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Old 04-23-2012, 03:25 PM   #7326
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Spread a true 6-max. Make it a 5/10 time-rake, though the limits can be tweaked.
i'm in...i asked for that and they said "i'll bring it up at the next meeting" or whatever. I didn't really pursue it further.

the problem is live people want a full table - even some of the regs (which i will never understand). you ever notice when there is a seat open...i'm sure you do because half the table is screaming "SEAT OPEN". so i just doubt it would fly. also i think casual players would be either intimidated or lose their money really fast. so i dunno. you might have a better chance if it was 2/5 since a decent bankroll for 5/10 (especially if they play it deep) would be out of reach for a lot of people (counting me for now...i'd play 2/5 6max though for sure).

i have also tried to start tables when i get there and there's a list. like i'll see a guy waiting with me and ask him to play HU until the table fills. i have done it a few times (though a small percentage of the times I actually try) and honestly the table fills way faster when people are playing rather than a list. i dunno why but i think it makes it more real...like a game is happening rather than just a list of names. I wish they would at least let this happen more.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:05 PM   #7327
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Had an idea, and been trying to buzz it around to dealers/floor/players willing to listen...
My thought, and something I've never seen done live...
Spread a true 6-max. Make it a 5/10 time-rake, though the limits can be tweaked.
There are some of us who live for short-handed play, and given the chance, would prefer it, whatever our reasons.
Every room seems to have a gimmick, a unique offering to its patronage, be-it bad-beat-jackpots, or a no-cap 1/2 (Nugget), or any number of promotions, comps, freerolls, or other attractions meant to create more foot-traffic in the casio/poker-room.
Its clear Parx Poker fishes in the same pond, same demographic, as any other rooms within an hour or two's drive.

I think you will find Parx will attract players specifically for this game who are perhaps now most frequenting some of its competitors. There's always that one thing that makes a player choose one Poker Room over the others.
Feedback? Interest? Ideas?
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:08 PM   #7328
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Had an idea, and been trying to buzz it around to dealers/floor/players willing to listen...
My thought, and something I've never seen done live...
Spread a true 6-max. Make it a 5/10 time-rake, though the limits can be tweaked.
There are some of us who live for short-handed play, and given the chance, would prefer it, whatever our reasons.
Every room seems to have a gimmick, a unique offering to its patronage, be-it bad-beat-jackpots, or a no-cap 1/2 (Nugget), or any number of promotions, comps, freerolls, or other attractions meant to create more foot-traffic in the casio/poker-room.
Its clear Parx Poker fishes in the same pond, same demographic, as any other rooms within an hour or two's drive.

I think you will find Parx will attract players specifically for this game who are perhaps now most frequenting some of its competitors. There's always that one thing that makes a player choose one Poker Room over the others.
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1 six max table for each NLHE game (1-2, 2-5, 10-10) or a couple 6 max 5 - 10 tables......Yum Yum
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #7329
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1 six max table for each NLHE game (1-2, 2-5, 10-10) or a couple 6 max 5 - 10 tables......Yum Yum
Been tried guys at the Borg.

Usually what happens is that 5 seats are taken by aggressive 6 max players that actively seek the game... and the last seat is a clueless short stacker that wanted to sit at the first game they could... Short stack busts... 5 aggressive regs look at each other... table breaks.

Rinse repeat, game never goes.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:03 PM   #7330
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1 six max table for each NLHE game (1-2, 2-5, 10-10) or a couple 6 max 5 - 10 tables......Yum Yum
If you crave short action, the 10/10 starts short every day. It usually ends short too in the wee hours. Aside from that I doubt this would ever run at 10/10 as the player pool is too small and everyone is gonna play what the recreational players want to play and that is full ring.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:43 PM   #7331
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

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1 six max table for each NLHE game (1-2, 2-5, 10-10) or a couple 6 max 5 - 10 tables......Yum Yum
I said 5/10, somewhat arbitrarily, because the 2/5 is not time-raked, and the pot-rake can amount to exponentially more when we do our 5am dance (3-handed, 2-5-10 auto-straddle).

I rather like the idea of running a table at each limit, maybe one - 6-max table at 1/2 for every ten 9-max, and once 6-max table at 2/5 for every five 9-max.

Heck, could always do a list of interest and spread a la carte!

I just would prefer a time-raked, say 4 or 5 dollars/ half, and since 2/5 is pot-raked, and 10-10 is clearly too exclusive/elite to ever serve as a catalyst for 6-max trend-setting, and more over, too deep, I thought this might be a good fit for a 5/10 standard 1500 max.

Perhaps, consider running the 6-max as a shallow (or standard) 2/5 - 500 max which may actually serve another purpose...bridging the profound and formidable gap between the 1/2 300 max and the deep-structured 2/5 1k max, bringing the higher stakes within reach of players who may not otherwise consider it. The Parx 1/2 sort who will play the softer 2/5 in AC or Sands, but shy away from the Parx games, which have real teeth.

