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Originally Posted by dinesh
I avoided making any commentary when I answered earlier, but since you asked...
It might make some small improvement, I guess, but IMO not nearly enough of one to make it worthwhile to deal with the hassle of trying to manage such a thing. It would be subjective, bureaucratic, unwieldy, and would probably slow everything down.
I play a fast FLHE game where a slow dealer is most noticeable, and IMO most dealers are perfectly fine, speedwise. In fact, IMO the bigger issue is that some of the dealers are too fast for their own good, making stupid mistakes like not seeing raises and pulling in bets prematurely, because they are trying to be as fast as possible.
And in the NL game that makes up the majority of the room, I can't imagine dealer speed is even a blip on the radar compared to the slowness of the players themselves as they ponder their actions.
I also think the dealers like knowing that it's random, and that they're never going to get stuck in a bad string because the shift supervisor doesn't like them.
Finally, I think the casino should be working to improve the skills of slow dealers, not just trying to spread them out better. It's in their best interest too, since most of the games are rake based, and a faster dealer will pull in more rake, on average.
Again, just my opinion. I can certainly sympathize with the pain of having several bad dealers in a row, but I just haven't experienced it much (if ever, at Parx) myself, and I put it a lot of hours.
As an aside, I have never worked in casino, but from observations here are some reasons why the specific table being opened can be important:
* Different tables have different chips in the racks. The game I play in has no blue $2 chips at all, so we generally use the same 2-3 tables which are set up to accommodate us.
* The dealer strings have to be sensical (i.e. not bouncing all over the room from push to push) and yet still have breaks (and dead spreads) be evenly spread throughtout the shift.
* For games with a must-move, you generally want to push dealers in the opposite direction of players, so that moving players don't get "stuck" with the same dealers twice in a row, and so that (in non-rake games) players don't get to skip time by moving tables at the same time as the dealer pushes.
thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasnt saying that the shift guys need to go as far as to set the rotation to a tee, but just make sure that the 2 95 yr old dealers arent back to back. I don't even mind seeing 3 slow dealer in an 8 hour shift but just do something so that they arent back to back.
I havent experienced it a great deal either, but when it does happen and the next 90 minutes is noticeably slower and you play 1/3 less hands, it tilts the crap out of me.
I heard from dealers parx was evaluating and monitoring the number of hands dealers dealt in an hour and they needed to reach a certain average or face discipline, so speed is an issue. If their reasons for doing this is just rake generation related thats ok with me, but as you say, they should take steps to improve the skill set by dealers. That would be the best win-win for us and parx.
When I was talking about different tables being opened, I meant at the same game level ie all the 1/2NL tables are near the bathrooms but some days they use the back of the room(like yesterday) and other days they use the tables right behind the check in desk, while other days they open a new table 5 tables away when the next table is not even in use, but still the same 1/2nl level. Thought obviously goes into this for the reasons you mentioned and more.
It probably was a stupid request by me in the first place, but I havent heard it mentioned before and I thought I'd see if they even think about things like that. Last thing they want to happen is to break games based off of the dealers competence and I've seen that happen twice in the last 10 days.