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Old 02-01-2012, 05:03 PM   #6901
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

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$12 is a lot when you are comparing it to nothing, which isn't functional. The difference between what are you are asking for (which is light for rake) and time is minimal and I am going to have to say that time as it stands is still better for the game.
You're right, what ever takes less money of the table overall, is what's best for the player and the game. All those days you win 1 pot and hour are mitigated by the ones you win 2-4 pots an hour.

A better example is when the game is short. You pay $6/hour vs $2/3 bucks a hand. Say the game is 4 handed. You win an average of 6 hands an hour(which might be low in a 4 handed game to be honest). How's rake look now?

Factoring in what the Bellagio does isn't relevant, they are 2500 miles apart. Bell takes rakes 10/20 and does $10/hour at 20/40. If they raked the 15 that would be worse for any player.

Unless the game is going REALLY REALLY slow constantly(which is a dealer issue not a rake issue) or it's draw games on a full table, time is the way to go.


ps - unless you're SUPER SUPER nitty, time pots even out in the long term. Even with the good players avoiding them.
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:04 PM   #6902
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Poker room manager definitely sets the rake.
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:06 PM   #6903
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Poker room manager definitely sets the rake.
Are you sure? Aren't all PA rakes the same? Plus no poker room manager lowers revenue without someone higher up approving.
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:57 PM   #6904
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

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You're right, what ever takes less money of the table overall, is what's best for the player and the game. All those days you win 1 pot and hour are mitigated by the ones you win 2-4 pots an hour.

A better example is when the game is short. You pay $6/hour vs $2/3 bucks a hand. Say the game is 4 handed. You win an average of 6 hands an hour(which might be low in a 4 handed game to be honest). How's rake look now?

Factoring in what the Bellagio does isn't relevant, they are 2500 miles apart. Bell takes rakes 10/20 and does $10/hour at 20/40. If they raked the 15 that would be worse for any player.

Unless the game is going REALLY REALLY slow constantly(which is a dealer issue not a rake issue) or it's draw games on a full table, time is the way to go.


ps - unless you're SUPER SUPER nitty, time pots even out in the long term. Even with the good players avoiding them.
I am confused why you quoted me, I am firmly in support of time.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:15 PM   #6905
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Any idea how many qualified for the 50k freeroll? Did they put a list up of any kind?
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:31 PM   #6906
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I am confused why you quoted me, I am firmly in support of time.

I quoted you because you were making the point of time being better than rake. I opened with You're right..and just furthered the point.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:54 PM   #6907
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Are you sure? Aren't all PA rakes the same? Plus no poker room manager lowers revenue without someone higher up approving.
Chester has had low rake nights before. PA rooms have higher rake because none of them are near each other. They each have relatively substantial geographic monopolies. Parx and Chester are the closest ones.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:12 PM   #6908
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Whats the usual amount of runners for a tuesday or thursday 7pm tourney?
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:11 PM   #6909
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I quoted you because you were making the point of time being better than rake. I opened with You're right..and just furthered the point.
Sorry, makes sense now, I guess I just jumped the gun while reading it too fast.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:07 AM   #6910
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

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$16@40/80 > $14@30/60 > $14@20/40 > $12@15/30 > $10@10/20

Hmm it's almost like there's a pattern here.
The difference that I'm attempting to point out is the decrease of time taken per hour in percentage to the increase in limit. The 20/40 nj game is an increase of 33% over the 15/30 game while the time collected is just an increase of 16%. The difference in savings is considerable over a full year of play if the 15/30 game was switched to 20/40 or the time in the 15/30 game was reduced to $10 an hour.

I'm just making a simple request from an observation. I'm not looking to cause a situation or major debate. Just figured its never bad to ask.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:08 PM   #6911
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Anyone know how many runners the Saturday tourney usually gets and how long it generally lasts?
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:48 PM   #6912
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Anyone know how many runners the Saturday tourney usually gets and how long it generally lasts?
around 100 runners / between 6-8 hrs


Any chance of a PLO game tonight ? I cant make it out tomorrow night....
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:21 PM   #6913
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Good luck with you move Mike!
Thanks Brian, I regret that I never managed to sit in on the new PLO structure... I was planning on doing so whenever the NL games were bad, but... just didn't happen.

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Good luck mike wish you the best. One less person to three bet my late position opens.

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The very best of luck with your new job and the move. It was a pleasure playing 10/10 NL with you the few time we were at the same table. Maybe if you get a good stock or other tip you will pass it along (just a joke)

Make lots of money!!!
Thanks a lotJack, it was a pleasure to play with a gentleman like yourself.


Ok, done making this thread into my yearbook... carry on!
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:38 PM   #6914
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around 100 runners / between 6-8 hrs


Any chance of a PLO game tonight ? I cant make it out tomorrow night....
Always possible, just get on the $5 PLO list when you arrive and if it starts to fill up it might get called
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:01 PM   #6915
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Always possible, just get on the $5 PLO list when you arrive and if it starts to fill up it might get called
There is usually enough interest in the room to get it started, just takes someone who's willing to round up the usual suspects and get it going.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:29 PM   #6916
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There is usually enough interest in the room to get it started, just takes someone who's willing to round up the usual suspects and get it going.
ahem ahem, and where/when would one look for such an individual?
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:54 PM   #6917
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Plo tommorow be there @7
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:29 AM   #6918
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Any idea how many qualified for the 50k freeroll? Did they put a list up of any kind?
468 qualified:

http://parxpokerblog.com/2012/02/02/...ion-finalized/
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:44 AM   #6919
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ahem ahem, and where/when would one look for such an individual?
Just look for the loudmouth idiot in the track suit.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:02 PM   #6920
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

The 10-10 game is now going to be a $500-$3,000 buy-in from what I understand.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:03 PM   #6921
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

All WPT series tournaments have 20 min blinds except the main event. Having noticed it on the structure sheet, I asked one of the day shift managers. She said that it's been updated, and the proper info is on the website.
As of today, parx website shows the structures as described above. All touneys ($100, $200, $300) with 20 min levels, except the Main.

Can we get a clarification? Structures suck. I would only play ME if they are accurate.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:07 PM   #6922
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

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The 10-10 game is now going to be a $500-$3,000 buy-in from what I understand.
When is this effective?
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:25 PM   #6923
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When is this effective?
Yesterday it was $1000-No Cap the whole day which I think is bad for the game. It scares away fish and shot taking players who come over and see a bunch of people sitting $5-10k deep with a mountain of blacks and a few oranges.

$3,000 is a fine max.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:52 PM   #6924
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Yesterday it was $1000-No Cap the whole day which I think is bad for the game. It scares away fish and shot taking players who come over and see a bunch of people sitting $5-10k deep with a mountain of blacks and a few oranges.

$3,000 is a fine max.
Never have played 10-10 but I am a 5/10 reg at other venues. Can't be much of a difference in playing styles between the two am I correct?

And I agree 3k max is a beautiful thing. My typical buy in is 100BB if I'm unknown at the table, but a 3k max gives a lot of room to try to cover the fish once they are spotted.

Although I'm not opposed to a no cap structure.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #6925
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Yesterday it was $1000-No Cap the whole day which I think is bad for the game. It scares away fish and shot taking players who come over and see a bunch of people sitting $5-10k deep with a mountain of blacks and a few oranges.

$3,000 is a fine max.

I also like a 3k max. Also, it keeps the option open for the 10/20 NL game or 10/25 NL game to pop up once in awhile.
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