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Old 04-20-2011, 09:01 AM   #4101
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Great time on Sat. Made money and got yelled at by the guy I felted for checking my flopped Ace's full of jacks. "Why in the **** would you check that?"
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:10 AM   #4102
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haha i thought the same thing, i left sat night during that storm and was ****ing soaked
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:43 AM   #4103
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...so i lose a huge pot and stacked off in the UTG position, and i immediately go get some more chips from the cage, which is about 10' away from my table. i was gone for less than 30 seconds, but the dealer began dealing the next hand, and he failed to deal me in, even though i said "$500 behind, be right back." okay, fine...maybe he didn't hear me. but after the button passes, he tells me i have to post. ???

so for any dealers who might read this, here's a little tip: if you make me post after i get stacked, even though i was only gone for a few seconds to buy more chips, i can promise you that my $5 post will be coming out of your toke box.
Not dealing you in when you don't have chips and leaving the table to get chips is fine and perfectly normal. Having to post is terrible but there are a few casino that do enforce this. Why did you not call for the floor for a clarification? Because
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In my opinion, you're right. At Parx I've been told that if a player busts and re-buys then he/she does not need to post missed blinds.
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Here is a little tip for you: Parx currently has a strict rule that you can't play from behind and must have chips on the table to be dealt cards. ...
Next time maybe look to improve your owe play so you don't get felted.
Bold part is totally uncalled for here. He could have done everything right and still lost. Poker is not 100% skill. It is a mix of skill and luck. (And it is own not owe.)

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nowhere did i say anything about "playing from behind." the issue i take with the dealers is when they tell me i have to post the big blind after i just got felted. the whole reason i missed my blinds is because parx doesn't allow me to rebuy at the table! and the chip runners are too slow, so the fastest way to buy more chips is to run to the cage. but no cashier is fast enough to get you back to the table in time for your big blind. in this situation, a player should not have to post. and if a dealer makes me do it, then it's going to cost him, not me. comprendé?
You did say "$500 behind, be right back." in your OP. But continuing to read your post, it seems you were okay with being dealt out while getting chips. I would be interested to know if you had used a runner, would you have still been required to post by this dealer? But alas, that will forever remain a mystery,

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You said you mentioned to the dealer that you were "$500 behind" before proceeding to the cage. Call it what you want...

Sir I believe I understood your issue quite well. You feel that players don't need to post any of the blinds if they miss any because they step away to reload on chips because they were felted. When the dealer asks you repost you feel you should be given a "free ride" not to post and to compensate for the dealer doing his job you will then take it out of the tips the dealer could possible earn moving forward. Plus you feel that the "slow" chip runners should be stationed personally right next to you to instantly allow you to reload on chips so that you would not miss a hand. lol. Then again the cashier should instantly have your stack waiting for you...lol
As said, most casinos do not required felted players to post. Should he have asked a floor for clarification? Yes. But whatever his issue, he has the right to tip or not tip for any reason.
He never said the chip runners should be right there or for the cashier to instantly give him a stack. He said he went because it would be faster to do it himself (to paraphrase) and he is probably right.

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Am I right with the above assesment?
No you are not. You appear to be the only one reading that way (to quote one person):

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In my opinion, you're right. At Parx I've been told that if a player busts and re-buys then he/she does not need to post missed blinds.

The part about the $500 behind, Parx doesn't allow that, but you don't seem to be much bothered about that anyway.

