Hahhaahahaha I'm so sorry, I really meant to teleport to a poker room within a few hour drive. If I could actually teleport somewhere, trust me, it wouldn't be a poker room - it'd have something with a beach and a lot of scantily clad women.

Sorry acdawg, forgot to post the link to where I moved the general discussion re cell phone use @ B&M poker tables:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...-table-424997/

Monaco and they also have gambling - just sayin'!

I hear the wait for games is a little quicker than here at Parx, too

Ari,

One big issue I see are the $500 chips. They are a similar size and color to much smaller denomination chips in use in the game.

They create a natural angle shoot for the regs. Many of them are keeping $500 chips "hidden in plain sight" amongst their green and blue chips, hoping to stack some unfortunate noob who thinks they are playing against a much shorter stack. One reg kept his as part of his "shuffle stack."

I saw this effect action twice yesterday.

In AC and other rooms around the country, any chip above $100 is easily distinguished both by size and bright unique colors.

If you can't change the chip due to law, I would STRONGLY recommend changing them out at 2/5NL and lower as a standard policy. There's no point having anything in play larger than $100 chips at that level.

The Live game Report is excellent! Straight from the Parx system!

(By the way, I saw a 20-40LHE game going Sunday night?.?) = off topic

It is suppose to work on all computers and phone operating systems Tuesday 30th.

It definitely works on IPhone 4 and Android operating system.

J

yeah, the 15-30 bumped up to a 20-40 at around 6:30pm last night, just for kicks. I'm not sure if it stayed running all night or not.

Im gonna be there today around noon, playing 4-8 and maybe some 8-16. Anyone else gonna be there in the same game?

So I went there for the first time on Sat. got there around 11am. Good timing as the crowd came in shortly after. I was sat right way. Played 1/2, Left up +300 after 6 hrs. Lot of fish at my table. Raises got called by 4-6 players. the guy on my left played every hand. I stacked him when he lost his J full to my A full. 5 smokers at my table, I did not smell smoke. Tables are small but managable. Actually the only thingI thought that was odd was the huge glass front doors not being automatic. Also once the room filled there were only 2 servers that I saw tending to the entire room. I just got my own drinks when I went to the bar for a smoke. As far as the 2$ chips, if they just removed the blue edge on the reds they would not be a problem. Saw some really bad plays and alot of chasing. I had to really tighten up my game. I got paid evertime I had it, and never lost a showdown..So all in all a very good time. I'll be back

I have seen this be a problem a few times, and not just at PARX... I would like to see a strictly-enforced rule about keeping the $500s in blatant plain sight. Like, don't even put it on top of your chip stack, leave it in front of your stacks on its own so that EVERY seat can see it without even trying to.

Keeping it in a shuffle stack is 100% intolerable, and even keeping purples at the bottom of a stack of blacks or at the top of other stacks really isn't ideal. I don't know what other rooms do about this, but I would like to at least see the worst offenders here taken aside and given a warning by the floor. Until then, we as players should berate them.

I hope this does not become a trend. I've been really enjoying the $15-30. I'm not a fan of $20-40. We should keep $15-30 for the following reasons:

1. The blind structure is better in $15-30 (which was discussed ad nauseam months ago in this thread)
2. Many $10-20 players are willing to step up to $15-30 because they view it as only a "little bit more" (even though it actually plays higher.) However, $20-40 is viewed as double $10-20 and scares them away.
3. $15-30 is a differentiator for Parx. People who want $20-40 can go to Borgata, Taj, or Foxwoods. I'm willing to squeeze into the micro-sized-tables they have at Parx for the $15-30. If it moves to $20-40, then I may as well go to the normal sized tables at Borgata.

Oh well, just my thoughts. I really hope they stick with $15-30. If you want to play higher, then start up a $30-60. $20-40 should not be played at Parx (IMHO).

It was just a lark. We were down to 6 handed, at least one more was leaving soon thereafter, the room was somewhere between a half and two-thirds full (and falling), and some of the action junkies wanted to bump it up. We also talked about bumping to 30-60 instead, but a few of us weren't real interested in that.

I agree with all your points about the 15-30 being a better game, overall, and it being a signature of the room. My guess is that, in the future, the higher game will go as 30-60 instead, once the timing is right (enough people around to want the higher game, and a free table).

A: Please apply the logic of "I was allowed to do it five years ago", and thus should be allowed to now, to any of the things people were "allowed to do" five, ten, a hundred years ago. This is not a valid argument in favor of anything.

B: Please describe in a logical manner what smoking has to do with poker, and how in fact it is "part of the game". Also describe how it was "part of" flying, eating, or being in any other public situation it is not allowed in now.

C: Instead of "don't go" people can make their opinions heard which is all they are doing.

