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Old 10-29-2010, 10:21 AM   #751
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I am curious why there isn't much hype around this opening. I pass billboards every day for Parx talking about table games or dice, but I haven't seen anything about the poker opening. Nor is it on the web site. Nor do I find it when doing a simple web search for parx and poker. It would be nice to have more than just a dedicated two plus two crowd there

Just curious.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:31 AM   #752
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My guess is they don't want to advertise for it until it is officially approved by the PGCB. If for some reason it doesn't get approved or there's a last minute snafu with opening the room, they look pretty bad. I'm sure they'll spread the word once the room is up and running.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:32 AM   #753
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I am curious why there isn't much hype around this opening. I pass billboards every day for Parx talking about table games or dice, but I haven't seen anything about the poker opening. Nor is it on the web site. Nor do I find it when doing a simple web search for parx and poker. It would be nice to have more than just a dedicated two plus two crowd there

Just curious.
If I ad to guess, I'd assume they'll wait until they do the expansion before the end of the year before they advertise more heavily. If the room will be packed every day, there's not much point in advertising it. They also might combine their advertising plans with the rest of the casino, and if the date of the opening was previously uncertain, they might not have the lead time necessary to properly advertise it.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:48 AM   #754
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Another advantage, at least as I see it, is that by not advertising they might not get the huge crowds (at least not on the first few days) that plagued places like Delaware Park and Harrah's Chester.

This gives everyone a chance to work out the inevitable kinks in the system, as well as cutting down on mile-long wait lists. Which avoids frustration.

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Old 10-29-2010, 12:25 PM   #755
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I think a soft no frills opening makes sense.That way the date remains flexible and as Lee said lets them work out the kinks.

Lee did you once manage a cardroom?
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:20 PM   #756
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i know its prolly gonna be packed wednesday night but im hoping to start a $1/2 plo game around 8pm. interested? let me know.
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Old 10-29-2010, 06:13 PM   #757
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Yes I said "opening Thursday" because I'm not sure I can play on the 3rd...but I should definitely be there on the 4th looking to play....

Who am I kidding, I'll probably be there on the 3rd too.
i'll be there
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Old 10-29-2010, 06:16 PM   #758
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Thanks very much for the report. I think I asked about this earlier, but I'm not sure there's been a reply. You mentioned the 2/3 blind structure. I'm wondering about 30/60. Are there plans to have a $10 chip made for 30/60, with blinds then at $20/$30? I think this would be much better than using a combination of greens and reds--3 chip/6 chip beats 2 chip/4 chip any day.

Any plans, or is the idea just to wait and see how popular 30/60 will be first?
LOL, 30/60 I imagine will have blinds of 15/30. the reason the 15/30 game has a 2/3 structure is because not many, if any casino makes $7.50 chips and I doubt the 15/30 game would be played with $2.50 chips.
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Old 10-29-2010, 06:19 PM   #759
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I think $10 chips are pretty standard in a 30-60 lhe game. I think every casino carrys $10 chips therefore should not be any different at parx. I cant imagine them running a mid-high limit LHE game using quarters and nickels ("Red chips hurt my eyes!!" -The Great Joe Moon)
They can't use $10 dollar chips. The 30/60 game normally isn't a 2/3 structured game. Parx of course can do what they want. I personally would love to see the 30/60 game as a 2/3 type game but I doubt it will happen. Can't wait to play vs. you experienced mid-stakes sharks.
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Old 10-29-2010, 06:29 PM   #760
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They can't use $10 dollar chips. The 30/60 game normally isn't a 2/3 structured game. Parx of course can do what they want. I personally would love to see the 30/60 game as a 2/3 type game but I doubt it will happen. Can't wait to play vs. you experienced mid-stakes sharks.
When I've played 30/60 before we used a green/red combo and the blinds were 15/30. But I don't see why they CAN'T use $10 chips, and I think that would be an improvement. I don't care as much about having the 2/3 blind structure (although I think it would be good for the game), but having more physical chips in general in the middle is a real plus.

I'm excited too...hopefully we can actually get these games going!
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:19 PM   #761
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Ari has said a number of times he plans to make it Vegas-esque.

