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Old 11-29-2011, 04:30 PM   #6376
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Care to prop bet?

According to 2+2's "most recent post" filter, out of his last 25 posts, 19 were live game reports, ~4 were giving tourny schedules, and the last ~2 were answering other questions.

Again, though, that's not to say his ongoing presence on the forums isn't awesome as well.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:36 PM   #6377
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

I ride the Asian buses frequently from Manhattan. I know I, for one, pay for my entire bus's bonus packages with my theoretical losses (I play pretty high limit baccarat/pai gow tiles: ~$300 a hand, 4.5 hours). You just deal with the fact that 80% just come for the ride (sleep in the lobby, wash up in the bathrooms, watch TV in the racebook, search for credits in slot machines), while 20% bring in revenue.

It's not a matter of if they are making money on these buses, it's whether or not they are making money hand over fist. Stopping the buses for three days is ******ed and I don't see the point. But oh well. another Pennsylvania casino will get my business for this week then.

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Old 11-29-2011, 04:51 PM   #6378
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Hey fwiw I hope they keep the buses going.

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Old 11-29-2011, 05:53 PM   #6379
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I think all poker players should be rooting for the buses to continue. The ones who make their way upstairs to the poker room are nice additions as they like to gamble and don't seem very skilled.

On a negative note. Last weekend I'm playing at a great table with some recreational players who obviously have money to blow. Couple of them order vodka/red bulls. The waitress comes and they are $12 each!! For just a regular cup size.. nothing huge. Even those "well off money to blow" types we shocked at the price. FFS most casinos serve these for $0.00.

STOP RIPPING OFF YOUR CUSTOMERS PARX!!
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:11 PM   #6380
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You're wrong Jay, the one time I played it, the sign said it was 6/hh for the PLO/NL mixed, when I said that had to be wrong the floor agreed with me and went to verify it with Brandon (bnavata), who confirmed it was 6/hh. Another reason not to play the game, imo.
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I believe last Wednesday it was handwritten that the time rake was $5/hh. However, when the game was called last Friday, only one sign had the handwritten $5/hh on it. After a short discussion, we were told that the game would be raked instead of paying time.

Another update, the $5 bringin while playing 1/3 plo is no longer allowed. An employee of Parx is 100% responsible for this due to the action not being a legal play.

My personal opinion, stick with the rounding down idea, keep plo a red chip game, and make it a 1/2/5 3 blind game with a min/max buyin of 200-1000. Opening pot raise would be to $15 as the blinds would not be assumed calls, causing the $18 pot bet to be rounded down to $15. I would think with this blind structure the game could be time raked, and there would be no more problems with people being upset of not being able to do a $5 bringin.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:22 PM   #6381
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I believe last Wednesday it was handwritten that the time rake was $5/hh. However, when the game was called last Friday, only one sign had the handwritten $5/hh on it. After a short discussion, we were told that the game would be raked instead of paying time.

Another update, the $5 bringin while playing 1/3 plo is no longer allowed. An employee of Parx is 100% responsible for this due to the action not being a legal play.

My personal opinion, stick with the rounding down idea, keep plo a red chip game, and make it a 1/2/5 3 blind game with a min/max buyin of 200-1000. Opening pot raise would be to $15 as the blinds would not be assumed calls, causing the $18 pot bet to be rounded down to $15. I would think with this blind structure the game could be time raked, and there would be no more problems with people being upset of not being able to do a $5 bringin.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:16 PM   #6382
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Ari and Brandon may not post much here, but any issues brought up in these forums or in person at Parx, have been either been resolved or at least answered in some way relatively quickly. I.e. the oot rule, bathroom, parking lot, 1-3 plo, big chips at 2-5, etc.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:40 PM   #6383
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I believe last Wednesday it was handwritten that the time rake was $5/hh. However, when the game was called last Friday, only one sign had the handwritten $5/hh on it. After a short discussion, we were told that the game would be raked instead of paying time.

Another update, the $5 bringin while playing 1/3 plo is no longer allowed. An employee of Parx is 100% responsible for this due to the action not being a legal play.

My personal opinion, stick with the rounding down idea, keep plo a red chip game, and make it a 1/2/5 3 blind game with a min/max buyin of 200-1000. Opening pot raise would be to $15 as the blinds would not be assumed calls, causing the $18 pot bet to be rounded down to $15. I would think with this blind structure the game could be time raked, and there would be no more problems with people being upset of not being able to do a $5 bringin.
This would be great, but there was a huge upheaval from the nits that wanted a smaller game when we tried it way back when, so we settled on 1/3 as middle ground between the 1/2 and 1/2/5.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:35 PM   #6384
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they stopped the asian busses for three days to see if they make more money with them not here. lol
Great, I take em once or twice per week from NYC, its way cheaper than driving. I had a 24 hour session once tho, wrong bus time posted downstairs. Actually the ridership seems to be steadily decreasing, sometimes we had to sweat to make the 15 minimum to leave the city.