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Its players like you who give the other 99.9% of poker players a bad name. Always bitching, complaining and pointing the blame at others around you because you feel you are entitled to certain treatment. Please if you can't play by the rules that are in the poker room stick to your home games that allows you to bend them at will.
He has the right to complain if he is not being treated like everyone else. Again most casinos do not require posting if you get felted and miss blinds immediately after and Parx is one of them (see above). Now if he busted, walked away for 1/2 hour or more and came back, he should have to post. But to be required to post because he went to the cage for chips and came right back is wrong especially as it appears that is not Parx's policy on a situation like this. Why your hostile attitude?
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:52 AM   #4104
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wtf @ the parking lot. i'm pretty sure i was looking at dinosaur footprints...
Lol! It's pretty terrible. You can avoid the potholes if you park immediately to the left when you pull in...don't drive up and down the rows for a closer spot or your car might plummet down to the earth's core.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:01 AM   #4105
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Regarding the issue of being required to post or not after being felted, players who are always prepared with a second buy-in of chips when felted would be punished $5 if the rule was that if you have chips, you post, but if you're in the process of getting more chips, you can get a free hand after the button.
This would be pretty unfair.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:05 AM   #4106
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What is the min and max buyin for all of the NL games at the Parx. 1-2, 2-5, 5-10, and anything higher?
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:11 AM   #4107
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Again most casinos do not require posting if you get felted and miss blinds immediately after and Parx is one of them (see above). Now if he busted, walked away for 1/2 hour or more and came back, he should have to post. But to be required to post because he went to the cage for chips and came right back is wrong especially as it appears that is not Parx's policy on a situation like this.
I am not sure I agree/believe that most casinos do not require missed blinds to be posted. Rather, what is more likely the case is that most casinos will allow the player to rebuy directly from the rack before the dealer begins the next hand, avoiding the problem (but slowing the game down for the remaining players). Or they allow cash to play, or allow playing behind. Even in these cases, if the player instead chooses to wait a hand or two before rebuying for whatever reason, they will get a missed blind button.

Even if is somehow true, as I mentioned above, I do not believe Parx is one of the casinos which follows the policy you suggest.

What if he had not been felted, but had been left with exactly $2. Does he have to post then if he leaves to get chips? Where exactly do you draw the line between those who have to post when missing their blind and those who don't?
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:43 AM   #4108
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What is the min and max buyin for all of the NL games at the Parx. 1-2, 2-5, 5-10, and anything higher?
60-300, 200-1000, 500-2000 , and 10/25nl can either be 1k min and no max or 2k min and no max
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:31 PM   #4109
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Alright thanks a lot.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:33 PM   #4110
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Plo nl mix was a good time for the 3 hours it ran boys and girls. Anyone down to rry and make it a regular game??
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:09 PM   #4111
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Plo nl mix was a good time for the 3 hours it ran boys and girls. Anyone down to rry and make it a regular game??
I would def play if I knew the game would be going
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:29 PM   #4112
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How many runners do the Tuesday/Saturday 230$ tournaments get?

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Old 04-20-2011, 11:45 PM   #4113
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How many runners do the Tuesday/Saturday 230$ tournaments get?

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Tournaments dont start until May
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:05 AM   #4114
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Plo nl mix was a good time for the 3 hours it ran boys and girls. Anyone down to try and make it a regular game??
Saw that $2/5 PLO/NLHE ran again last night. How long did it run last night? It would be pretty sick to make that a regular game. I would be happy to get it running twice a week.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:01 AM   #4115
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Can someone (Ari?) help me with an official ruling?

Hand: UTG raises. I 3bet MP, Btn flats. Utg calls.

Flop J82r. UTG checks. I bet, btn calls, utg calls.

Turn Tc (putting 2 clubs) UTG checks. I bet 155. Btn goes all in for 271.

UTG asks if he calls the 271, will I be allowed to raise?

So basically the question is, what is a "legal" raise that would allow me to reopen the action? I was under the impression that if he raises more than 1/2 of my bet (in this case at least 232ish) then I would be allowed to reraise.

The floor, who's name I didn't get, said that it needs to be at least an actual minraise. (310)

I'm heading to Parx now, but if anyone could give me an official ruling, thatd be great.

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Old 04-21-2011, 11:12 AM   #4116
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Can someone (Ari?) help me with an official ruling?

Hand: UTG raises. I 3bet MP, Btn flats. Utg calls.

Flop J82r. UTG checks. I bet, btn calls, utg calls.

