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Old 07-12-2011, 10:11 PM   #5251
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Re: PARX Poker Thread -- FAQ updated 2011.06.21

Interesting occurrence Monday morning.
I got to the room early and there was only 1/2 going, and a HU 5/10. I wasn't going to play 3 handed 5/10 because I'm not good enough. Then I saw it was 2 2/5 players playing, only about 1k deep so I joined. Turns out they were playing 5/10 just so they wouldn't have to pay rake. 3 handed at 5/10 we paid $9/half combined instead of about (guestimate)$75/half. Floor wouldn't let us pay time and play 2/5.
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:03 AM   #5252
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hows that 6/12 oe going? and if i have a harrahs diamond card can i upgrade parx card?
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:28 AM   #5253
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hows that 6/12 oe going? and if i have a harrahs diamond card can i upgrade parx card?
Goes all the time, as far as in the poker room all cards are the same. The only benefit of bringing another casinos card is going to the casino building first before the card room to get a card made and getting $75 slot/egames credit.
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:50 AM   #5254
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313 for the 7pm tourney tonight
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:55 AM   #5255
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I am so impressed with the turn outs on these tournaments. It puts Chester's efforts at getting a $100+ weekly tournament off the ground to shame.

Can't wait for the August tournament series. They should seriously just copy Borgata structures for when it comes time for real tournaments though.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:09 AM   #5256
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Ari,
I know its the first tournament series and schedule has been made but can we get an Omaha h/l limit or O/E or PLO added or at least kept in mind for next series. I'm sure it would get some players. 300-500 would probably be a good buyin range for it. If I saw the correct schedule when I was there over the weekend it was all NL and 1 LHE.
Thanks for running a great room.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:04 AM   #5257
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btw, don't know for sure if this is new news, but the rumor is that Parx will be hosting 4 WPT tournies a year, one of them televised. (This first one in August will not be a WPT tourny.)
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:25 AM   #5258
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btw, don't know for sure if this is new news, but the rumor is that Parx will be hosting 4 WPT tournies a year, one of them televised. (This first one in August will not be a WPT tourny.)
That would be spectacular. I hope this rumor is true!
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:44 AM   #5259
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Be up there today about noon. Hope to see Ari.
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:05 PM   #5260
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I don't believe it's a PA rule.

It's a Parx rule, and it's a good one. First, the Parx trays aren't that big and don't hold a lot of money - just enough to manage rake for a down or two. Second, dealers don't need to stop and sell chips from their trays every few hands. Third, because the trays can be kept stocked with small denom chips and none of those chips get changed for cash, both these things combine to make fills happen much less frequently than in a room that sells chips.

It would be nice if cash played, at least temporarily (allowing other players to sell a stack or two of working chips to a player while they wait for the chip runner), but as mentioned, if someone at the table just keeps a couple of black chips in a pocket, you can be "the banker" for the whole table and keep the game running quickly for everyone.
Why is this a good rule again? Why should I as a player feel like I need to have extra chips in my pocket to change other players - thats not my job, its the house's job. Someone who just busted has to wait a hand (or more) and get a chance to cool down, but you can't wait 30 seconds every now and then for a fill to happen?

Not to mention, as others have said, how many times do people just get up and leave when frustrated because they can't get chips easily?

Any reg who isn't in favor of a rule that helps keep fish around isn't a very good reg! lol
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:25 PM   #5261
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Saw the betting out of turn angle applied 3 times last night in 4 hrs at 1/2. Seems to be used most on timid women. We had a guy in a pot with a lady, both of them betting away all the way the river. Then he jumps out with a huge out of turn bet on the river and she just looks at him and mucks without even checking to him. Something needs to be done about this b/c it's happening way too frequently. I said something to the last guy that did it and he kinda shook me off as if to say it's all a part of the game and I guess it kind of is, but I could do without it.
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:52 PM   #5262
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Saw the betting out of turn angle applied 3 times last night in 4 hrs at 1/2. Seems to be used most on timid women. We had a guy in a pot with a lady, both of them betting away all the way the river. Then he jumps out with a huge out of turn bet on the river and she just looks at him and mucks without even checking to him. Something needs to be done about this b/c it's happening way too frequently. I said something to the last guy that did it and he kinda shook me off as if to say it's all a part of the game and I guess it kind of is, but I could do without it.
the dealer is supposed to call the floor and give them a warning the first time...especially if it was done on purpose..second time they get booted for a day and next time they are out i think...if it's really really blatant i'd call the floor or ask the dealer to. dont argue with the person who did it..just calmly tell the floor what you saw and let him/her decide
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Old 07-13-2011, 05:02 PM   #5263
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Played some 1/2 yesterday morning/afternoon, I now know what is meant by old, nitty regulars. Not ragging on them, just used to the night/weekend vibe.
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Old 07-13-2011, 05:48 PM   #5264
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TR, albeit short. I work for a living, much to many people's surprise. Poker, therefore, is something that I fit into my work schedule. Well, as a real poker degen, it could be that I juggle my job into my poker schedule. I'll have to consider that. I've been to Parx a number of times, most recently about a month and a half ago. I liked Parx then and like it more now. I'm not sure why. Maybe they're better than they were, but they were good before. It could be the atmosphere which is very comfortable. There seems to be a lot of work going on resurfacing tables and possibly changing them out altogether. Upgrades such as this are indicative of strong managers with customer concerns and comfort at the top of the priority list, Of course, I know what kind of room Ari runs, so no surprise. Can you imagine the Taj working on their tables after less than a year of use? Try five and then only maybe........but back to my TR and Parx.

