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Old 01-22-2011, 07:23 PM   #3101
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:18 PM   #3102
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Are you effin kidding me????? This alone is turning the game into a game like 1-5 stud/no ante.

Would you have a problem playing a 2-10 $2 BI stud game?

This has been discussed earlier in this thread and I think its a great idea.

Being the game is a pot builder, I see no reason why max rake wouldn't be achieved on almost every hand given the structure. Good for the house, good for the gamblers. Win win imo.
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:52 PM   #3103
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I understand where you are coming from in regards to the O.E. game. Having the bring in at $1 is good.

1) Now when a player completes the bet to $4. To call is $3 more. Not $2 like before.
2) One dollar doesn't seem like alot...it is when calling with junk.

Good change for the game. Yes it makes the stud part slow and nitty.
That is why I always try and play O8 instead.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:13 PM   #3104
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Would you have a problem playing a 2-10 $2 BI stud game?

This has been discussed earlier in this thread and I think its a great idea.

Being the game is a pot builder, I see no reason why max rake wouldn't be achieved on almost every hand given the structure. Good for the house, good for the gamblers. Win win imo.
I'm the wrong person to ask about playing stud. I find it boring and slow. It's a good game for me, but I don't enjoy playing it. Under 10-20, the game is painfully boring, IMO. Stud-8 on the other hand - yum! People suck at that game. Like Omaha - it's a moneymaker. I even prefer when they drop stud from the HORSE rotation. I always sit out during the stud rounds

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I understand where you are coming from in regards to the O.E. game. Having the bring in at $1 is good.

1) Now when a player completes the bet to $4. To call is $3 more. Not $2 like before.
To call a complete is the same as before - $4, regardless what the BI is.

If you already called the BI for $1 and it's 3 more, or if you already called a $2 bring and it's 2 more has the following implications:

A. You would be more inclined (and probably most of the time, correct) to fold to the complete, with a $1 call and 3 more to you.
B. You should call most of the time(unless you are really weak, both in hand and style) the complete, after calling the $2 bring.

In A, most people are folding to your completes and the dead $1 is not compensating for the times that you have a strong 2-way hand (where you want to build a large multi-way pot). This is bad for you.

In B, you are more liekly to get some followers, if it's only $2 more - not 3. And, if they fold, that is wrong (most of the time) and their $2 dead. This is good for you.

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2) One dollar doesn't seem like alot...it is when calling with junk.
If you are not calling the $1 bring in, more than 80% of the time, you are playing wrong.

The $1 bring is wrong and bad for this game. As I said before, with a $1 bring, you have to play almost ATC (any three cards), because you are seldom an 8:1 dog. Seeing 4 cards for $1 when there is $8 in the middle is almost always automatic.

Most of the nits will fold, even the $1 bring, and will almost always fold to the complete, regardless of whether or not they initially called the bring. However, they are more inclined to overcall, when the pot appears to be large. When they don't call - they are playing incorrectly and that is good for you.

Bottom line, the $1 bring in makes nits play nittier. They do loosen up more, when the pots can get bigger and you want that. This is accomplished with the $2 bring in.

Also, from a structure perspective, for a $1 bring in to be correct, the game needs to be played with a $.50 ante. No one wants that.
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:22 PM   #3105
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Played 8/16 HOSE Saturday afternoon - started just before 3 PM, table was full with a waiting list for good 3 hours. Good mix of players.

At that time, there was open seating for 1/2 and 2/5 NL but a constant list for 4/8 O8 and OE. There is definitely interest, but only at certain times.

Still waiting to play PLO at Parx - guess I'm not there at the right time.

