I am asking if your talking about the numbers you see published from time to time like PBKC made 200k revenue for poker room in october, etc.
That is a made up number, I dont remember what the actually numbers are.

or how much rake is taken from each pot and when its taken, etc. ?

The Florida Department of Business Professional Regulations list the gross receipts for all pari-mutuel venues in Florida by law. The last month reported was October 2010. The card room gross receipts was $1,122,590 for Palm Beach Kennel Club. This amount come from the drop and tournaments only.

This past weekend I played @ PBKC.

At one point in the evening there was a situation at one of the high-limit tables. I was not at the table so I don't know what the issue was, but several players were standing up & argueing over what happened, the floor was called over, & one of the players is yelling "Look at the tapes!"

Very shortly thereafter a police officer (Sheriff?) quickly walks into the high-limit area, goes up to the table, gets in the face of the player argueing the loudest, & says to the player "Shut the F up or get the F out!"

He said it in a VERY loud voice, & I (& everyone at my table, which was not in the high limit area) clearly heard him say it.

Again, I have no idea what occured at the table, & I have no idea if the player in question is a chronic problem player or not. Regardless, it would be interesting to find out if the officer in question is still working at PBKC after this incident.

I am pretty sure their rake procedure is the same as the Kennel Clubs, but I dont think it is an arguement worth persuing. You like who you like. I can tell you it is the same and it all boils down to what action you want and what service you recieve. I for one will go the distance to play at the Kennel Club

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I play from Central Florida on down to Calder and the rake procedure is very similar at most rooms. The key for me has always been table selection because at a place like PBKC you can have a 1-2 game with a bunch of LAGtards and four or five players with $500+ in front, and on the very next table nothing but elderly nits who don't enter a pot with < JJ.

Ok lets compare PBKC to The Isle on raking:

PBKC does not do No Flop No Drop, meaning they take a rake even when there is no flop and more importantly they take a Min. $2 even if its a blind steal. In addition on 1/2nl you have to post $2 on the button to cover the $2 min. $2 rake.

The Isle does do No Flop No Drop, meaning they take nothing even if its $100 in the pot if there is not a flop. and there is a min. $1 rake on when there is a flop. and there is no stupid $2 post on the button.

So do you guys see the difference now? Also $2 bottled water at PBKC and free bottled water at the Isle.

Doh! Forgot about the button blind for $1/$2.

Of course, in some respects it spurs action.

lol, this is enough for me to stay clear of PBKC before the circuit events. LOL @ no flop drop rake (AND LOL @ $2 one at that). LOL at paying for bottled water (or drinks for that matter).


Florida, you still suck. What is it about large states that have ****** places to gamble? New york, only 1 casino. Florida blows. California, i guess is the only large state that's alright, however rent is outrageous. Texas, no casinos (that I'm aware of). These 4 states make up almost 1/3rd of the US population (~100 million out of ~300 million US citizens) and all of them blow for poker.. wtf (although Florida probably nudges out California due to high cost of living in LA)


Isle, I will look forward to coming there.

Looking forward to the WSOP coming to my home turf. Sorry it took so long to get an account on this thing. Looking forward to some good discussions, thanks guys and we'll see ya soon!

the people in this thing above me are goofy. If you think you can find the action that they have in Palm Beach anywhere else your wrong. I get paid to play there way more than anywhere else. So go play somewhere else, I guess. There's too many good reasons for me to keep playing at the best room in FL imo.

Parisron you have been a valuable asset to the Florida poker community, especially since the limit changes. I don't think anyone can deny that... but I also feel like you are way too negative about every room besides the ones you like.

It is great to know what you like and why, but I don't think it is so great to go on a thread dedicated to a room and try to recruit for another room inside of it.
Yes, the Isle is great but so is Palm Beach. Want to do a Palm Beach vs. Isle comparison go to a more basic thread to do it, or start a new thread.

Im not trying to recruit people to play at the Isle. People were making uniformed statements and I was just informing them.

with PBKC having the no flop drop and paying for drinks... I don't see how Palm Beach is so great. especially after i've been hearing amazing things about the isle.

please tell me the positive attributes to PBKC that will want me to come there (besides the WSOPC, which I am sure satellites too will be raked at the standard 20% (100+20))...

