know , I'm just a caddie

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