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Originally Posted by Desean Jackson
The drinks here arent free and are in fact super expensive. The poker room doesnt have wifi. The rake is also 25% higher than all the casinos in Atlantic City.
The Borgata in AC has free drinks, wifi and lower rake. It is hands down the #1 cardroom on the east coast and it's not close. I wouldn't feel to good about that if I were Ari and parx management. My line of thought you should always aim to be the best. Maybe Parx should offer awesome benefits to players that play 100 hours + a month. We are spending freakin $1000+ a month at Parx. At least meet the standard accommodations in Atlantic City ,drinks, wifi, and 25% cash back so the cost to play poker is the same as Atlantic city. These improvements wouldnt cost you much money and would in fact make you more money because you'd increase your market share. You'd acquire your competitors customers and pretty much crush the other poker rooms. Get creative, treat super high volume regulars like kings, make Parx Poker the #1 poker room in the entire USA.
Too long, don't read but I had to post this so...
Everyone has their own favorite room and that's fine. I like the borgata plenty too, and don't like 1 room over the other. You also only represent 1 population. I'm not trying to be an ass here just going to give you the view of another population.
I don't drink when i play cards so i don't care too much about the alcohol policy, the players that like to drink and play crazy (bad fish) still do, even if they have to pay.
The games I play are time games, not rake, and the time charge at parx are the same as the borgata and other AC rooms, so they could rake $10 a pot at 1/2 for all I care.
I have unlimited web on my phone and go to a poker room to play poker not surf the web anyway so WiFi really doesn't matter to me.
Most of what makes me go to parx a lot and not AC as much comes down to 1 simple thing, distance.
Parx and Chester are 25 minutes from my house, AC is 1 hour. It would be really rare for me to take a trip to AC on a weeknight when i have to work the next morning, it is quite convenient during the week to go play cards for a few hours, it's only 35 minutes difference each way but it really makes it much more convenient. It costs me less in gas and tolls as well, not that it plays much of a part for me, in fact it could cost $5 more in tolls to go to parx and i would still go there since it is closer, the 1 hour 10 minutes of time saved would be worth it. Even on a weekend, it is much more convenient on a whim, especially in the summer, friday night traffic on AC expressway can be a bitch.
Whether others agree or not, in my opinion the distance is the draw is for most parx players. Parx is a great room for sure, but I think the location is one of it's biggest draws. Not sure how many poker players you know, but i know a lot, and every time I am at parx I see tons of players I know from Tah/Borgata, and it's more and more every time. When i shoot the breeze with them the first time i see them at parx they all say something along the lines of, "Yeah i still go to AC, but Parx is X time/distance closer so I come here a lot now, it's just so close".
Parx competitor is more so Chester than the borgata. The borgata becomes the competitor for a small niche of people that happen to live dead in the middle of the 2.
My biggest gripe about parx is the lack of food options in the poker building, especially after 9pm. You can only eat at the noodle bar so many times, and i'm scared to order food from the poker room snack bar.
If you do play the raked games, you are technically right that $4+$1BBJ is a better rake than $5 no BBJ. If you factor in the cost of travel to the borgata, the rake is damn near the same for most of us. If people want to drive extra time to save ~$5 a trip in rake that is their prerogative.
You are entitled to your opinion sir, just realize that you don't represent everyone, only your situation which is different then many others. You are free to like one room better than another but you don't need to come and S*** on the other rooms.
Ari and crew do take our suggestions into consideration all the time, if you read this entire thread you will see what changes have been made in the last year or so. I wouldn't be surprised if we get the Wifi soon. As far as alcohol, not sure if that is Parx rule or PA rule.
Keep in mind you catch more flies with Honey, telling Ari his room sucks is less likely to get him to listen to you as opposed to writing or approaching him like an adult with your suggestions.
And i didn't even bring up the game differences
Here are just a few:
2/5 at parx has bigger buy in 1k instead of 500.
Limits run 4/8 15/30 30/60 60/120 instead of 3/6 10/20 20/40 40/80 etc...
If you are ready for 15/30 but not 20/40 that is just one example.
PLO runs more often at Parx.
I'm not saying that parx is better than borgata, i could write a whole post about what the borgata does better, just saying it is not as simple for most as: lower rake and free drinks it's borgata time.
Most fish also have no idea about rake so don't worry there will be plenty of fish at both places.