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Originally Posted by JONATHANM
Would you have a problem playing a 2-10 $2 BI stud game?
This has been discussed earlier in this thread and I think its a great idea.
Being the game is a pot builder, I see no reason why max rake wouldn't be achieved on almost every hand given the structure. Good for the house, good for the gamblers. Win win imo.
I'm the wrong person to ask about playing stud. I find it boring and slow. It's a good game for me, but I don't enjoy playing it. Under 10-20, the game is painfully boring, IMO. Stud-8 on the other hand - yum! People suck at that game. Like Omaha - it's a moneymaker. I even prefer when they drop stud from the HORSE rotation. I always sit out during the stud rounds
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Originally Posted by borzi
I understand where you are coming from in regards to the O.E. game. Having the bring in at $1 is good.
1) Now when a player completes the bet to $4. To call is $3 more. Not $2 like before.
To call a complete is the same as before - $4, regardless what the BI is.
If you already called the BI for $1 and it's 3 more, or if you already called a $2 bring and it's 2 more has the following implications:
A. You would be more inclined (and probably most of the time, correct) to fold to the complete, with a $1 call and 3 more to you.
B. You should call most of the time(unless you are really weak, both in hand and style) the complete, after calling the $2 bring.
In A, most people are folding to your completes and the dead $1 is not compensating for the times that you have a strong 2-way hand (where you want to build a large multi-way pot). This is bad for you.
In B, you are more liekly to get some followers, if it's only $2 more - not 3. And, if they fold, that is wrong (most of the time) and their $2 dead. This is good for you.
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Originally Posted by borzi
2) One dollar doesn't seem like alot...it is when calling with junk.
If you are not calling the $1 bring in, more than 80% of the time, you are playing wrong.
The $1 bring is wrong and bad for this game. As I said before, with a $1 bring, you have to play almost ATC (any three cards), because you are seldom an 8:1 dog. Seeing 4 cards for $1 when there is $8 in the middle is almost always automatic.
Most of the nits will fold, even the $1 bring, and will almost always fold to the complete, regardless of whether or not they initially called the bring. However, they are more inclined to overcall, when the pot appears to be large. When they don't call - they are playing incorrectly and that is good for you.
Bottom line, the $1 bring in makes nits play nittier. They do loosen up more, when the pots can get bigger and you want that. This is accomplished with the $2 bring in.
Also, from a structure perspective, for a $1 bring in to be correct, the game needs to be played with a $.50 ante. No one wants that.