I hoped to see Ari today and even went to the desk and asked to leave him a message. What to write was the problem. "Laymedown wants to say hello" seemed a little cheesy. He knows me by sight and two plus two ID, but he would have never recognized my name on my business card. I settled for talking to a floor manager who I've played with at another poker room. I'll call him D2 since his first name begins with that letter and I do believe that he is a shift supervisor. He's young though so maybe asst shift manager.......or maybe I'm old and everyone seems young...hmmmmm.

I could only stay for two hours. I made a few bucks mostly because I misread a guy who shouldn't have been playing poker in the first place for real money. He raised pre flop to $12.00 with a little more than $100 in front. I flated from the BB....prolly should have three bet. When the board landed a 6 7 A rainbow, I was feeling good about my A Q hand. When he flatted my $30.00 bet, I knew that his last $60 would be my bet on the turn. Ahhh well, it's about time the river was good to me when I make a mistake. I had him on A J or A10 or maybe 9 to J pp. Turns out he raised with 6 7 off and my river ace sealed that hand against his flopped two pair. , but who really cares about my poker hands. The point of this TR is to acknowledge the extremely high quality of the room at Parx. I ended up missing Ari altogether.

By the time I had to leave at 2:30 there was both a 6/12 OE and 30/60 HOE game open. Parx is a poker room that compares extremely favorably to all the rooms I've ever had the pleasure to visit and is better than everything I've played outside of Vegas save for the Borgata. My home is Delaware Park where I am a regular. Unfortunately, they'll never have the player base to spread the diversity of games that a room such as Parx and the Borgata can. I tire of the NLHE grind sometimes and like to mix it up. Rooms that offer a diversity of games and who obviously care about the comfort of their players are the places I want to play in.

Fast and courteous desk, floor and chip runners. I was seated in ten seconds and playing at a new table the moment I walked in. The action was good and though there were some decent players at my table, there was also some money to be made.

BTW, my table was not nitty at all. One poor guy was giving his money away and most players always knew what he had. He was the oldest at the table. I felt sorry for him. He wasn't nitty, but he should learn that style, as it would work better for him. I will say there was a surprising amount of out of turn betting, but I don't think it was angle shots as much as inexperience.

Did I start this thing out saying "short"?

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Old 07-13-2011, 06:02 PM   #5265
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the dealer is supposed to call the floor and give them a warning the first time...especially if it was done on purpose..second time they get booted for a day and next time they are out i think...if it's really really blatant i'd call the floor or ask the dealer to. dont argue with the person who did it..just calmly tell the floor what you saw and let him/her decide
Right. A lot of the dealers are too passive about calling the floor, so if they won't do it and won't warn the player, it's probably best to call the floor unless it was obviously an accident. A while back in a 4-8 or 8-16 game, a player would sometimes check out of turn, inducing players behind him to also check out of turn, and then when it was actually his turn to act, the player would bet. Another player and I pointed out to the dealer that in almost all rooms, you can't change a check to a bet when you've induced other players to check behind, but the dealer didn't even respond. I didn't make a big deal out of it because the checking out of turn guy was a horrible player and it only happened a couple times, but the dealer should really warn the player not to do that.

