Sorry, I know it's been done to death...

Will the freeroll be at night or during the daytime

But, since he showed the hand, the pot should be split. Shouldn't it? If he had just mucked, then no. But since he showed....

Lee

So is it correct for me to assume there is a possibility a 2-10 stud game w/ acceptable rake #'s can run if there is enough interest?

Baller ITT

i agree. "cards speak" is a rule in pretty much every poker room i've played in. if he exposes it and the dealer sees, it makes no difference if he misreads his hand. chop it up.

It will start in the daytime and end at night.

The chances of me getting the time in to play are slim.... but you better believe if i qualify I'm telling my boss that I can't come in (****ty work study job any way, lol)

I will be curious to see what they do if they get like 300 runners for this thing, Guessing there won't be much cash game action for a good portion of the day, until tables start breaking.

Hey gize, I won't be around this weekend so unless someone lese picks up the ball there will be no possibility of a 15/30; 2/5 Seven Game

Let's shoot for Saturday March 9th

Next week I'll start a thread and let's get some talk in there and get'er going..k thks

I'd definitely play, it would be ideal with the $2 chips.
If that game was up on the board on a Saturday, I'm pretty sure it would go.

IMHO, 4/8 stud won't go because of the $1 ante. The nits will never cave in to that, too used to the .50 antes of AC 5/10 stud games...

I would as well. Yes it's a good game for $2 chips imo as well. Especially if it's set up w/ a $2 BI. $1 ante I can see in a 20+ game. $1 ante in anything less is rape. the 4 game players don't want to be raped...understandable.

I know it's nice to have a pot, but you don't have to force action in a game that is a pot builder anyway imo. I think having a game like 2-10 7cs would generate plenty of rake. While the structure plays more like 4/8 or 5/10 7cs, it will still appeal to the 1-5 crowd imho. The game doesn't need antes. $2 BI and the regular rake schedule will be profitable for the room imho.

This is a niche game, and can prosper IMHO. I can see it running 2 tables easily (main+MM).

Nevertheless, the idea has been discussed and shut down by the "high rollers"/ powers that be because of the "ante issue".

Ari seems to believe a game like this cannot be profitable to the room unless it has antes. That's my read on it....could be wrong.

4 players+$10 each invested in a 2-10 7cs pot on 5th street= rake probably gonna max by the end of next two streets...just sayin'

As many of the people here know , I will not be a reg again for a week or so more. When I do start playing 2-4 times weekly, rest assured, I will be trying to get this game running. I think it's a good one.

He made a very poor call on the river praying to chop and then he takes it out on the dealer, who did nothing wrong. I can see how you would want to rush onto here so you could post all your faults. Now we will know who the moron at our table is. Its good to know that terrible players play that high around here.

Good chance I'll be in the building tomorrow night.

Anyone planning on being there and interested in PLO?

I would definitely play the 2-10, but ONLY if there are antes in the pot. The game plays way to small and nitty otherwise imo. You really use that rape term way too loosely and it is quite offensive/insensitive imho. I will definitely help you get this game going by playing short, and whatever else I could do to assist.

10-25 nl, 15-30 and 30-60 lhe.....strong for 2 in the morn on a wednesday

Hopefully the 30 game never breaks

If I sit and not play 1 of the 20 or so hands we get per hr, that would be $20 in antes I just gave away. Sitting w/ $200, I would consider $20/hr semi rape at least.

Stud isn't an action game, simple as that. It plays how you want it to play. You just need to know how to build a pot w/out scaring people away, that is part of stud. If players want more money in pot there's always a 50/100 mix they can play. I still say $50+ pots would not be uncommon in a 2-10 7cs.

If I want forced bets, I'll play black jack. Or I'll get my BR to 20k and not worry about it. Until then , I prefer no antes in a smaller game like this.

Sorry I offended

Then why play?

That 10-25 nl game was still running at 11am today when I checked the game report. Must've been a good game.

Hold'em, stud, PLO...are all the same really, but they all need some initial juice in the pot to fight over.

Stud is a good game, but you need antes that are 15%-20% of the lower betting limit to get the real game imo

It's not like we're talking about rake. . . the money isn't disappearing off the table. Higher antes are neutral-EV assuming you're adjusting accordingly and playing more hands. They do increase variance, pot size, etc. and punish nittiness.

Stud without antes is a truly awful game.

Not if you're a nit who just wants to earn comps and free drinks!

This has to be one of my favorite things about Parx, they aren't fighting for the nit business like the AC rooms do, smart move imo.

Hello All,

A couple of exciting things happening at parx:

1. Qualifying starts today for our $50,000 freeroll

2. Starting May 21st will introduce buy-in tournaments:

Tuesdays at 7pm $100+$20
Saturdays at 2pm $200+$30

We hope to see you soon

Ari

Sounds great Ari, Great choice on the buy in amounts...

Is it safe to assume that as tournaments progress you will be adding tournies daily ?

so the only way to qualify for the free-roll is putting in time?
can't just buy in?

I see what your saying and totally agree. Seriously though, does $8 or $9 really make a difference in the game? I mean does that $8 really juice up the game at all?

Now if we were playing a 25 game w/ $5 antes, $40-$45 preflop is a little different imo.

I just think the game is a bit too small for antes.

Stud is a nit game. Not sure why people keep trying to make it an action fest (I do , but I'd rather not offend the "moneymaker effect" generation). Like I said before, if you don't like the money in the pot at that stake then start a 10 or 25 game.

I think there should be a "dabble" stud game for those who don't want to play big. A 2-10 structure plays bigger then 1-5 but is easier to commit to(for the 1-5ers) because it looks as though it won't play as high as it actually does. This is one of the reasons I think it will not have problems running. Introduce the antes and you won't get the reg nits playing the nit game they have known for decades.

I want to play the guy who is thinking "...it's only $2-$4 more per street than I'm used to and I can win 50%-100% more per pot then I'm used to as well..."<<<< the same nit that thinks this (and is going to play regularly because of this thought) is the same nit that is not going to want $20 in forced bets per hour at this level. If he wanted forced bets he can try his luck at a $5 BJ or 3cp table.

You guys can do what you want. I just think you should give it a shot w/out antes and see how it goes. $8 isn't gonna make or break anyone ITT. I'm sure if the people that are considering this game ITT play, your not going to have to worry about small pots relative to the stake. There will be plenty of action w/ you guys. Good for you, good for the casino.

Do you want to play $50+ pots regularly, or do you want to complain about the $8 that isn't there? You need to build the player pool, and your not gonna get the players described above if you have antes in a game playing this low IMHO.