At the Bellagio, $30-60 is played with $10 chips and the blinds are $20/$30. I suspect it will be the same at Parx.

For anyone unaware of why 2/3 SB is used, here's a little background - In low stakes games, you often have 6-8 people limping in a pot. Even 1/3 SB, like they often have in a $3-$6 game, doesn't discourage those players from limping in. (Let's face it - at low stakes, people will limp UTG with just 2 napkins in their hand...)

However, as you get to middle stakes, games often tighten up and become tight-aggressive, which can be less fun to play. The 2/3 SB encourages people to play more hands out of the SB. Generally it's correct to fold most SB hands at 1/2 SB, but at 2/3 SB, many more become playable. This has a snowball effect of making players in other positions play more hands as well. If both the SB and BB have odds to call, that gives players in other positions the odds to call with weaker hands too since they are expecting the blinds to be in. All of this makes the game looser then it would be otherwise.

My opinion is that $15-30 and $30-60 at Bellagio are much looser than $10-$20 and $20-40 at Borgata and my limited Foxwoods experience (although $20-40 is usually ridiculously aggressive compared to the other stakes I've played for some reason...) of course, this is very table dependant, and also may just be that Bellagio players are more likely to be on vacation trying to have a good time, while Borgata and Foxwoods are more likely to be locals.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:04 PM   #762
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Ari has said a number of times he plans to make it Vegas-esque.

At the Bellagio, $30-60 is played with $10 chips and the blinds are $20/$30. I suspect it will be the same at Parx.

For anyone unaware of why 2/3 SB is used, here's a little background - In low stakes games, you often have 6-8 people limping in a pot. Even 1/3 SB, like they often have in a $3-$6 game, doesn't discourage those players from limping in. (Let's face it - at low stakes, people will limp UTG with just 2 napkins in their hand...)

However, as you get to middle stakes, games often tighten up and become tight-aggressive, which can be less fun to play. The 2/3 SB encourages people to play more hands out of the SB. Generally it's correct to fold most SB hands at 1/2 SB, but at 2/3 SB, many more become playable. This has a snowball effect of making players in other positions play more hands as well. If both the SB and BB have odds to call, that gives players in other positions the odds to call with weaker hands too since they are expecting the blinds to be in. All of this makes the game looser then it would be otherwise.

My opinion is that $15-30 and $30-60 at Bellagio are much looser than $10-$20 and $20-40 at Borgata and my limited Foxwoods experience (although $20-40 is usually ridiculously aggressive compared to the other stakes I've played for some reason...) of course, this is very table dependant, and also may just be that Bellagio players are more likely to be on vacation trying to have a good time, while Borgata and Foxwoods are more likely to be locals.
Thats interesting about the 2/3 structure. Well then I hope we can get that game going this Wednesday.
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:28 AM   #763
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A little blurb, looks like the word will be out on more than 2+2.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...rt-poker-room/
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:33 AM   #764
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I think a soft no frills opening makes sense.That way the date remains flexible and as Lee said lets them work out the kinks.

Lee did you once manage a cardroom?
I've never even had a job in a cardroom, let alone managed one.

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Old 10-30-2010, 01:15 AM   #765
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Thats interesting about the 2/3 structure. Well then I hope we can get that game going this Wednesday.
We do not have $10 chips to start, they are not an approved chip in PA. The game will have to play with red and green chips, but the blinds will be 20/30.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:33 AM   #766
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Ari has said a number of times he plans to make it Vegas-esque.
Which is why it will most likely become a very successful room. I hope that thought process becomes (and stays) reality!

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At the Bellagio, $30-60 is played with $10 chips and the blinds are $20/$30. I suspect it will be the same at Parx.
Only if and when Parx submits a request for and the PA gaming commission approves, the $10 chip. It's not in play here.

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For anyone unaware of why 2/3 SB is used, here's a little background - In low stakes games, you often have 6-8 people limping in a pot. Even 1/3 SB, like they often have in a $3-$6 game, doesn't discourage those players from limping in. (Let's face it - at low stakes, people will limp UTG with just 2 napkins in their hand...)