Point is, plenty of options.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:51 PM   #7332
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If you crave short action, the 10/10 starts short every day. It usually ends short too in the wee hours. Aside from that I doubt this would ever run at 10/10 as the player pool is too small and everyone is gonna play what the recreational players want to play and that is full ring.
Definately not at 10/10. I, myself have dabbled, often drawn in by the lure of a 5 handed deep game. But quite frankly, this is not a game which will rally players to the cause. Usually, its all business. I envisioned some kind of hybrid that resembles one of the late-night merged 2/5 tables. Usually very social, and on more than an occasion, if the game gets deep enough, the action can get as or more substantial than 10-10, hand-for-hand.

Its glorious.

And...nauseating.

DAM it I love this game!
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:52 PM   #7333
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

1/3, 300 minmax should have been 6max from the start.
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Old 04-25-2012, 02:15 AM   #7334
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i'm in...i asked for that and they said "i'll bring it up at the next meeting" or whatever. I didn't really pursue it further.

the problem is live people want a full table - even some of the regs (which i will never understand). you ever notice when there is a seat open...i'm sure you do because half the table is screaming "SEAT OPEN". so i just doubt it would fly. also i think casual players would be either intimidated or lose their money really fast. so i dunno. you might have a better chance if it was 2/5 since a decent bankroll for 5/10 (especially if they play it deep) would be out of reach for a lot of people (counting me for now...i'd play 2/5 6max though for sure).

i have also tried to start tables when i get there and there's a list. like i'll see a guy waiting with me and ask him to play HU until the table fills. i have done it a few times (though a small percentage of the times I actually try) and honestly the table fills way faster when people are playing rather than a list. i dunno why but i think it makes it more real...like a game is happening rather than just a list of names. I wish they would at least let this happen more.
I'm a 2/5 reg and I don't want to play in a 6-max game. Why would I? I don't go to the poker room for entertainment, I go to make money. And the money mostly comes from the recreational players. 6-max games do not attract those players, they intimidate them.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:39 AM   #7335
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

wuddup guys. i am a northern va local that usually plays at charlestown, wv (hollywood casino). let me begin my saying that if you ever have the chance to visit this poker room, GO. especially if you like money. the action is basically unparalleled in the smaller (1/2 and 2/5) games. and the 5/5 plo plays more like 10/25. the games are very beatable and there is heavy action basically every single day of the week.
anyways having said that, i need to take a break and have decided to come check out parx. its more of a forced break...you would think that ripping up a card and throwing it on the table wouldnt be such a huge deal right? WRONG! apparently they dont take very kindly to "destruction towards property" or something of that nature. for the record, let it be known that in the last 10 years of playing, i have never done such a thing and was just having a horrible night before even heading out to play and prob should have stayed at home instead. so bottom line, yeah dont shred your hand after a cooler or you might get a mandatory one month hiatus. lolozlzozlzo

i hope you guys liked my anecdote; i am actually here to post a few questions. this is my first time to play at parx and would really appreciate any general info regarding the following manner:
where is the best/cheapeast/most convenient place to stay close to the casino? i am aware of the special poker rates available through the site at nearby hotels but would like to get some first hand knowledge/suggestions from poker players that have checked out the hotels in area.

another reason why i def wanna check out the room is for the limit action. i have seen frequent updates on bravo consisting of 15/30 lh as well as some 30 h.o.e. or o.e. variations. i would love to play these games. can someone tell me how frequently they run during a typical week?

thanks so much in advance for your replies.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:05 AM   #7336
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You might find this link interesting: http://parx.phil.ly/

15-30 LHE runs from noon-early morning every day, and some days runs all night.

6-12 OE runs every day from early morning to late night (not sure if it runs overnight ever) - basically just like 15-30, but shifted a few hours earlier.

30-60 games of all varieties run less frequently, basically whenever enough players who want to play them are around. usually they will start up mid-week, post-dinner, and will run into the late night.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:50 AM   #7337
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Used to playing tourneys at the Borgata where lines can get ridiculous if you don't sign up online or early. I'm sure its not like that at Parx, but if I want to play the deepstack bounty on Saturday at 11am what time should I get there to ensure I get a seat and don't need to wait in much of a line to register? Is this even a concern?
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:12 AM   #7338
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

who's the clown at parx with the AK tattoo on his left forearm, was playing with him friday night and he was bragging that he is a pro. making fun of other players plays. pretty funny because we were at a 1/2 table and he was short stacking with many guys including myself with $500 plus at table
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:50 AM   #7339
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:30 PM   #7340
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Played 2/5 and 10/10 at parx last friday, did well at the 2/5 and had a real soft table. 10/10 however was a different story. Max bi was 3k leaving me severely underfunded and my table was dam tough. There were almost zero limped pots, lots of 3 betting pf, very few showdowns and no drunks. I'll be back and hopefully make some adjustments in my game. Maybe get a softer table as well. Btw lost 1200$ at that game, most of which was from 1 cooler type hand.
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:26 PM   #7341
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I'm a 2/5 reg and I don't want to play in a 6-max game. Why would I? I don't go to the poker room for entertainment, I go to make money. And the money mostly comes from the recreational players. 6-max games do not attract those players, they intimidate them.
who cares what you want 2/5 "reg"! Stay at the regular tables, we are just asking for a couple of 5 -10 6 max tables and test it out for a few months.
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:36 PM   #7342
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No need to be hostile. This is a message board and he was just stating his opinion. I don't really understand why you put reg in scare quotes but he certainly has a point.

