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Old 09-14-2011, 12:25 AM   #5851
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

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First, this is my first post regarding parx. I've gone maybe a dozen times so far and like the room. I've see some marked improvement and they really seem interested in providing a quality product. More waitresses would be nice but I'll leave that for another post...

But, does Parx have a "must show if called" rule? Do any/most casinos have this rule?

I like this rule because it makes the final river bet meaningful. You can pay to see a players hand for future information if they make a silly min bet on the river. For a raiser it adds the pressure of having to show down a hand.

Mostly, at parx though I think it would speed up the game. There were SEVERAL times on Saturday night where two 'novice' players, after making river bets/calls just stared at each other. FOR A WHILE! Sometimes, it was a bluff losing to a small pair, or small pair beating a draw. Either way, it seemed like their hands were always weak and either player would have rather mucked.

I lost count of the amount of times I heard the dealer say: "Someone show me a winner..." Or a bettor showing a single card for middle/bottom pair. "Both cards please..."

If the person being called was compelled to show when called, it would save a lot of time. Thoughts?
yeah the rule at parx is this:

on the river if someone bets and is called they must show first...on the river if it goes check check, the person in the SB or closest shows first and it goes in order of position.

dealers are in a bit of a quandry here because if someone doesn't want to show they don't want to upset the person and say "your turn to show" to the person who's turn it is. a few actually do enforce the rule and tell the person but it is a minority.

i'd just let it go honestly...there are so many things about live poker that make it slow and this is just one of the many...you won't be able to stop all of them and you're gonna drive yourself insane. just accept this as part of live poker (like disconnects in internet poker) and don't let it get to you.

if i am in a hand however and i call on the river or i am last to show, i usually just wait patiently or remind the person "i called you" or something like that. sometimes (prob less than 10% of the time) i really want to see their hand and when they say "you win" i will say "i was hoping i'd win" and still not show. this is kind of rare but i do it sometimes if i am bluff catching and i think it's my right since part of my call factors in the times i lose and get a read. but usually i just fastroll the river.
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:32 AM   #5852
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

It's a combination of player and dealer responsibility. The dealer should remind the players to table their hands quickly and many do this well. But the players also should show some responsibility by tabling quickly even if you are the one that called the bet. If the other guy is waiting just show, if he was the one that bet and doesn't snap table you're probably good anyway why hold up the next hand?

Also I don't get why people are scared to table bluffs. It's really good for your image I usually table bluffs just as fast as value bets.

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have you guys seen the new http://www.parxcasino.com/gamereport.. i really like how it gives a report or all table games in the casino...
Looks good in web browser, but I can't load it on my iPhone which is what I have most often used to view the game report in the past.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:15 AM   #5853
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Also that 2/3 game sounds awesome if it's real.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:23 AM   #5854
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When you bet on the river and are called it's your responsibility to flip over your cards.Not "You have me"...."I missed"...I have a six" Flip over your hand.
The dealers should be instructed to tell the bettor you were called show your hand.The person calling paid to see your hand !
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:59 AM   #5855
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Also that 2/3 game sounds awesome if it's real.
Is real. There is a sign at the front podium & I spoke with the day time shift manager. Should be awesome.
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:03 AM   #5856
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Is real. There is a sign at the front podium & I spoke with the day time shift manager. Should be awesome.
So the question was never really answered, does that mean that you HAVE to buy in for exactly $300 ??
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:07 AM   #5857
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Yup saw the sign today. It is exactly 300 buyin. I like it
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:07 AM   #5858
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I like the idea of 2/3...

You guys think it is better to be min 300, max 500?
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:39 AM   #5859
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I like the idea of 2/3...

You guys think it is better to be min 300, max 500?
I was talking to Brandon (bnavata) about it yesterday and he said he thought it should be 3/5 and that it probably would be. That makes a lot more sense to me as an intermediary step between 1/2 and 2/5.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:42 AM   #5860
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I was talking to Brandon (bnavata) about it yesterday and he said he thought it should be 3/5 and that it probably would be. That makes a lot more sense to me as an intermediary step between 1/2 and 2/5.
I hope so. All other games here have at least 150BB, and should make an excellent deep game.
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:34 PM   #5861
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

RE: Showdowns...

Thanks for the reply guys. I wasn't letting it get to me. It was pissing off the dealers and assumed that because they weren't saying anything it wasn't a house rule.

