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Old 06-19-2012, 04:42 PM   #7451
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Kill the hand. Screw them if they are taking that long first to act. As if it isn't bad enough then the floor is called for the clock, then that player has the audacity to let the clock run to zero. If that douche wants to act like he isn't even there by not listening to anyone then treat him like he isn't actually there and just take his cards away as if he walked over to the bar in the middle of the hand. It doesn't take much to check, he obviously did it intentionally and deserves what he got.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:26 PM   #7452
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Is it available to buy chips for cash games using my credit card?
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:03 PM   #7453
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

It is not just professional players'/grinders opportunity cost of time. Doctors, lawyers and other recreational players choose to spend hours of their limited free time as well as finite lifespan playing cards. They have full expectation that poker room will move the games along, so that they get some play.

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Finally, the loss of opportunity cost of time in this situation is far less than the size of the pot. If we're considering the financial effects, then I'm giving much more weight to the many chips in the middle of the table than the "loss" of a chip on the edge of the table.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:19 PM   #7454
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Is it available to buy chips for cash games using my credit card?
Definitely not at the poker cage which is cash only. Conceivably you might be able to get a cash advance or some such at one of the customer service or cashier windows in the main building, but that's not a very financially sound idea. There are ATMs in the room, though.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:30 PM   #7455
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Parx does not have a time rake. That player would hardly be wasting your money.
they are still drastically reducing the amount if hands being played given an allotted amount if time. Given the choice being a good player wouldn't you want as many hands dealt as possible?
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:01 PM   #7456
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Is it available to buy chips for cash games using my credit card?
That's what ATMs are for.


I've played at Parx once and got cleaned out. Haven't been back since due to the fact I live close to Harrah's Chester/Philly.

Is Parx busy on weeknights such as Tuesday?
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:52 PM   #7457
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they are still drastically reducing the amount if hands being played given an allotted amount if time. Given the choice being a good player wouldn't you want as many hands dealt as possible?
On general principles, card rooms don't usually cater to professional players, and for good reason.

If they wish to make this situation result in a dead hand for the player, they should:
  1. State it unambiguously in the rules; or at least
  2. Tell the guy what happens when time is up.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:14 PM   #7458
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On general principles, card rooms don't usually cater to professional players, and for good reason.
Yes and no. They cater to players who put in a lot of hours, start games, play short, and know a lot of people in the room. Many of the people who fit this description are professionals. When I say "cater" I mean they are more likely to take suggestions from the pro who plays 150 hours a month than the random recreational player who plays once a month.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:01 PM   #7459
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Yes and no. They cater to players who put in a lot of hours, start games, play short, and know a lot of people in the room. Many of the people who fit this description are professionals. When I say "cater" I mean they are more likely to take suggestions from the pro who plays 150 hours a month than the random recreational player who plays once a month.
Agree 100% with everything you said. That is not exactly what I was talking about though.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:03 PM   #7460
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If they wish to make this situation result in a dead hand for the player, they should:
  1. State it unambiguously in the rules; or at least
  2. Tell the guy what happens when time is up.
Agreed.

I'm all for calling the hand dead. Just be a competent floor person and first state that the hand will be dead once time is up.

There is a reason why the separate thread has many responses. We hardly ever, if ever, find the clock being called on someone who is first to act. It's obviously debatable whether such a hand should be called dead or that the inactivity be ruled a check. It wouldn't be debatable, however, had the floor been clear from the start.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:19 AM   #7461
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Kill the hand. Screw them if they are taking that long first to act. As if it isn't bad enough then the floor is called for the clock, then that player has the audacity to let the clock run to zero. If that douche wants to act like he isn't even there by not listening to anyone then treat him like he isn't actually there and just take his cards away as if he walked over to the bar in the middle of the hand. It doesn't take much to check, he obviously did it intentionally and deserves what he got.
I'm ok with this. He was first to act, ffs.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:54 AM   #7462
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Anyone know how many runners to expect for the Saturday weekly tourney around this time of year? Haven't been to Parx in a while and trying to get practice in before hitting WSOP in a bit.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:49 PM   #7463
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i'm with zrap on this one. it's an obscure rule and maybe should have been mentioned - but it's up to the players to know the rules in each casino. floor isn't responsible for knowing who knows what rule.

also if someone in any situation in life counts down from 10 to zero, you know nothing good is gonna happen if you just sit there and do nothing maybe this lesson will save his life at some point
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:42 PM   #7464
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also if someone in any situation in life counts down from 10 to zero, you know nothing good is gonna happen if you just sit there and do nothing maybe this lesson will save his life at some point
Counterexamples:

