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Old 12-04-2010, 09:57 AM   #1
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The Orleans Hotel & Casino (Las Vegas, NV)

Is this a good casino for poker? I heard its good for Omaha Hi/Lo and also for NLHE both tournaments and cash games. Anyone played there?
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:31 AM   #2
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Is this a good casino for poker? I heard its good for Omaha Hi/Lo and also for NLHE both tournaments and cash games. Anyone played there?

Oh its a casino? I thought it was a nursing home. Its hard to tell.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:33 AM   #3
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Is this a good casino for poker? I heard its good for Omaha Hi/Lo and also for NLHE both tournaments and cash games. Anyone played there?
I always make it a point to go there. Mostly locals in that room. Room is huge but when I've been there only half of it was playing cash games. Other half was for tournaments. Staff is pretty old, but what the Orleans makes the waitresses wear is all worth it imo.
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:31 PM   #4
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Oh its a casino? I thought it was a nursing home. Its hard to tell.
LOL.

I started playing there when I moved to Vegas in March because it was the closest casino to my house. However, I no longer go there because I'd end up getting irritated every time I played by the old nits who are there more for their $1.25/hr. than to play poker. The worst thing about the Orleans poker room is that they don't have the Genesis Bravo system (or at least they didn't when I quit playing there) so all the old nits would get up every round or two and go for a walk for 30-45 minutes. They'd then come back, sit out until they didn't have to post, play a little while and then leave again when their BB came around. There would always be at least two players walking, and if there wasn't a list of people waiting to play, the floor wouldn't enforce the "third man walking" rule and you could have several people away at any given time.
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:19 PM   #5
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When I was living out there I use to go there to play cheap tournaments and O8, the NL games are 1/2 mostly and too many people play short. I would some times mess around there waiting for a movie or fill my fuddruckers cravings. The crowd does need to be dusted off, some of them must be closer to 100 then 70.

Smells like old people.
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:29 PM   #6
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realistically i feel very uncomfortable there in large part because the room is filled with regulars and it appears that the staff will try to accomodate them over strangers.


I have had my name mysteriously dropped down the list in favor of regular players and the staff's only response was "I didn't do it". Even if you don't think that is a big issue ..... What if there is an issue at the table and the floor rules in favor of the regular over me ..... after being ****ed over in the list how could I possibly feel I had a fair chance in the ruling.

And in tournament play they allow the regulars to choose their seats. When i see this I know the place isn't being well run.

On the other hand it is the busiest of the locals rooms so you know you can find a game.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:19 PM   #7
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thanks guys. i think i will give it a miss and play at the MGM grand instead!
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I'd check the V if you get a chance
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:42 PM   #9
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Re: Orleans Casino, Las Vegas

The lighting is some of the harshest I've seen in a casino, with fluorescent lights 10 feet above the tables. Gives it zero ambiance. Plus the other factors mentioned. I've once heard it referred to as "God's Waiting Room."
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:23 AM   #10
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Oh its a casino? I thought it was a nursing home. Its hard to tell.
I played there last weekend because I was there for basketball games at the Orelans arena, and I was the youngest player at the table for most of the day.

And I'm 40.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:09 AM   #11
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so if i want to play omaha8 at a casino in las vegas other than the orleans casino what are my options? As you guys have done a good job of putting me off playing at the Orleans casino!
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:10 AM   #12
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I always make it a point to go there. Mostly locals in that room. Room is huge but when I've been there only half of it was playing cash games. Other half was for tournaments. Staff is pretty old, but what the Orleans makes the waitresses wear is all worth it imo.
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thanks guys. i think i will give it a miss and play at the MGM grand instead!
This is the best time of the year re:uniforms. The rodeo is in town and they are all wearing real tight cowboy getups. As for the comments about everyone being old in there, I wonder how many of those posters have been in there more than once. I've seen plenty of internet kids in there, mostly at 1/2 and 2/5. I'd rather play there than the MGM, with it's weird rulings and crappy floor.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:56 AM   #13
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I personally like the Orleans a lot, but the previous posts are right about the lobbying problem. There's one lady who is there playing the sit-out-forever game every damn time I'm there. Green sweatshirt, huge dark glasses, never talks, just puts in the absolute minimum time at the table to qualify for player share on the bbj, then sits out again. Floor won't pick her up so everyone has to play shorthanded to accommodate her. Orleans management, are you listening? Fix the lobbying situation and the room will be one of my top two in Vegas.