I like how there is no info on the Parx website regarding this.
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:21 AM   #6385
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This would be great, but there was a huge upheaval from the nits that wanted a smaller game when we tried it way back when, so we settled on 1/3 as middle ground between the 1/2 and 1/2/5.
Ari and I actually had a thought on the whole $5 bring in for PLO... What would you guys think of a single blind $5?? Not saying that this is a guarantee that we will do it, but what are your thoughts??
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:59 AM   #6386
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Ari and I actually had a thought on the whole $5 bring in for PLO... What would you guys think of a single blind $5?? Not saying that this is a guarantee that we will do it, but what are your thoughts??
I think the game Works the way it stands. 1/3 and 2/5. 1/3 doesnt scare anyone away who either want to learn the game, or just want to have some fun. I do not like the idea of a single blind. 1/2/5 plays to big for begginners and thats who i want in the game. Keep it the way it is Imo
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:18 AM   #6387
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I think the game Works the way it stands. 1/3 and 2/5. 1/3 doesnt scare anyone away who either want to learn the game, or just want to have some fun. I do not like the idea of a single blind. 1/2/5 plays to big for begginners and thats who i want in the game. Keep it the way it is Imo
+1. See you tonight bud.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:11 AM   #6388
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Ari and I actually had a thought on the whole $5 bring in for PLO... What would you guys think of a single blind $5?? Not saying that this is a guarantee that we will do it, but what are your thoughts??
I really like the idea, makes it a red chip game, makes the opening raise up to 15, and it simplifies everything tremendously. What position would you have post the blind? My suggestion would be to have the button post it. I've heard of other PLO games where they don't have ep blinds, just an ante for the button and it works well.
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Old 11-30-2011, 11:59 AM   #6389
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I really like the idea, makes it a red chip game, makes the opening raise up to 15, and it simplifies everything tremendously. What position would you have post the blind? My suggestion would be to have the button post it. I've heard of other PLO games where they don't have ep blinds, just an ante for the button and it works well.
I have to disagree. The less confusing for the new player the better for the game.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:00 PM   #6390
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+1. See you tonight bud.
Nxt week i let bri know already have a pretty crazy schedule til monday night.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:04 PM   #6391
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1/3, redchip after the flop works for me... 1/3/5 would make it the largest game in the room most nights.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:23 PM   #6392
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1/3, redchip after the flop works for me... 1/3/5 would make it the largest game in the room most nights.
1/3, red chip after flop, and rounding pot down should be the way to run it.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:23 PM   #6393
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Nxt week i let bri know already have a pretty crazy schedule til monday night.
Sounds good. See you next week then.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:27 PM   #6394
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1/3, redchip after the flop works for me... 1/3/5 would make it the largest game in the room most nights.
I agree that the size of 1/3 is right for an entry level game, but a single 5 dollar blind bet with the same buy in structure would be the same size game, and it would completely remove the question of white/blue and rounding, making it a much better structure, imo.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:32 PM   #6395
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I'm fine with whatever and obv want it to be red chip after the flop. We're paying time so being able to get in an extra hand or two each down due to less "pot" calculating is nice.

That being said...

isn't 1/3 open (max) raise $10 and the single $5 blind (max) raise $15?

The games aren't the same size.

Again I'm fine with either, but it's a different (larger) structure.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:39 PM   #6396
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I'm fine with whatever and obv want it to be red chip after the flop. We're paying time so being able to get in an extra hand or two each down due to less "pot" calculating is nice.

That being said...

isn't 1/3 open (max) raise $10 and the single $5 blind (max) raise $15?

The games aren't the same size.

Again I'm fine with either, but it's a different (larger) structure.

Max open in 1/3 is 12. So yes, the open for a single 5 is marginally larger, but with a 500 max buy in, the game is going to play very similar in size to a 1/3 structure, and we will speed up and simplify counting the pot pre-flop greatly.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:42 PM   #6397
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Max open in 1/3 is 12. So yes, the open for a single 5 is marginally larger, but with a 500 max, the game is going to play very similar in size to a 1/3 structure, imo.
oh the blinds count as 3-3? For some reason I don't remember that being the case. I guess it's because every time I've played it's been 1-2-5 open $15

It's been too long! We get 4 cards, right?
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:49 PM   #6398
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oh the blinds count as 3-3? For some reason I don't remember that being the case. I guess it's because every time I've played it's been 1-2-5 open $15

It's been too long! We get 4 cards, right?
Yes but you can only use 3 of them and 2 from the board
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:26 PM   #6399
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I agree that the size of 1/3 is right for an entry level game, but a single 5 dollar blind bet with the same buy in structure would be the same size game, and it would completely remove the question of white/blue and rounding, making it a much better structure, imo.
Ok in this case i like it. Red chip game all day. But how would we play bigger when the option presents itself? 2/5? 5/5? One blind of 10?
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:05 PM   #6400
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The only problem with the 1/3 structure imo, is that if you have 3 way action to a flop on a limped pot, there is only $9 in the pot. Therefore any pot sized bet post flop would be $5. You mind as well not see a flop and just do a 3way chop. Waste of time.
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