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Originally Posted by dinesh
The best reason to play a "worse" game at a higher stake is because you think you will make more money doing so, which is surely an important thing to anyone who is playing the game for a living. You play to maximize your win rate within the bounds of the risk your bankroll can tolerate, not to ensure that your every session is a winner.
Even if one concedes that a lower stake game is "better", one must make twice as much per hour playing in it to break even. Dropping from 15-30 to 4-8 requires making almost four times as much per hour. It's up to each player to determine how well they think they can play in each game, but almost no one who thinks they can make 1BB/hr at 30-60 is going to be interested in playing the 4-8, no matter how juicy it is.
As for the Bellagio games, I am far from a regular in those games. But my experience there over the past year does not match what you describe. Both games were ~80% regs, and tables of both would start and break with roughly the same pattern having to do with time of day and almost nothing else. If a game imploded because of reg sharkiness, it was going to break anyway because it was 4am.
The Parx 15 game is rather reg-infested at the moment, and I agree it will (hopefully!) get better when there are more tables available. But in my experience the game runs short exactly twice per day: once when it first gets going, and once as it dies each night. Moving to play 9 handed (with a must move) won't do anything to change that, particularly if they implement 3mw.
Just my opinion.
Your logic is sound.
However, all said, you also have to consider the probability of loss. Even for a winning player, the probability of loss is greater in a tougher game. Contrast that with the higher probability of winning in a softer game and the 4X delta is really somewhere well south of 2X. Meaning that playing in a good 4-8 game gives up less than 50% of a tough 8-16 potential.
I've played between 4-8 and 30-60 in the span of one session at B. I just always look for the softest game in the room. The slope may be shallow, but it still goes up and risk remains low. It's not about BR. I'm not gonna try and grind out rent money in the 30 game, or the 15 game - if they are bad games. I'll play 4-8 or 8-16.
On thing that will happen in the Parx 15 game (or any limit game for that matter), if it goes to 9-handed is: the value of drawing hands will go down. Many of us agree that drawing hands are where you have the most potential for making the most money.
Way out of scope for this thread, but you will (correctly) have to consider the fact that you will often not be getting the right price for your drawing hands. . You're giving up potential profit.
Go back into the archives of RGP. There was a huge discussion around this, many years ago, relating to the CA 9-handed games. A couple of the people that are hero-worshipped here on 2p2 contributed to that discussion and analogy.
It was, ironically, one of the few things I ever agreed with them about