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Old 12-05-2010, 12:48 PM   #14
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so if i want to play omaha8 at a casino in las vegas other than the orleans casino what are my options? As you guys have done a good job of putting me off playing at the Orleans casino!

Venetian has steady $8-$16 and $4-$8 action
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:31 PM   #15
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I always make it a point to go there. Mostly locals in that room. Room is huge but when I've been there only half of it was playing cash games. Other half was for tournaments. Staff is pretty old, but what the Orleans makes the waitresses wear is all worth it imo.
My friend Karl was quite appreciative of the waitresses, and they kept him well stocked in Bloody Marys, to the point he had to wave them off when we were preparing to leave.

If you play Omaha 8, it's so worth a visit.
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:35 PM   #16
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There we one lady at the O8 table whe would constantly short buy 40 and get it all in and lose. She tried to short buy $20 twice and that turned into a big issue. It was simultaneously hilarious and annoying. But if you're an O8 player, you're kind of used to that thing. Even still, you're used to that sort of thing if you play O8 regularly.
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:58 PM   #17
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so if i want to play omaha8 at a casino in las vegas other than the orleans casino what are my options? As you guys have done a good job of putting me off playing at the Orleans casino!
Red Rock runs O8B 4-8 w/half kill. A decent alternative to Orleans. RR is a cool place to be in general. Good cinema, really good food court, solid buffet, nice array of restaurants. Good parking in both the garage and the parking lot in front (to the north)--when you walk into the casino from the parking lot the room is directly on the right. Walk in, swipe your card to get on multiple lists . . . $2 hr in comps . . . not bad.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:45 PM   #18
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As for the comments about everyone being old in there, I wonder how many of those posters have been in there more than once. I've seen plenty of internet kids in there, mostly at 1/2 and 2/5.
It is a much younger crowd in the evenings, but during the day it is a much older crowd with most of the players 50+years.....JME from the times I have played there.

The 2/5 game is always good there (when it goes)but the dealers as a group are God awful....
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:07 PM   #19
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so if i want to play omaha8 at a casino in las vegas other than the orleans casino what are my options?
The Venetian is the place to play Omaha. $2/5 PLO (didn't play it), $1/2 PLO with a $5 bring in, $4/8 and $8/16 O/8. The latter 3 are all soft. You will find some good players in PLO, but not so much in O/8.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:23 AM   #20
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... but the dealers as a group are God awful....
In general, I've found the staff there to be pretty solid. fwiw.

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Old 12-06-2010, 12:24 PM   #21
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The Venetian is the place to play Omaha. $2/5 PLO (didn't play it), $1/2 PLO with a $5 bring in, $4/8 and $8/16 O/8. The latter 3 are all soft. You will find some good players in PLO, but not so much in O/8.
$4/8 and $8/$16 Omaha8 are fixed limit games at venetian?

Also sorry for my ignorance but what is a kill pot?
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:06 PM   #22
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$4/8 and $8/$16 Omaha8 are fixed limit games at venetian?

Also sorry for my ignorance but what is a kill pot?
Big bet (no-limit or pot-limit) poker frequently allows a player to "kill the pot", by posting an amount equal to current to-go amount, and the amount to-go (to come into the hand, or call preflop) is now double the kill amount. In no-limit games, players are frequently allowed to kill for more than the to-go amount, but for no more than 1/2 of their stack. Some games allow overkills - after someone has killed the pot, someone else can kill it again, raising the amount to-go to double the new kill amount. There may be a limit to the number of kills allowed on a hand, even though the game is "no-limit". Killing the pot alters the order of action preflop/predraw. The killers act after the blinds in the order in which they killed the pot. After the flop or draw, action returns to its normal order.

