Why not just come play 5-0 PLO with us on Wed/Fri? You can play NLHE anytime, anywhere you want. We bumped the max up to 1k now so it plays pretty big.

Because he wants to leave you PLO donks with nothing other than bus fare obv

But imo playing NLHE along with PLO makes NLHE even more meh. After playing PLO you just seem to get an endless amount of 93o what am I trying to make here hands.

was there friday night

played the 10/20 O/E. it was pretty much 6 handed the entire way. hit a rush during omaha/8 round, so ended up ~15BB.

which i then promptly gave back when i switched to the 15/30 game. it was a great game, but I hit crap, and I played awfully. so many careless mistakes that if i saw someone do what i did, i'd instantly think they were borderline ******ed. don't know why I had the brainfarts. e.g., guy flopped a full house and i ended up with a flush. he shows his hand, and i just see trips, and then wonder wtf is going on when he gets shipped the pot. laugh at myself. then i completely miss a flush on the board when i hit my nut straight. luckily the other guy didn't have a good flush, so i didn't lose that much.

but it was definitely a good game. don't know what the main game was like, but this must move was juicy. there was one AZN who played every pot pretty much and loved to bet.

don't play that much anymore, so it was fun getting some time in.

Bri - the 5/0 game is a $1K max now? What are most people coming in for?

Didn't know the max was increased, that's good. I've hopped in the game twice, didn't like the $500 buy-in though.

Early in the game most still buy in for 3-500, a few buy in max.More people buy in for 1k when the game is deep later in the evening.

Massages available as of today, 2pm-2am I believe. $20 for 15 min.

I was wondering the anticipated attendance for the O8 Turney at Parx Winter Showdown, on Feb 29th, thinking about going.....have they had any previous 08 turneys?

Count me in. That make the count at least 1 so far. Also I know at least 10 others so make it minimum turnout of 11 runners probably more though. I'd say.

I was looking at the bravo app and saw that Sands in Bethlehem has a 6/12 he game going. From the chatter in that thread it seems that this game might become a regular feature along with a straight O8 game. Who do we have to beg to see about getting those same games at Parx? Hey Ari do you still check in here from time to time? No, Sands doesn't have 4/8 lhe (3/6 instead), but would changing the smallest game to a 3/6 structure be so bad if we could get 6/12 and O8 regularly?

Yeah, I know gotta protect 6/12 oe and all that, but often I hear some of the oe players saying they would prefer just O8.

Sands is too fr for me to travel regularly but is someplace I would seriously consider on weekends for the right mix of games.

You bring up some great points. I also have some similar thoughts;

1. Parx doesn't want to spread 2/4 which is fine, but why not just make the lowest LHE game 3/6 ? The $2 chips are not good for 4/8, which never gets
more than two tables. I'm pretty sure if they spread 3/6 there would be
3 tables going solid most days.

2. 6/12 LHE might just work. The jump isn't as intimidating as 8/16, which
never did take off.

3. I'd say 95% of the regs who play 6/12 OE would rather just play O8.
Sorry, but the half kill in the stud 8 round just seems "off" to me.

4. Develop a low-limit stud (or stud 8) game. I think 2-10 is a good limit,
but Ari has gone on record saying he doesn't want a no ante game.
I think it would develop a following though...

Here's what I would recommend;
*Drop 4/8 LHE and add 3/6 AND 6/12
*Drop the stud 8 half from the OE game to just 6/12 O8 (half kill)
*Figure out if there's any interest in 7 card stud (probably not, but try),
I like 2-10 stud (or stud 8) spread limit.

Sands will spread most standard games if there is interest. They how have 30 tables so more games are being spread.

I don't know much about limit games, but these ideas sure seem very good to me. There really needs to be some sort of gap between the lowest and 2nd lowest LHE games. Not really sure about the other ideas, but I'll take your word on number 2 and having some sort of stud game can't be a bad idea.

If the room has it's reasons for not spreading anything lower than 4/8 than just go with it.

But is it really true that they won't even let people try and start 6/12 lhe games?

That just sounds weird. I have no dog in this fight, it's just odd. All to protect an OE game like it was a rare condor. And half the players probably walk around during during the E.

Just let the players play what they want to play imo..but I don't have a PhD in cardroom mgt so maybe I'm missing some advanced theory here

OH HELLLLLLLLL YES.

I'll be there Friday March 2nd. When does the game usually start up on Friday? Also consider that this is the PLO tourney day if memory serves.

I think its worth a shot.
One note. Stud with no ante is terrible. It will be the nittiest game ever.
In stud the smaller the ante is in relation to the bets the tighter you are supposed to play. Low limit stud is generally pretty nitty even with antes.
Looking at both extremes. Stud with no ante you can fold for free, its not smart to play loose.
If the game was 6-12 with a 20 ante and $2 bring in would you ever fold 3rd st?

leave the oe game again

Usually starts between 6-7, but that day will definitely be earlier.

If you cant afford 4-8 LHE, you shouldnt be playing poker at all. I dont think anything smaller than that is worth spreading for the casino.

I was specifically told that they don't spread 6/12 lhe when I last called in to get on a list. Now the gal on the phone may have been mistaken, but she seemed positive.

No one really walks around during stud8, well not that I've noticed. when the 2nd table is short it's usually just stud8, probably because of the blinds in O8. Some would rather post $1 for the stud8 instead of the small/big in O8. Next time I'll try to insist on the O8 round instead of staying at S8 just to see what happens.

Parx has only had one tourney series so far plus their daily tournies. All have been NLHE, except there was one LHE during the series.

Since OE runs in the room all the time, the dealers should be fine during the tourney.

As for runners? Not sure. Sometimes there are 3 OE tables running on a Friday night, but will most of those venture out at 11 AM on a Wednesday? Probably not.

I'm sure some of the regs would have a better idea on what it might get.

This idea sucks. I play 6/12 oe like 5 days/week. The reason for this is because this game is extremely popular running almost any hour everyday. Why would we mess with a game that is super popular so the handful of people that don't like stud will be happy. (they never will be tho).
I 100% prefer to play stud with people whose skill level at this game is suspect. With all your lobbying to drop stud I assume that means you sir.
I hope to play this game daily for the next 25-50 years since this casino is <5 miles from my house. I suggest you sharpen your stud skills instead of trying to kill probably the only regular casino stud game in Pennsylvania.
Thank you

You talk a lot of **** for someone who is content with playing 6/12 for the "next 25-50 years."

If you have played in the game You probably know me. I'm 37 years old. And I may not live that long. Hopefully though. 50 years may be a bit optimistic. Ok 20-30 years.
Also, I'm not content with anything. But this helps pass the time til I die.

Taking $5 rake out of almost every pot, it really doesn't matter what the limits are. It's always worth it for the casino... the players, not so much.

But, if you are playing LL stakes, you probably don't care how virtually impossible it is to beat the game anyway.

The thought behind creating the 3-6 game was based on (what many of us feel is) some sound thinking, about how to improve the LHE opportunities in this room:

1. 4/8 with $2 chips sucks - it should be a white chip only game. and it is an awkward level, when the next highest LHE game that goes is 15/30.
2. Spreading 3/6, should mandate use of $1 chips.
3. Spreading 3/6 opens up the possibility of a 6/12 game growing legs.
4. A 6/12 game, played with $2 chips would be a very good game. Especially, if you structured with 2chip/3chip blinds.

And, even if the 6/12 doesn't fly, the 3/6 games probably will have as many players as the 4/8 currently does. See the first sentence in this post on rake, for why it's a no-op for the casino.