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Old 11-02-2011, 12:19 PM   #6201
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Any further information on the Parx WPT? Dates, buy-in of Main Event, etc?
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:21 PM   #6202
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

why are the chips at this place so gd dirty. i thought there was alot of dirt and dead skin on my mouse, but the red chips at parx take the cake
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:16 PM   #6203
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Parx chips dirty? I guess you have never played at the Taj. IMO there is a long way to go before Parx chips are classified as dirty.
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Old 11-02-2011, 08:23 PM   #6204
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Parx chips dirty? I guess you have never played at the Taj. IMO there is a long way to go before Parx chips are classified as dirty.
+1. Yeah, I actually thought parx's chips were decently clean compared to most other places on the northern east coast. They still have that slightly new feel to them where the edges are still nice & crisp and not grinded a bit.

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Only orange ten dollar chips and black 100 dollar chips play. Game runs a lot more smooth.
Cheers. I stopped by today and saw the game going, but didn't sit b/c they were initially playing short handed. (It did eventually fill up though.)

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Also, since most people are bad at poker, the extra $5 the SB has to post means you make more money in LP when you squeeze and steal pre-flop. Any time there is more dead money put up it benefits the players who can take advantage of it.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:12 AM   #6205
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Any further information on the Parx WPT? Dates, buy-in of Main Event, etc?
It's not till February, so it will be a while before we see any information. I think we can safely assume that it will be a $3500 ME
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Old 11-03-2011, 02:41 PM   #6206
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Brandon/Ari,

Last night at 10/10 Brandon came by and let us know that you guys were waiting on approval from the PGCB to let cash play (presumably only $100's) in the high limit area. I think I speak for a number of regulars when I say this would be a bad rule. Yes, many people get frustrated when they get stacked and can't immediately buy back in. I do really like that you can't buy from the rack at Parx because it keeps the game moving quickly. Why should 8 people wait for 1 person to top up? The solution to this of course is to keep a few purples or pumpkins in your pocket. If not, just go to the cage or call a chip runner- its not a big deal.

First, having cash plays reminds everyone, good players and bad players, that we are playing for real money. When you throw out $1000 in hundred dollar bills its much different from throwing out a purple and five blacks. The former reminds people that $1000 can buy real things while the latter makes it seem more like a game. This is why online poker was so lucrative. It seemed even more like a game and people became very casual about just clicking buttons for high amounts of money.

Second, having cash play does have utility. It makes sense for cash to play in very high stakes games where stacks are regularly over $10k (25/50, 200/400+ mixed). In these settings, players who don't have boxes don't want to run into CTR's upon cashing out so having a lot of cash in play is a good thing. Despite the fact that these games don't run at Parx (100/200 mixed has run a few times), there are pretty few really casual players at these stakes anyways and the ones that are casual are usually pretty wealthy.

There's a chance I'm overreacting to the effect of this in my head but I do know a few people who share my views. I'll try to see if I can find more.
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Old 11-03-2011, 02:55 PM   #6207
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

There are advantages to having cash play. When a guy is forced to go to the cage to reload (or wait for a chip runner), he may change his mind and instead decide to leave. Allowing cash to play means he doesn't get to miss a hand.

My main gripe with cash is that it's difficult to tell how much someone has. I don't answer people when they ask how much I'm playing mid-hand (people should do it in between hands or at least preflop). With cash on the table, people are going to be asking a lot more often.
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:19 PM   #6208
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My main gripe with cash is that it's difficult to tell how much someone has. I don't answer people when they ask how much I'm playing mid-hand (people should do it in between hands or at least preflop). With cash on the table, people are going to be asking a lot more often.
+1. i never answer people either, but like to let the chip stack speak for themselves. i also think cash creates problems because you can't tell how much someone has and a person shouldnt have to ask 'how much you got' every time - ive seen times where the bills folded and behind the stacks so you can't see that they're there or are so flat you can't see how many there are. sometimes you dont want to ask 'how much you have' and should be able to casually look over at a stack to get a feel for the chips. also, its easier for people to go south with bills than w/ chips.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:03 PM   #6209
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

I like that they don't sell from the rack an there are no fills at parx too. People busting and not being able to get a hand right away is not ideal though. I don't understand why they don't let players be dealt in from behind. There is no logical reason not to do this.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:04 PM   #6210
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Just wondering, how many levels are allowed for late entry for the daily tourneys? Can I assume its similar to Borgata(2 levels)?
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:00 PM   #6211
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Hello Ari,

Can you have 50k freerolls every single month. The room is much more full and the action is way better when there is a freeroll promotion. I can't imagine a freeroll doesnt increase business more than the 50k it cost. One more thing, why doesnt the poker room have wifi? It's a horsetrack with advanced telecommunications for christ sake.

the 50k is coming out of the BBJ i'd imagine ?


cash on nlhe = fail. What happens when someone misrepresents a wad of 100's? or they aren't real?
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:09 PM   #6212
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There is no BBJ.
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:04 PM   #6213
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Since no one else has mentioned it here...