Parisron was doing no disservice to the PBKC by stating the facts of their room.

the action is better imo. but the isle is a far far far superior poker venue.

I am very excited about WSOP C coming to south florida, I am a bit surprised it's going to be at PBKC, but honestly I could care less if it was at PBKC or any other room in south florida for that matter, all that matters is we're getting WSOP C!

Firstly, Noah and the guys do a great job running the room. IMO it does have more looooose action than the isle. What parisron is complaining about is a big deal to him because of the limits he is playing. While yes it is nice to get free bottles of water and such, I will gladly go where I can make more money. Grinding it out for 15-20/ hr will make you look at little things like drinks and such. Sorry Noah I fully agree that your room should be NFND, not to mention how can you take a jackpot drop with no flop? That's like buying a lotto ticket they don't actually give you.

Also, try to remember that the poker is the primary source of income now for pkbc, while the isle has the best money maker of all, slots. Not to mention, the pricing of beverages and which ones they charge for is generally not up to PR managers, rather the food and beverage managers and ultimately the owners. If I were playing 1/2 I would be crucial on the little details. But even that said, I still make trips to SoCal because the action is so damn good.

Summary: isle is great, pkbc is great. It goes without saying that both were deserving of a shot at the wsop-c events, but I have a feeling why they won.... Dedication. Noah and Joe deserve it.

does the isle take jackpot drops?

i am pretty sure (100%) that they dont drop jackpot with no flop. If they do, then tell the dealer he shouldnt.

And my god about the 2 on the button. First of all, 95% of the players at 1/2 cant beat the rake period, much less 2 on the button. Most times the games are so nitty that they need some encouragement to play. And if your stealing the blinds, you still win 3 dollars, unless your on the button, but really, who cares about stealing those blinds in a 1/2 game. Second, I Have been to the ilse many times and even tho there water is free (not up to the room, but food and beverage) I still seem to keep the same water bottle and just refill it for some reason. And no I am not cheap on the waitresses, I do keep hot chocolate in front of me.

Bottom line for a real player is go to where you have the softest games and a good staff. The ilse has NO personabilty, your just another face silling a seat. I feel much more appreciation at the kennel.

I've been playing the last few weeks at pbkc and the actions been great. I'm sure the holiday season has been helping, but i noticed at around 1am after the last table draw quite a few ppl leave. so i am assuming the promos brought some good action as well. r you guys continuing that in dec.? if not what promos you got going? thanks for the quick replies.

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The action is awesome at Palm Beach. Not only are the games very soft, but the fish bring multiple barrels to reload. A fish on tilt reloading and playing without emotions in check turns modest winning sessions into monster cash outs.

I was there yesterday and at 11 am they had 2 5/10 games going. One of the games had 25 K on the table 9 handed at noon. The max buy is 2,500.
I play at the tampa hard rock and games usually start up with maybe 12k on the table. I really do not care if my bottle of water is $2 when I have 13K more on the table to win.

You guys do realize that if you approach a shift boss, or Noah himself, and ask them for a free lunch or a redbull or whatever they will gladly provide it for you, right? All you have to do is ask them. If you are giving them rake they will take care of you. I am pretty sure Noah himself has mentioned this in this thread.

The Isle does not even have cell phone service or free WIFI. Palm Beach has great cell phone service, and all the free WIFI you can chew up. Parisron how do you quantify free WIFI? Do you see any value in that? Do the features and benefits outweigh a free bottle of water?

My point is each place offers different things or lacks different things; However, their is no substitution for action and money. PBKC has this on lockdown.

Yes the action is good at PBKC. I dont remember there being a wifi signal when I was there a few months ago. Is that new?
I know that The Isle has crap phone signal and pretty much zero access to any internet on your phone.

Whoa there's wifi?? I never even checked, and my AT&T 3g drops to no service at most places in the room, I get horrible cell reception in there.

They have 2 wifi signals. One is upstairs near the tourney section I think it says "concourse". The other is downstairs for the cash game section.

Hey Scam, do you just grind live action or are you big into online?

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