But go ahead and try it by talking to Ari. My guess is it will have the same fate as the 2-3NL game that was proposed on this board and had traction for about 2 weeks and then fizzled out.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:24 PM   #7343
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I'm a 2/5 reg and I don't want to play in a 6-max game. Why would I? I don't go to the poker room for entertainment, I go to make money. And the money mostly comes from the recreational players. 6-max games do not attract those players, they intimidate them.
who said 6 max was for entertainment?

I def agree with you that fish aren't going to be attracted to 6max games. but if they were, you'd make more money there vs them.

I don't really see a solution tbh. maybe make it a special event like 6 max tuesdays...or start with 6 max sit n gos to build up a little momentum. i dunno. i don't think it's going to fly in the foreseeable future. :/
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:21 AM   #7344
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Maybe Parx could get one or two automated tables for sng's and 6 max, it would balance out the profitability vs sq ft argument. There is a company in delco that provides them and is licensed in PA. Lightning Gaming.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:06 AM   #7345
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who said 6 max was for entertainment?

I def agree with you that fish aren't going to be attracted to 6max games. but if they were, you'd make more money there vs them.

I don't really see a solution tbh. maybe make it a special event like 6 max tuesdays...or start with 6 max sit n gos to build up a little momentum. i dunno. i don't think it's going to fly in the foreseeable future. :/
I just don't see this running. Six max tables will be MUCH stronger tables than 9 handed games. Why play when you already know there's not going to be as much free money in the game while across the aisle, there are much weaker spots. New players will never sit in this game. That's really the way it was with that 2/3 game. Played it one time and it was way stronger than a typical 1/2, but of course that may have been bad luck on my part. Very tight aggressive
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:14 PM   #7346
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who cares what you want 2/5 "reg"! Stay at the regular tables, we are just asking for a couple of 5 -10 6 max tables and test it out for a few months.
I was responding to someone's post...spacecakezzz I think. He said he couldnt understand why regs do not want to play 6-max. I gave him a reason. I don't care if they run it or not, I'm simply stating that the full ring is where the fish will be. So I guess running 6-max would be a good thing, since all you poker wizards will move to that game, where you can critique each other's play and talk about merging your ranges. Have fun, I hope they start one up for you.
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:35 AM   #7347
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All the table games in the Parx East building have been closed (and allegedly moved to the main building). As discussed earlier in this thread, the Chinatown buses have also reportedly stopped.

Horseracing is still in Parx East, but once that closes down the downstairs of the building becomes a ghost town. It's a little spooky.

No idea what the future plans for the space are.
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:06 AM   #7348
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Does anyone know if or how they set up the dealer rotation in the room?

There is nothing more tilting then getting 2 or 3 really slow dealers back to back to back. It doesnt happen often but when it does I just wanna get up and go home.

I'm assuming the Mgt knows who are the better, more competent and quick dealers and i was just wondering if they took the time to stagger the less competent dealers instead of putting them back to back in rotation.

It happened to me twice in my last 3 visits where I got the 2 older male dealers within 3 tables and the person in the middle was god awfully slow. The second time it happened to me, my table broke during the 2nd dealer bc 5 players couldnt take it that the games pace came to a halt and got up and left.

I don't want this post to sound like I'm bitching about the dealers bc I think they are mostly friendly and good but if Mgt doesnt stagger certain dealers away from other slow dealers, they should think about doing it.

Just a little request that doesnt cost anyone any money and doesnt make players want to get up and leave.
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:38 AM   #7349
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No, in general, dealers draw randomly into their strings when they arrive on shift (if you stand around by the shift manager desk when a big group of them are waiting right around a change you can watch them draw table assignments).

On occasion they might goose the assignments during the tourney series when some of the more oddball games are being played, but as a general practice I don't believe they do anything like what you're suggesting.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:42 PM   #7350
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All the table games in the Parx East building have been closed (and allegedly moved to the main building). As discussed earlier in this thread, the Chinatown buses have also reportedly stopped.

Horseracing is still in Parx East, but once that closes down the downstairs of the building becomes a ghost town. It's a little spooky.

No idea what the future plans for the space are.
That sucks, a lot.


I like the room, but it would be eons better to be in the main casino.
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