Congrats Parx poker room on your one-year anniversary!
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:15 PM   #6214
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Just wondering, how many levels are allowed for late entry for the daily tourneys? Can I assume its similar to Borgata(2 levels)?
I believe it's 2 levels. Rushing down Route 1 from central NJ trying to make it by 7:40 after work sure was fun the times I did it.

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Congrats Parx poker room on your one-year anniversary!
Good catch sir. I think all poker players have to appreciate Parx. Its location alone is a boon to many. However, their willingness to listen to the players and implement their ideas in a short time frame as well many of their own improvements has ready made an impression on me, and hopefully many other players. Here's to the continued success of Parx in the next year and beyond!
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:00 AM   #6215
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What if cash were allowed to play, but only for a few hands (after busting) while a chip runner was called? Seems that this would almost certainly be a net positive by increasing the probability of keeping people in the game and minimizing the negative effect that ashinynickel describes. It could also be a transitional way to test how players react to occasionally and briefly having cash in play.
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:58 AM   #6216
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What if cash were allowed to play, but only for a few hands (after busting) while a chip runner was called? Seems that this would almost certainly be a net positive by increasing the probability of keeping people in the game and minimizing the negative effect that ashinynickel describes. It could also be a transitional way to test how players react to occasionally and briefly having cash in play.
That is pretty much the same as letting players play from behind.

Say someone busts, they pull out the cash and tell the dealer they are buying in for x amount, the dealer announces 8 seat is X Behind, and everyone knows. If they need to put chips in the pot before the runner gets back with chips someone next to them slides them chips and now they are playing a bit behind too till the runner gets back. This works seamlessly in the places (LV and DE) that I've played that do it, Parx is a well run room with well trained staff, they should be able to implement it no problem.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #6217
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Please dont let cash play, games play fast and everything ash said. Also people don't even sit out when they bust since some reg always has chips in their pocket.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:36 PM   #6218
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Brandon/Ari,

Last night at 10/10 Brandon came by and let us know that you guys were waiting on approval from the PGCB to let cash play (presumably only $100's) in the high limit area. I think I speak for a number of regulars when I say this would be a bad rule. Yes, many people get frustrated when they get stacked and can't immediately buy back in. I do really like that you can't buy from the rack at Parx because it keeps the game moving quickly. Why should 8 people wait for 1 person to top up? The solution to this of course is to keep a few purples or pumpkins in your pocket. If not, just go to the cage or call a chip runner- its not a big deal.

First, having cash plays reminds everyone, good players and bad players, that we are playing for real money. When you throw out $1000 in hundred dollar bills its much different from throwing out a purple and five blacks. The former reminds people that $1000 can buy real things while the latter makes it seem more like a game. This is why online poker was so lucrative. It seemed even more like a game and people became very casual about just clicking buttons for high amounts of money.

Second, having cash play does have utility. It makes sense for cash to play in very high stakes games where stacks are regularly over $10k (25/50, 200/400+ mixed). In these settings, players who don't have boxes don't want to run into CTR's upon cashing out so having a lot of cash in play is a good thing. Despite the fact that these games don't run at Parx (100/200 mixed has run a few times), there are pretty few really casual players at these stakes anyways and the ones that are casual are usually pretty wealthy.

There's a chance I'm overreacting to the effect of this in my head but I do know a few people who share my views. I'll try to see if I can find more.
I understand the psychology you are talking about having cash play at the table but IMO the positives out weigh the negatives to not implement the rule. By allowing cash play, this will cure the problem of players wanting to play the next hand after they bust. As much as we do emphasize players to keep an extra buy in or two in big denomination chips w their initial buy in ITT, it is not a standard practice by most rec players. This also allows topping off to be easier and let's the table know you are doing so more visably rather than palming a pumpkin and casually putting it on your stack. Yes, people pay attention to cash more than a piece of plastic and that is why cash should be allowed.

Parx always had that "west coast" casino feel to it and by allowing cash to play, it will be the only casino in the east to have it. There is nothing cooler than scooping a pot with $100 bills in it.

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Old 11-04-2011, 03:32 PM   #6219
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Parx always had that "west coast" casino feel to it and by allowing cash to play, it will be the only casino in the east to have it. There is nothing cooler than scooping a pot with $100 bills in it.
Mohegan Sun allows it as well.
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:54 PM   #6220
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Also gonna get way more people asking how much you playing. Don't want people talking like some tourney player.
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:01 PM   #6221
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Anyone down for PLO tonight?
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:13 PM   #6222
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Anyone down for PLO tonight?
id prolly be down if it could be a full table...how many r on the list right now?
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:40 PM   #6223
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I'm not there yet so I wouldn't know. Im hoping for a full table for the sake of longevity of the game although I prefer short handed.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:11 PM   #6224
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add another vote for allowing people to play behind but not allowing cash to play otherwise. I've made too many calls/folds in other rooms that I wouldn't have made if I could have seen the bill flat on the table and/or behind the chips.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:31 PM   #6225
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How's the 10-10NL game there? I heard it was a good game. Does Cash play yet?
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