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Originally Posted by agent87
Ari has said a number of times he plans to make it Vegas-esque.
Which is why it will most likely become a very successful room. I hope that thought process becomes (and stays) reality!
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At the Bellagio, $30-60 is played with $10 chips and the blinds are $20/$30. I suspect it will be the same at Parx.
Only if and when Parx submits a request for and the PA gaming commission approves, the $10 chip. It's not in play here.
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For anyone unaware of why 2/3 SB is used, here's a little background - In low stakes games, you often have 6-8 people limping in a pot. Even 1/3 SB, like they often have in a $3-$6 game, doesn't discourage those players from limping in. (Let's face it - at low stakes, people will limp UTG with just 2 napkins in their hand...)
However, as you get to middle stakes, games often tighten up and become tight-aggressive, which can be less fun to play. The 2/3 SB encourages people to play more hands out of the SB. Generally it's correct to fold most SB hands at 1/2 SB, but at 2/3 SB, many more become playable. This has a snowball effect of making players in other positions play more hands as well. If both the SB and BB have odds to call, that gives players in other positions the odds to call with weaker hands too since they are expecting the blinds to be in. All of this makes the game looser then it would be otherwise.
My opinion is that $15-30 and $30-60 at Bellagio are much looser than $10-$20 and $20-40 at Borgata and my limited Foxwoods experience (although $20-40 is usually ridiculously aggressive compared to the other stakes I've played for some reason...) of course, this is very table dependant, and also may just be that Bellagio players are more likely to be on vacation trying to have a good time, while Borgata and Foxwoods are more likely to be locals.
Very astute observation and understanding of how and why the 2/3 chip blind structure is good for the game. Once caveat... they don't do this at 3-6, because they don't need to stimulate action in those games
I had been trying to get the Borgata to dump the rock-garden 10-20 for years and create a 15-30 game. They claim that there is no interest, which I find silly. I think it has a lot to do with the local, wanna-be "pro's" who frequent the 20-40 game. Many of them pissed & moaned about it. It's an ego thing. Higher limit = better game... well, sorry not. Sometimes the best game in the house is not always at the highest limit.
Anyway, if Ari can structure the 4/8, 8/16, 15/30 and 30/60 limit games - I think he will have great success and as players - so will we. these limits inspire action. Lot's of chips splashing.
The Bellagio 15/30 game is perhaps the best limit game on the planet and the 30-60 there can be even better, with the right lineup. Here's hoping we get a little bit of that in the Parx room here!