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Old 11-25-2010, 01:41 PM   #1826
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Re: PARX Poker Thread

Ari -

Can we simply get rid of the $2 dollar chips or make them a new color or just simply keep them out of the 2/5 games?

At the cage - they check your stacks for 2 dollar chips mixed in with the 5's. In a hand, a fella slides a whole red stack, it gets pushed in the pot - nobody is looking to make sure there arent any 2's mixed in if they simply measure stack height to stack height to determine if a called bet is correct etc.

Really, im surprised more people havent been complaining about it.

And how bout charging time at 2/5? =)
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:52 PM   #1827
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First time I've seen this ...dealer pitches card to seat 3,
it accidentally hits player 2 and is exposed. Dealer reaches to kill it and seat 3 refuses to give it up! Floor is called and rules player can keep the exposed card? Never saw this before ...table had a nice laugh when the guy won the hand lol
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:05 PM   #1828
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Ari -

Can we simply get rid of the $2 dollar chips or make them a new color or just simply keep them out of the 2/5 games?

At the cage - they check your stacks for 2 dollar chips mixed in with the 5's. In a hand, a fella slides a whole red stack, it gets pushed in the pot - nobody is looking to make sure there arent any 2's mixed in if they simply measure stack height to stack height to determine if a called bet is correct etc.

Really, im surprised more people havent been complaining about it.

And how bout charging time at 2/5? =)
Sadly, chip color is another one of those things that the PGC has its hands in. The color blends between the $2 and $5 is not good, however. But, with the investment that has been already made in producing them, it probably means that they are not going to get replaced any time soon.

The confusion in play could be somewhat alleviated by insisting that specific chips play in the games (as mentioned before):

4-8 games: All $1 chips.
8-16 games: All $2 chips.
15-30 games: $5 $25 & $100.
1-2 games: $1, $5, $25 & $100.
2-5 games: $1, $5, $25 & $100.
Cash plays in all games - $100's only, play behind only.
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:23 PM   #1829
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Re: PARX Poker Thread

Why not use the $2 for 4/8?

Other than, zomg action looking pots.

If we are trying to convince them to cut down on the usage I think moving the 4/8 off them is too much as it will leave them in use for one game.

God imagine that 4/8 Omaha game with whites o.0 they already can barely contain the blue chips in the center.

But I agree that the only real use for them are the 4/8 and 8/16 limit games.
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:03 PM   #1830
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I guess you could keep the $2 chips at 4-8. I just keep thinking about those Bellagio 4-8 games, with all the $1 chips

Or, shudder the thought... get a 6-12 going, with the $2 chips and a 2chip/3chip blind structure. That may be too much and might stifle the 8-16, though.

But, the $2 chips should definitely be out of all the NL games (says the guy who almost never plays NL).
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:16 PM   #1831
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I don't mind the $2 chips, not hard at all to differentiate them from the $5 chips. And can you please switch the 5-10NL game to rake. The time charge is too high, hands are taking tooo long and the game isnt healthy because of it.
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:39 PM   #1832
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$2 chips are fine at 4/8. Especially in O8 with the kill. In my experience, you really don't need any more chip on thetable to encourgage rudiculously loose action at that limit. But please remove the $2 chips from the NL games entirely.

I have not yet played in the 5/10 NL game (will probably wait until expansion to see if they can get multiple tables going), but the idea of changing that to a raked game is ridiculous.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:29 PM   #1833
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Or, shudder the thought... get a 6-12 going, with the $2 chips and a 2chip/3chip blind structure. That may be too much and might stifle the 8-16, though.
Aye that would be bad I think, the spread now is right on point.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:39 PM   #1834
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There will be exactly 24 tables running during thanksgiving dinner.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:09 PM   #1835
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What's the action look like currently? Interested in lhe games in particular.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:22 PM   #1836
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There is exactly 5 Tables running during Thanksgiving dinner.
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True. 5 running when I left tilting big time at 4:30

Although now, at 8:30 I would expect it to be a little busier w/ turkey stuffed tummies.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:29 AM   #1837
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Aye that would be bad I think, the spread now is right on point.
Yep - agreed.

Wonder if there would be any interest in a 4-8 HE kill or, 1/2 kill? It could be a separate game, keeping the current 4-8 HE.

It would be great to be able to punish the chasers, who would most likely love the "extra gamble", but who would have no clue how to play that game profitably.