However, as you get to middle stakes, games often tighten up and become tight-aggressive, which can be less fun to play. The 2/3 SB encourages people to play more hands out of the SB. Generally it's correct to fold most SB hands at 1/2 SB, but at 2/3 SB, many more become playable. This has a snowball effect of making players in other positions play more hands as well. If both the SB and BB have odds to call, that gives players in other positions the odds to call with weaker hands too since they are expecting the blinds to be in. All of this makes the game looser then it would be otherwise.

My opinion is that $15-30 and $30-60 at Bellagio are much looser than $10-$20 and $20-40 at Borgata and my limited Foxwoods experience (although $20-40 is usually ridiculously aggressive compared to the other stakes I've played for some reason...) of course, this is very table dependant, and also may just be that Bellagio players are more likely to be on vacation trying to have a good time, while Borgata and Foxwoods are more likely to be locals.
Very astute observation and understanding of how and why the 2/3 chip blind structure is good for the game. Once caveat... they don't do this at 3-6, because they don't need to stimulate action in those games

I had been trying to get the Borgata to dump the rock-garden 10-20 for years and create a 15-30 game. They claim that there is no interest, which I find silly. I think it has a lot to do with the local, wanna-be "pro's" who frequent the 20-40 game. Many of them pissed & moaned about it. It's an ego thing. Higher limit = better game... well, sorry not. Sometimes the best game in the house is not always at the highest limit.

Anyway, if Ari can structure the 4/8, 8/16, 15/30 and 30/60 limit games - I think he will have great success and as players - so will we. these limits inspire action. Lot's of chips splashing.

The Bellagio 15/30 game is perhaps the best limit game on the planet and the 30-60 there can be even better, with the right lineup. Here's hoping we get a little bit of that in the Parx room here!
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:31 PM   #767
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Looks like there's finally some mention of the poker room on PARX's website:

http://www.parxcasino.com/#/gaming/poker/

I assume the asterisk on Nov 3 is pending the gaming board approval.

What sort of special stuff will be happening on the "grand opening celebration" on Nov 5?
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:03 PM   #768
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What's the parking situation like? Valet, close self park like the surface at the Borgata or will I have to pack life sustaining supplies for the arduous walk from the parking lot to the card room?
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:05 PM   #769
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I will be there 3-5 times a week looking for LHE 15/30 and up so without any doubt I will do my best to keep all games going. I am willing to play heads-up also if anyone might be interested.
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:09 PM   #770
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What's the parking situation like? Valet, close self park like the surface at the Borgata or will I have to pack life sustaining supplies for the arduous walk from the parking lot to the card room?
I would say it is a good deal closer than surface lot.
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:12 PM   #771
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What's the parking situation like? Valet, close self park like the surface at the Borgata or will I have to pack life sustaining supplies for the arduous walk from the parking lot to the card room?
Parking is pretty easy. I added some labels in red for you on this map to give you an idea of how much parking they have (tons):

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Old 10-30-2010, 03:26 PM   #772
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20 tables. Sounds like all 1-2, 2-5 NL.
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:33 PM   #773
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20 tables. Sounds like all 1-2, 2-5 NL.
Sounds like someone hasn't been reading the thread.
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Old 10-30-2010, 08:43 PM   #774
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Stop reading now, if you don't want to hear a bad beat story...

I just got confirmed for travel Mon/Tue/Wed. next week. I have been waiting... forever... for this place to open and now this?!?!?!?!

<sigh>

Looks like Friday. Hopefully, by then, you all will have had your fill and there will be some money left for me.
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Old 10-31-2010, 01:17 AM   #775
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Sounds like someone hasn't been reading the thread.
from the reports of other casinos around the area it seems like 1/2nl is the most common game, for instance on delaware parks current games report 13 tables of 1/2 nl. with only 20 tables at parx why do you think the majority if not all won't be 1/2nl?

are mostly all the 1/2nl games 9 handed? does 2-5 or 5-10 usually play short handed? and is plo played 6 handed or 9 handed?
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