+1 on a 1/3 300 min/max buy-in.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:13 PM   #5862
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

Currently:

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Buy In Min/Max amounts:

1/2 NLHE is 60-300,
2/5 NLHE is 200-1000,
Adding

1/3 NLH at 300-300

is totally inconsistent. The min has to be smaller, and the max should be 500.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:16 PM   #5863
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Adding

1/3 NLH at 300-300

is totally inconsistent. The min has to be smaller, and the max should be 500.
I like the 100BB min and would play it just for that. Can't we have one game free of short-stacking POSes?
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:22 PM   #5864
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I like the 100BB min and would play it just for that. Can't we have one game free of short-stacking POSes?
You want to get rid of them? They are almost always the easiest players to beat.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:00 PM   #5865
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Hey Ari,

Can you put the Floyd Mayweather fight on in the poker room Saturday night? This poker room gobbles up 10 million+ per year. I think some ppv boxing is in order.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:07 PM   #5866
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You want to get rid of them? They are almost always the easiest players to beat.
+1

I love the shorties, and I'm not sold on the 300/300 buy in.. the 2/3 should probably be 300/500 as mentioned....

Cool idea but I think in theory there would be a larger group of solid players. I can't see too many fish buying in at those levels.

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I was talking to Brandon (bnavata) about it yesterday and he said he thought it should be 3/5 and that it probably would be. That makes a lot more sense to me as an intermediary step between 1/2 and 2/5.
How would 3/5 be in between 1/2 and 2/5 ? it's higher than 2/5
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:35 PM   #5867
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I think this game will be similar to Commerce's 500NL game where the blinds are 5/10....the game is one of the best games around
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:07 PM   #5868
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Re: Parx Casino (Bensalem, PA) -- FAQ updated 2011.09.08

500 max 1/2 game would make 2/5 a lot crappier. I'd be so sad
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:26 PM   #5869
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+1

I love the shorties, and I'm not sold on the 300/300 buy in.. the 2/3 should probably be 300/500 as mentioned....

Cool idea but I think in theory there would be a larger group of solid players. I can't see too many fish buying in at those levels.



How would 3/5 be in between 1/2 and 2/5 ? it's higher than 2/5
sorry my short hand was confusing, I meant buy in levels 300/500.
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Old 09-14-2011, 04:53 PM   #5870
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It should be:

$1-$3NL $100-$500
$2-$5NL $200-$1000

They should also reduce the rake to $4 max. If you decrease price 20%, but increase business more than 25%, you make more money. This would increase business 50% for sure. There wouldnt be any reason to play $2-$5NL in Atlantic City. Parx Casino would be poker heaven.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:07 PM   #5871
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They should also reduce the rake to $4 max. If you decrease price 20%, but increase business more than 25%, you make more money. This would increase business 50% for sure. There wouldnt be any reason to play $2-$5NL in Atlantic City. Parx Casino would be poker heaven.

Please stop, we get it, you don't like $5 dollar max rake. Posting it every few days isn't going to do anything except get you put on block. Parx went from zero to the 2nd highest grossing poker room on the EC in under a year, so I doubt they are looking for business consulting from you and your SWAG numbers.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:11 PM   #5872
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Please stop, we get it, you don't like $5 dollar max rake. Posting it every few days isn't going to do anything except get you put on block. Parx went from zero to the 2nd highest grossing poker room on the EC in under a year, so I doubt they are looking for business consulting from you and your SWAG numbers.
+1 on this. This room has done more in a year than you can imagine (WPT coming in 2012), so stop complaining about everything. We don't live in a perfect world, so accept it.
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:04 PM   #5873
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Are the $10 chips in yet? One happy medium, since the 15/30 Mixed Game doesn't seem to have taken off, is to go 10/20. That seems to work in AC.
I'd like to see either an 8/16 or 10/20 mixed game. But, will Ari be willing to spread it ?
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:23 PM   #5874
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I am going to be in town this weekend and will be playing poker for sure but my question is related to video poker. Can anyone here tell me how must cash in you need to earn 1 point. They have a sign up promo for new players and I am trying to calculate if the ev is worth the promo.

I also read on the first page that o8 runs regularly, Is this still the case? What limits run on a Friday night and what time do the tables break?
anyone?
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:37 PM   #5875
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anyone?
http://parx.phil.ly/
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