D: I don't know where you were smoking while playing in AC five years or even eight as it wasn't in either of the two largest rooms (Taj / Borgata), of course this has nothing to do with whether or not it should be allowed now.

D: Be aware that a room that allows smoking this close is now the anomaly and not the norm and as such the topic is being addressed, if the room had opened non smoking it wouldn't have caused a single topic as it would have been in line with the standard.

Please save the bluster of "you are all a bunch of nancy boys today!" as it clearly has no purpose in any civil or purposeful discussion.

I would love to believe that this is the maxim for all manner of topics in your life. I am glad to hear that every single rule in the world is exactly as it should be and as such should not be discussed further.

I use valet at Borgata, its a very simple walk from the front to the poker room. To leave yourself open to attacks for no real reason other to save a few bucks just seems kinda pointless. Its not about risking losing money or a bankroll that you're carrying - its just more of a personal safety issue.

Lights or not, there's still plenty of places for anyone to be creeping in a sea of cars to ransack you before entering your vehicle... Especially if you are a known winner and leaving the facility late at night. That's just an innate quality of having just a parking lot to go back to when done gambling. Maybe I'm biased because I've been 100 feet away from a hijacking/murder in a parking lot before so it is certainly a reality.

Ari...

I am in the same boat. We all have different sensitivities to the smell of smoke in your poker room but I can't tolerate it either. Smoke is definately in the air and although we can not know for certain how much harm it's actually doing, it's just not worth the risk. Please make the room smoke free. Thank you.

Im headed up there right now, but dont have a phone with internet.... Was wondering what the lists look like for 4-8 and 8-16? Any help is greatly appreciated.

works on BB with o/s 6 (leaked version on bold)

Hello, I am a 5-10 + 25-50 nlhe reg just made my first trip to parx last nite and if they do things right I am strongly switching over to here from the borgata. With that said I have a couple suggestions I don't know if they were addressed in the thread because this is my first time on this thread and I'm on my mobile phone, if they were addressed and answered feel free to ignore them.

1. Keep 5-10 2k or make it 2500 max, make 10-25 UNCAPPED. ALSO make sure 10-25 is 100bb min, the best luxury of a uncapped game is no short stackers!!!
2. Allow eating at the tables.
3. WORK WITH A HOTEL TO OFFER POKER RATES!!!! **A MUST** (I'm paying 105 a nite to stay at Marriott for the week, the borgata I stay free ( I don't play in the pit, poker comps) so as of right now my future trips will remain to the borgata.)

These are the three most important issues to me and I feel I can speak for most hs regs in saying that if you address these issues you will be seeing us 20 days a month. I hope you take my suggestions very seriously, and Gl in your venture to be the greatest poker room in the east.

Poker room director: feel free to msg me if you are trying to set up a fixed date for a 10-25 or 25-50 nlhe game.

Hope to see you guys on the felt!

Question: Is there a non-smoking bar in/near the poker room?

I'm headed up to PARX for the first time this Saturday (Dec 4). Does PLO generally run most Saturdays?

Just get there early afternoon and make sure the list is started, once you get 8-9 people, ask them to call the game, convince everyone to play shorthanded if need be. The key is getting it started before all the tables fill up with 1/2 NLHE. Once you get it going it will run all night with people sitting while they wait for their seat in 1/2NL. I have family coming during the day on Saturday, but if you get it going I'll be there later!

Awesome...yeah I don't mind starting short handed at all. Once people see that game is a go with 4 or 5 people sitting, they will come play.

For me, 6-8 handed is ideal anyway.

Thanks for the heads up.

I've moved the smoking issue here...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...thread-928371/

...so that people don't have to clog up this thread with an issue that a lot of people feel strongly enough about to get emotional and re-post their opinions multiple times. Please feel free to do that over in the other thread.

I guess I am always on the alert for this angle when I play any sort of deep stacked 5/10NL game. When certain regulars *ahem* buy in for for their regular 4 stacks of greens, and then all of a sudden within one orbit 3-4 purps are magically on top of their stacks...

But Like I said I ALWAYS know how much anyone else has in their stack at anytime, within 5% without asking for a count. And if I'm involved in a pot that stacks are going in, I of course am going to be hyper vigilant and know exactly what the other amount is that I am playing...

Yeah, I'm with you and do the same. I think most regs at 5/10NL and higher are vigilant.

However, at 2/5NL, you just don't expect to see these big chips as frequently, and so I don't think the player pool down there is as savvy.

Like I mentioned, most other casinos protect their players by making large denomination chips noticeable in a few ways (larger size and brighter colors.) You definitely can't shuffle them in with a stack of greens, blues, etc. and expect no one to notice. At Parx, you can.