Is that too greedy??
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:56 AM   #1838
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Would any1 here be interested in getting a 1-5 non-whitehair stud game going ever? I know it's low but I kind of like it.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:25 AM   #1839
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Yes for Stud love to play any Sat.Like 1-5 or 3-6.
No low limit stud to be found on the strip in LV in over 2/3 years.
Any idiot can play low limit hold-em.Stud takes much more skill as does O8.
Stand-by for the stud haters.Not to mention the moneyed class that don't like as poor folk with smaller bank rolls.
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:38 AM   #1840
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Cash plays in all games - $100's only, play behind only.
From my experience cash in play at nl is a bad idea. It makes it too difficult to see how large your opponents stack is and inevitably leads to problems.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:09 AM   #1841
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Yes for Stud love to play any Sat.Like 1-5 or 3-6.
No low limit stud to be found on the strip in LV in over 2/3 years.
Any idiot can play low limit hold-em.Stud takes much more skill as does O8.
Stand-by for the stud haters.Not to mention the moneyed class that don't like as poor folk with smaller bank rolls.
Any idiot can play low limit anything. Nice try though. Rationalizing this way to make yourself feel better is fine, but at least be factual. Its nobodies fault but your own that you cant play holdem. I would love to hear your proof as to why stud or O8 takes more skill. That would make my day.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:33 AM   #1842
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Would any1 here be interested in getting a 1-5 non-whitehair stud game going ever? I know it's low but I kind of like it.
I'm up for stud, but not 1-5. Parx hasn't even been spreading 2/4 LHE, although that may change after the expansion.

Parx should maybe try 2-10 (no ante, $2 BI) as a low limit stud game.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:09 PM   #1843
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Anyone that wants to play PLO today there is 6 on the list now so come on down and let's get it going!
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:11 PM   #1844
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From my experience cash in play at nl is a bad idea. It makes it too difficult to see how large your opponents stack is and inevitably leads to problems.
I agree but by "play behind only", I assume he is only suggesting that cash plays while you are waiting for the chip runner to come give you chips.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:31 PM   #1845
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Parx hasn't even been spreading 2/4 LHE, although that may change after the expansion.
This will not be happening. It not being spread has nothing to do with lack of tables.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:39 PM   #1846
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I agree but by "play behind only", I assume he is only suggesting that cash plays while you are waiting for the chip runner to come give you chips.
That's exactly right. In order for cash to play, you need to call for chips and declare the amount that you are "behind".

If you have a stack of 5 $100's and you do nothing, then run out of chips - you're all-in. Same scenario, but before the hand is dealt, you declare $200 behind and call for chips - then your stack is whatever chips you have + the $200 that you are waiting for. The other $300 is NOT in play.

Pretty standard.

Some places allow the cash to play as if it were chips, however, at Parx, there are no drop slots for bills and they do not permit dealers to exchange cash for chips (an excellent policy, IMO). I also believe that it is a state regulation that all gaming wagers be made and paid in chips. So, cash cannot "play".
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:00 PM   #1847
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Stand-by for the stud haters.Not to mention the moneyed class that don't like as poor folk with smaller bank rolls.
LOL..I've found that on these poker forums. Thing is, I'm a caddie. On a regular basis I walk with sports stars, politicians , and even billionaires that run this country. I am carrying the golf bags of people that can buy the highest earning poker pro 100+ times over. These people own boats (when I say boats , I mean 100ft+ floating mansions) top pros couldn't afford. I laugh at pretentious poker players really.

The funny thing is, most of these accomplished businessmen have a surprisingly better attitude and character make up than our "I'm better than you cause I play 20/40 on the regular, but really have nothing substantial to show for it because I'm always teetering on broke" poker players. Not saying all higher limit players are that way, but more than likely the person that is boasting in this manner is. Never bothers me, again, I carry the golf bags of people that are much more impressive in life. Couple lessons to learn from this:

1) Money just enhances ones character (if your a dic before you came into money, your going to be a bigger dic when you have it, and vice versa).

2) Never judge a book by its cover (Most live players make their money elsewhere and venture to a table to donk the never ending BR from their business or job.Giving the impression that they are actually good players.. never having actually earned what they play through grinding poker.)

3) There's always going to be a douche that thinks he/she is better than you because they have more money ( biproduct of low self esteem)

4) There's always gonna be someone that has waaaay more money than you (why be that dic?)

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Parx should maybe try 2-10 (no ante, $2 BI) as a low limit stud game.
I like this idea.2-10 maybe w/ a $3-$5/hr time charge. This would be a game to use only blues as well. Along w/ 2-4 (if they ever get that up) and 4-8. I would think this would be a good reason to spread the 2-4 when expansion comes. From a business perspective you now would have 4-5 games (20 tables at least) using most all of the blue chips the poker room has in stock. Freeing the ability to take blues off the nl games and 8/16+ games.

I don't think blues should be on 8/16. It looks great when a mountain of blues are pushed to you and your barely visible behind your stack, but given the table size and seat spacing green felt is a precious commodity. Having to try and fit through the 2 mountains of chips on either side of you constantly to fold a hand w/ out making a mess would be a pain in the azz IMO.

Giving the dealer a break from having to push a 2ft by 2ft 10 pound mountain of chips (spreading across 2 players) regularly would be nice for them as well imo. Not to mention saving 5-15 seconds of wasted time negotiating the pay off (for all the "keep the cards in the air" folks).Split pots...wow.

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Old 11-26-2010, 02:25 PM   #1849
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Game is 9 handed no list but with 40 + on the 12 nlhe list it will definitely keep going
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