To kill the pot in Hold'em or other flop games, the kill must be announced (either verbally or by placing the amount of the kill in the pot) before any cards are dealt. Draw lowball games frequently allow players to kill the after seeing two cards - and some places even allow a kill in lowball after the 3rd card is dealt. No-limit draw lowball also frequently allows the player with the big blind to place a blind which is larger than the normal amount, but still smaller than the to-go amount, and the new to-go amount is twice the big blind.

Example: In a 1-2-2, 5-to-go Hold'em game, the player on the button (who also has the $1 blind) decides to kill it for $5, rebuying his right to act last before the flop. The blinds now look like 5-2-2, and the game is now 10-to-go. After the player to the right of the button acts, the two $2 blinds act, then the killer acts.

Example: In a draw-lowball game, 1-1-2 blinds, 4-to-go, the player with the big blind puts out $3 before cards are dealt and it is now 6-to-go. After two cards are dealt, the player to the right of the button kills the pot for $10, and it is now 20-to-go. The player after the blinds is first to act. After the player in front of the killer acts, the button and other blinds must act, and then the killer acts.

Limit lowball games also frequently allow a player to kill the pot from any position. In this case, the killer makes a blind of the current limit, and the limit is doubled for that hand. As in no-limit games, the player who kills the pot acts last after the blinds before the draw, and action resumes to the normal order after the draw.

In addition, some limit games are played with a kill or a half kill. In these games, there is some condition which if met, raises the stakes of the game - doubling them in the case of a kill game, or increasing them by 50% in the case of a half kill. In addition to the normal blinds posted for the game, the player who met the kill condition must post a blind equal to the new small bet size. This blind is instead of the small or big blind if the player would have been in position to have one of those. In some clubs the killer gets to act last after the blinds; but in others the killer acts in normal turn order.

In a high only game, the condition is typically that someone wins two pots in a row. In a high-low split game, the condition is usually that someone takes the whole pot, and that the pot is some minimum size.

For example: in a 10-20 Omaha-8 game with a half kill that I've played in, if someone scoops a pot with $100 in it, then they must post a $15 blind and the next hand the game is 15-30.
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Big bet (no-limit or pot-limit) poker frequently allows a player to "kill the pot", by posting an amount equal to current to-go amount, and the amount to-go (to come into the hand, or call preflop) is now double the kill amount.
"Allow" is probably not the right word. "Required" is more like it.

Bottom line, it sucks. If you win two hands in a row, you're basically forced to do a dead straddle and the size of the game is doubled.
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"Allow" is probably not the right word. "Required" is more like it.

Bottom line, it sucks. If you win two hands in a row, you're basically forced to do a dead straddle and the size of the game is doubled.
Bottom line, its great. Bad players "defend" their kill or try to make
the kill and play weaker then they should. It stimulates action.

They post by ~red0nkulous made it sound more complicated than it is.

In a full 4/8 Omaha H/L full-kill game scooping the pot earns you the kill button. Bets are doubled (i.e. 4/8 becomes 8/16) and you must post the small bet (now 8). Blinds remain the same.

If you have earned the kill you usually get to act last and have the option to raise.

If you scoop again the kill is still on i.e. its still 8/16. (Bets do not redouble.)
If someone else scoops he posts the kill and you're off the hook. If the pot is split, there is no kill (bets go back to 4/8). If the pot is under $40 (or some room dependent amount) there is no kill. The kill dose not happen that often. (Although more often in O8, then in Hold 'em.)

Often its half-kill i.e. 4/8 goes to 6/12 rest is the same.

Hint: Don't let a kill affect your hand selection. Just play normally
and you'll be fine.
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"Allow" is probably not the right word. "Required" is more like it.

Bottom line, it sucks. If you win two hands in a row, you're basically forced to do a dead straddle and the size of the game is doubled.
I don't play much limit, but I have to admit that I've never understood the rationale for punishing a player who wins two pots in a row by forcing him to post a blind bet.
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