* New Year's Eve - you might get to make out at 0
* Sporting Event - may be intertwined with the "Na na na na hey hey goodbye" song
* Shuttle/rocket launches - ****in a awesome
* I've Been Waiting for Tomorrow - excellent song off an excellent album



I don't know what Parx' rule is for this situation (I doubt they have one). Ideally, the floor would have made clear what would happen at the end of the countdown. But as others have said, I have no real problem killing the hand of a douche who wastes everyone's time letting the timer expire when he's not even facing a bet. Lesson learned: don't be a douche.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:40 PM   #7465
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

I see some lists for 2/5 NLH/PLO lately on Bravo. Has this game been running much?
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:29 PM   #7466
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

I plan on playing in a NLHE tournament this Saturday, and I'm debating between the $150 at Delaware Park and the $200+30 at Parx. Anyone have any info on the structure and the general turnout is for these tournaments? Their websites don't seem to have details on structure...

(FYI - I'm cross posting this in the Delaware Park thread as well)
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:33 PM   #7467
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

what is the min/max buyin for 10/10nl? how big does it play?
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:57 PM   #7468
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Max $3k. Slightly bigger than borgata 5/10 because of occasional straddle and the fact that the standard raise is either $40 or $50 rather than the more common $35 at borgata.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:22 AM   #7469
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i plan on heading over there for the first time tonight. Figure I will start with 1/2 to get accustomed to the place. Are the 1/2 games juicy or standard for 1/2 stakes?
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:54 AM   #7470
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Slightly bigger than borgata 5/10 because of occasional straddle
Well not anymore
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:24 AM   #7471
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Anyone know how many runners to expect for the Saturday weekly tourney around this time of year? Haven't been to Parx in a while and trying to get practice in before hitting WSOP in a bit.
Bueller?
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:28 PM   #7472
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i'm with zrap on this one. it's an obscure rule and maybe should have been mentioned - but it's up to the players to know the rules in each casino. floor isn't responsible for knowing who knows what rule.

also if someone in any situation in life counts down from 10 to zero, you know nothing good is gonna happen if you just sit there and do nothing maybe this lesson will save his life at some point
It is NOT a rule. WTF is the point of players learning the rules if the floor isn't going to follow them.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:32 PM   #7473
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Went to Parx for the first time yesterday. Wasn't expecting the place to be so big. Nice poker room but it was the first time I've ever been a casino where the drinks weren't free. Even weirder was the burger place not taking credit.

Speaking of odd, I signed up for what on the board said was 6-12 O/E. Sounds like Omaha hi-lo to me and I felt like trying something new. After a long time (don't quote me but felt like at least 45 min) I get called. Played a little and find out they're doing kill pots. Nice of them to tell anybody. Then I play a little more and the dealer says we're switching to 7 card stud. Thought he was joking at first. Once again, nice for them not to mention this is a mixed game. It's whatever enough that it was obvious the table was filled with regs, they should really define what the game is you're playing. Kill pots and mixed games should be clearly labeled, or at least have the guy putting you on the list let you know what you're getting into.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:39 PM   #7474
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Went to Parx for the first time yesterday. Wasn't expecting the place to be so big. Nice poker room but it was the first time I've ever been a casino where the drinks weren't free. Even weirder was the burger place not taking credit.

Speaking of odd, I signed up for what on the board said was 6-12 O/E. Sounds like Omaha hi-lo to me and I felt like trying something new. After a long time (don't quote me but felt like at least 45 min) I get called. Played a little and find out they're doing kill pots. Nice of them to tell anybody. Then I play a little more and the dealer says we're switching to 7 card stud. Thought he was joking at first. Once again, nice for them not to mention this is a mixed game. It's whatever enough that it was obvious the table was filled with regs, they should really define what the game is you're playing. Kill pots and mixed games should be clearly labeled, or at least have the guy putting you on the list let you know what you're getting into.
Sorry you were confused, but Im sure it wasn't intentional.

OE is pretty commonly known to be Omaha Eight and Stud Eight rotation in most casino locations in the US, including Vegas, LA, and AC.

Similar to HORSE, HOSE, HA, etc.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:11 PM   #7475
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Good to know, just wasn't expecting it. I have no real experience in either game and yet seemed to have more of an edge in stud anyway (did get mocked at for trying to pull a bluff that almost worked because all the regs knew one of the guys in the hand would never fold). TBH, the first paragraph annoyed me more than the 2nd. The food options were also very lacking compared to what I'm used to in AC. Combine that with them not having low-limit BJ (which my friends play) and I don't see myself going back there much.
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