BTW, did somebody post that there was no problem with the parking lot in front of Parx East? I don't get to park in the PD spaces, but in the main area just in front the pot holes are HUGE. I followed a Priou in and it totally fell into the hole. It was good for me 'cos I could just drive over the roof of the car. Seriously, be careful at night, you might snap an axle.
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:27 PM   #3106
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^^ That would be my biggest complaint, more-so than the walking distance or the darkness. Those giant potholes are an absolute disgrace.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:32 AM   #3107
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Pretty much every day, from around 6-2 for 15-30. 8/16 is spottier.
You can always go here http://www.taeyeonkim.com/parx/ and select the game you want to see on the dropdown on the right. Then select a timeframe on the left (like 5 days). Slide the bar at the bottom to see when games tend to start and stop. Little slow this week with the weather and the Borgata WPO.
Slowest day is Monday by far, and ramps up slowly till Sat night, by Thursday you should see two games during prime time.
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:42 AM   #3108
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Angling maybe?

Your at 3k after grinding a 6 hour session. Angler sits, hiding a dirty 3k black stack ( w/ purples),or just a 2k black stack behind his 2 stacks of green. Villain is there for an orbit (including a dealer change). You and villain get tangled in a hand where he pushes your $150 bet on the flop. You snap call w/ your flopped set thinking he has just short of 1k and lose to his flopped straight....oops...he has 3900, not 900....insta-felted.
If I'm going to be getting involved in a big pot with anyone your damn right I'm going to know exactly how many chips my opponent has. The rule clearly states that you are allowed to ask how many chips anyone has at the table at any time. Its very easy to take the "angler" out of the equation. That was a mistake that could easily be avoided.
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:54 AM   #3109
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BTW, did somebody post that there was no problem with the parking lot in front of Parx East? I don't get to park in the PD spaces, but in the main area just in front the pot holes are HUGE. I followed a Priou in and it totally fell into the hole. It was good for me 'cos I could just drive over the roof of the car. Seriously, be careful at night, you might snap an axle.
No kidding, the potholes are gigantic! They need to do something about them.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:08 AM   #3110
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I hadn't seen these mythical potholes until this weekend. I was on my way out and saw the pothole in front of me and was just awestruck and stunned for a minute -- probably the way most people feel when they first lay eyes upon the Grand Canyon.

After a few seconds of analysis, there was absolutely no way to drive around it, and I didn't think I'd make it over it. I turned around and went out the other way. I can't imagine how much of a mess that is when the parking lot is busy.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:27 AM   #3111
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ahhh the pot holes...

Got to PARX around 11am on Saturday and spotted a primo spot right up front across from the handicapped parking in front of the building. Upon further examination I discovered a huge land mine must have blown leaving a huge crater so I had to abort trying to park there.

Yeah be careful. It's pretty dangerous to drive/walk especially in the dark.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:52 AM   #3112
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Well... you're not gonna like this, but...

Have you ever noticed that parts of the parking lot are always wet? Even after days of sunshine and no rain (or melting show piles).

This condition is almost always caused by one (or both) of two things:

1. there is an underground spring/stream that percolates up through the asphalt.
2. the drainage was designed poorly and/or is clogged and/or is non-existent.

Filling in the pot holes will not solve the problem. They will just return during the next freeze/thaw cycle. It's especially horrible in the main lot, just beyond the handicap lot - going back 10-15 rows and the entire width of the area.

I remember taking the kiddies there in the dead of summer, for the fair/carnival. It hadn't rained in weeks, yet - the lot was covered with wet spots and puddles.

If they take the usual PenDot approach to fixing the holes, consisting of throwing pitch into a water filled crater, that'll last about a day.

I'm taking the under that this problem will be fixed any time soon. The cost and effort to do it correctly will be prohibitive and timely.
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:26 PM   #3113
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Have taken two trips down this past weekend. I live about an hour away and will be making at least one trip a week I think. Got into a bit of an argument with some 2/5 live reg at a 1/2 game last night. He asked if I wanted to chop and I said no, he then threw a tantrum and proceeded to raise $35 preflop. I folded, but just don't understand why live players take it so personally when people don't want to chop. Babies.
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:41 PM   #3114
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I like how this poker room is open to suggestions so I have one that is non-poker related. Would it be possible to get hand sanitizers on the walls like the Borgata has? I'm not a germaphobe but I have to be honest, I see some people rub some weird **** on their hands then handle the cards. I can't how many times I see people eat and then touch the cards.(bad for them and us) I've seen plenty of people pick their nose while at the table then handle their cards. The worst I ever saw was a huge slob reach his hand down the front of his pants, lift his leg in mid-step and without a hitch, pull his underwear out of his ass from the front of him and then proceed to scratch his balls or whatever he has down there for a good 5 seconds. If thats not bad enough he then smelled the scent from whatever he scratched and promptly sat and looked at his hole cards.