Another issue I recently saw with a dealer refusing to call the floor--the shuffle machine's red light lit and the dealer ignored it. A player at the table politely pointed out that the light was on, and the dealer said "Oh, that just means it's jammed, it doesn't matter." After it happened the 3rd time or so, the other player and I both said she should really call the floor, and she got pretty argumentative with us. Eventually one of the players got the idea to check the one loose spot of the rail (one of the 4-8 tables towards the front, 6 or 7, has a very loose rail where cards sometimes slide under) because there was a hand not long before where a player was only dealt one card, and lo and behold, that card had slid under the rail and we'd played about 5 hands with 51 cards in the deck because the dealer ignored the red light. You'd think at that point she'd have apologized for ignoring the problem, but no, she just continued to explain that the red light just usually means its jammed.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:13 PM   #5266
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BTW, I saw they were training new cocktail waitresses when I was there yesterday. I hope this means they'll have more working at any given hour. Ari and crew have been great about improving things that people on here have pointed out, so hopefully this is another case.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:37 PM   #5267
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Saw the betting out of turn angle applied 3 times last night in 4 hrs at 1/2. Seems to be used most on timid women. We had a guy in a pot with a lady, both of them betting away all the way the river. Then he jumps out with a huge out of turn bet on the river and she just looks at him and mucks without even checking to him. Something needs to be done about this b/c it's happening way too frequently. I said something to the last guy that did it and he kinda shook me off as if to say it's all a part of the game and I guess it kind of is, but I could do without it.
It is NOT "all a part of the game" and many casinos have rules in place to make the action binding. Others at least give warnings.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:41 PM   #5268
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Re: PARX Poker Thread -- FAQ updated 2011.06.21

Nice spread right now:

$30-60 H.O.E. 1
$4-8 Limit Hold'em 1
$15-30 Limit Holdem 3
$1-2 No Limit Hold'em 13
$2-5 No Limit Hold'em 4
$5-10 No Limit Holdem 1
$6-12 O/E 1
$1-3 Pot Limit Omaha 1
$2-5 Pot Limit Omaha 1
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:58 PM   #5269
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btw, don't know for sure if this is new news, but the rumor is that Parx will be hosting 4 WPT tournies a year, one of them televised. (This first one in August will not be a WPT tourny.)
This is true. The 1st WPT event will be in January, probably immediately after the Borgata WPT event.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:15 AM   #5270
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Why is this a good rule again? Why should I as a player feel like I need to have extra chips in my pocket to change other players - thats not my job, its the house's job. Someone who just busted has to wait a hand (or more) and get a chance to cool down, but you can't wait 30 seconds every now and then for a fill to happen?

Not to mention, as others have said, how many times do people just get up and leave when frustrated because they can't get chips easily?

Any reg who isn't in favor of a rule that helps keep fish around isn't a very good reg! lol
Parx does 2 things very very badly. This is one of them.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:27 AM   #5271
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just had a thought that might help a few issues actually..

If we really want a 2p2 voice to be heard at Parx, this thread is not the way to do it...there is no way we should expect Ari (or other parx management) to sift through all of this BS for what amounts to be a small percentage of their clientele. It's also clientele that in some ways is bad for parx because really they don't want people sucking money out of the games..

anyway...what if we elect someone and ask Ari for a scheduled 10 minute face to face talk with him monthly...say that person on the 1st of each month PMs Ari and schedules a 10 minute appointment. then he relays everything we are whining about on here...including giving opinions that he might disagree with (but of course our "representative" can say "people are saying such and such...but i think it's a bad idea")

anyway maybe we'll get answers such as "we are not going to have a 1/3 game ever" and then the debate can end on here and we can argue about the bathrooms or something...hopefully Ari or another manager will agree to do this.

I think in return for his time, a cocktail waitress of his choosing should give him a private lapdance over in the never-used video blackjack section. It will be up to the "representative" to hammer out those details.

I'll go first. I nominate Nummy Yummy or BriMC.
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Old 07-14-2011, 07:40 AM   #5272
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I think in return for his time, a cocktail waitress of his choosing should give him a private lapdance over in the never-used video blackjack section. It will be up to the "representative" to hammer out those details.QUOTE]

lol, the e-machines are such a waste of space... you can put almost anything else in that space and it would be +ev for the room
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:13 AM   #5273
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They have to put the machines there because of PA regulation about the ratio of poker tables to total tables in the entire casino. That's what a dealer told me.

Spacecakezzz, Ari certainly values our opinions. 2p2ers, big winners or not, put in a lot of volume and keep games running and rake flowing. That's what poker rooms want. We are also more vocal to management/floor about what we want because of our experiences at other casinos and because of how much time we spend at the room. I think the idea is good FWIW.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:14 AM   #5274
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Any word on satty's to the ME in August ?
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:24 AM   #5275
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The e-tables are definitely there to increase the number of poker tables that they can have. And more to the point, I have started to see people using them when taking a break at the bar.

Ari and Br. do read this thread, as do many of the dealers. IMO there's no need for any sort of 10 minute monthly meeting to rehash all the same **** that they already know about. Not to mention that it is very, very hard to successfully represent all the opinions expressed on here, especially given that half of them are at odds with each other.

If you feel strongly about something, just go talk to the shift supervisor when you're there.
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