Turn Tc (putting 2 clubs) UTG checks. I bet 155. Btn goes all in for 271.

UTG asks if he calls the 271, will I be allowed to raise?

So basically the question is, what is a "legal" raise that would allow me to reopen the action? I was under the impression that if he raises more than 1/2 of my bet (in this case at least 232ish) then I would be allowed to reraise.

The floor, who's name I didn't get, said that it needs to be at least an actual minraise. (310)

I'm heading to Parx now, but if anyone could give me an official ruling, thatd be great.

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The 1/2 bet rule is for limit poker, not NL. The ruling was correct from my experience.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:15 AM   #4117
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Can someone (Ari?) help me with an official ruling?

Hand: UTG raises. I 3bet MP, Btn flats. Utg calls.

Flop J82r. UTG checks. I bet, btn calls, utg calls.

Turn Tc (putting 2 clubs) UTG checks. I bet 155. Btn goes all in for 271.

UTG asks if he calls the 271, will I be allowed to raise?

So basically the question is, what is a "legal" raise that would allow me to reopen the action? I was under the impression that if he raises more than 1/2 of my bet (in this case at least 232ish) then I would be allowed to reraise.

The floor, who's name I didn't get, said that it needs to be at least an actual minraise. (310)

I'm heading to Parx now, but if anyone could give me an official ruling, thatd be great.

Thanks
The floors ruling was spot on. If you bet 135 instead it's a different story.

In limit the rule is slightly different were sometimes you can re-raise if an all-in places in over half the bet.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:39 AM   #4118
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Lol! It's pretty terrible. You can avoid the potholes if you park immediately to the left when you pull in...don't drive up and down the rows for a closer spot or your car might plummet down to the earth's core.
Also be extra careful of the potholes in inclement weather. More than one car actually got stuck in a pothole over the winter and I heard multiple people over the past few days talk about how they didn't notice a pothole on Saturday during the torrential rain. I guess "be careful of potholes in inclement weather" goes without saying but for those who haven't seen them, these are not ordinary potholes.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:43 AM   #4119
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i'd be down for the PLO/NLHE mix on a regular basis.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:49 AM   #4120
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P-bater, maybe you're thinking of the rule that a lot of casinos have in the following example:
Player A bets $60, player B throws out four green chips for $100, floor rules that it's a minraise rather than a call bc it is more than 1.5x the original bet? If he threw out $70, it would be a call.

The floor is def right in your example, must be complete raise to open up betting again.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:53 AM   #4121
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i'd be down for the PLO/NLHE mix on a regular basis.
I'm retiring from plo after only one session with you guys, enjoy the donation , but I know my bf will play whenever you can get the game going. Seems like there's enough interest to run this regularly imo.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:56 AM   #4122
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The floor is def right in your example, must be complete raise to open up betting again.
Can Ari confirm this ruling? ...doesn't seem right to me but I don't play NL too often. I am certain that in a number of places I have played a reraise was allowed as long as the raise was at least half of the initial bet--and this is in NL. Bet 20, all-in to 30, call, reraise allowed from initial bettor.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:57 AM   #4123
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Im headed to Parx after work probably around 4, def gotta watch out for those dino tracks that i fell into last week
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:35 PM   #4124
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Can Ari confirm this ruling? ...doesn't seem right to me but I don't play NL too often. I am certain that in a number of places I have played a reraise was allowed as long as the raise was at least half of the initial bet--and this is in NL. Bet 20, all-in to 30, call, reraise allowed from initial bettor.
Well, I am not Ari, but a full raise being required is the standard rule for NL. Coincidentally, I confirmed it was the rule at Parx with one of the floors just last week, after it came up during a 1-2 game I was sitting in while waiting for my regular game.

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Old 04-21-2011, 01:34 PM   #4125
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Yea I'm pretty sure it has to be at least a minimum raise to be reopen the action.

Also, it doesn't hurt to pay attention to stacks whether you do or don't want action to be reopened(Not criticizing Pastor, just making a general statement)
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