I bring my own sanitizer so it's not the end of the world if it doesn't get done. I just wanted to add my two cents.
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:45 PM   #3115
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Have taken two trips down this past weekend. I live about an hour away and will be making at least one trip a week I think. Got into a bit of an argument with some 2/5 live reg at a 1/2 game last night. He asked if I wanted to chop and I said no, he then threw a tantrum and proceeded to raise $35 preflop. I folded, but just don't understand why live players take it so personally when people don't want to chop. Babies.
I always have chopped whenever anyone has asked and I have even asked myself. But, I don't really understand why people make such a big deal about chopping the blinds when someone says no though. Just fold and take the $1 loss... ouch.
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Old 01-24-2011, 09:17 PM   #3116
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I always have chopped whenever anyone has asked and I have even asked myself. But, I don't really understand why people make such a big deal about chopping the blinds when someone says no though. Just fold and take the $1 loss... ouch.
I'm not certain but I think in raked games there is a drop if a flop is seen. I play mostly timed LHE games and actually enjoy playing the blinds because a good majority of profit comes from playing around the blinds and there isn't a drop if a flop is seen since time is taken out every half hour.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:59 AM   #3117
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Lee, take a look at his post history. He loves to hate on Parx, yet he continues to play there. Go figure.
like most people who play at parx, i do so out of convenience. do i have issues with parx? absolutely, because i was hoping it would be as nice as The Borgata, but sadly it's not. as for the dealer who calls players by name, it's not "professionalism." it's fake and i found it annoying. if the dealers are trained to do it, then why don't all the other dealers do it? go figure.

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Old 01-25-2011, 05:52 AM   #3118
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Warning: someone just got pulled over for running the 3way stop after you turn into parx.

It easily could have been me as I rolled through right before her.

thanks for the heads up. i have to admit, i drive through those 3-way stops w/out so much as tapping on my brake.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:13 AM   #3119
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thanks for the heads up. i have to admit, i drive through those 3-way stops w/out so much as tapping on my brake.
Stopping at that first one after the Applebees tilts me so hard, I have never seen another car at that intersection coming left or right ever. Once you reach the "Parx loop" you get traffic, but that first one I will never understand.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:00 AM   #3120
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as for the dealer who calls players by name, it's not "professionalism." it's fake and i found it annoying. if the dealers are trained to do it, then why don't all the other dealers do it? .
We disagree here... and as for the "all the other" comment... why aren't ALL dealers exactly alike and perfectly execute their training?
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:55 PM   #3121
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Stopping at that first one after the Applebees tilts me so hard, I have never seen another car at that intersection coming left or right ever. Once you reach the "Parx loop" you get traffic, but that first one I will never understand.
Coming from the TPKE turn left at the light before the Parx entrance. There is an entrance to the parking lot about a half mile down on the right. You avoid all the stupid stop signs that way.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:43 PM   #3122
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PLO going tonight? Not sure i can make it till around 10, but wanted to check on 2+2 interest and go from there.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:59 PM   #3123
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PLO going tonight? Not sure i can make it till around 10, but wanted to check on 2+2 interest and go from there.
I'm headed to AC tonight to play the 100k guaranteed tomorrow, so I'm out for this week.
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:43 PM   #3124
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That was a mistake that could easily be avoided.
That mistake was a hypothetical example. Good 1st post though . Welcome to 2p2
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:54 PM   #3125
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I'm not certain but I think in raked games there is a drop if a flop is seen. I play mostly timed LHE games and actually enjoy playing the blinds because a good majority of profit comes from playing around the blinds and there isn't a drop if a flop is seen since time is taken out every half hour.
They don't take a rake unless the pot reaches $10. They never take a rake if there is no flop.
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