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12-21-2012 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Mags
Yeah 2/5 is such a Difference lol.
Well, it is.
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12-21-2012 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ploooer
Gonna be in the Sarasota area starting Saturday...let's get some PLO going!!!
33 big blinds any chance we can get some games going??
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12-21-2012 , 11:08 AM
Possible. I know the right people for a good game are in town for the winter. I'll see if I can rally some players up.
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12-21-2012 , 11:22 AM
That would be great! I'll be in the area Saturday-Saturday.

Keep me posted.
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12-27-2012 , 05:07 AM
I haven't played here in a year - from a regular to not at all. The room has a ton of issues - as I remember them:

The air conditioning (put in by a large AC company I might add) is unbelievably temperature incompetent - some parts of the room are cold, some tables ice, some are hot.

The seats are (were?) terribly uncomfortable - they had crappy chairs and replaced them with crappier chairs.

They replace the felt on the tables once every three years (best guess) so you have large black spots at the dealer seat. It's really pretty disgusting.

No 2/5. 2/4? Really? Why?

Tournaments are crap - no variety and they had at one time some promotional tournaments here and there which they no longer have. Also - count the players and do the math - they often pay out less than they collect (no joke). They used to have single tables which are now gone. Overall if you want variety you won't get it - same tournaments week after week.

The food is crap - they have a really ugly room off in the back that serves a bunch of garbage. You can't eat at the tables (if I remember correctly) but near the bar.

The floor is inconsistent - as a regular my best guess about rulings was that they rule on how they feel and who the player is. Plus they are often abrasive for no reason.

If you want to watch a TV you may strain your eyes as they are small and placed at a distance.

When they opened they had SOME promotions. When I stopped playing there were NO promotions worth a nickle - they give you coffee and tea for free and other than that ZERO. Compare Derby lane that has $500 hourly high hands on the weekends.

The bottom line is the owners (who walk around gambling on the dogs all day and drinking at the bar) don't care.

Other than that it's a great place.

Last edited by fivechips; 12-27-2012 at 05:12 AM.
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12-27-2012 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowC5
Well, it is.
i wasn't be sarcastic
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12-27-2012 , 05:47 AM
fivechips, its 2/5 now and they had some omaha hi/lo (limit) and i think they'd be pretty receptive to opening up new games if you got players together and made a request.
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12-28-2012 , 03:26 PM
Have y'all seen the standings posted on skcpoker dot com?
Check out this year's leader. Look at these past results, I grabbed the last several, I won't mention the person's name. These all are 50-80 players and this person seems to score 1st, and not anything near the bubble, or beyond 2nd. (the 1 chop besides the Mega Chop is between 2 people). Just sayin', congrats, whoever you are.

Date: / Tournament: / Finish / Chop

8/15/2012 $500 Mega Chop 1 Y
9/3/2012 Monday Night Madness 3 N
10/24/2012 $500 Mega Chop 1 Y
11/24/2012 Big Bounty 1 Y
11/28/2012 $500 Mega Chop 1 Y
12/1/2012 Big Bounty 2 N
12/8/2012 Big Bounty 1 N
12/14/2012 25K Deep Stack 1 N
12/15/2012 Big Bounty 2 N
12/19/2012 $500 Mega Chop 1 Y
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03-12-2013 , 11:09 AM
Hell, since there hasn't been a report (or a post) in about 3 months....

Was bored on Saturday and didn't feel like driving to HR, so went up around 8 pm. Room was pretty full, had 8 on a list for 2/5 and they opened a new table. Room seemed basically full. Didn't see if anything was going on in the back room. (Also, a hot chick at the brush stand, which never hurts.) Temp seemed fine to me, for a change. Chairs still suck, but at least they have some more cushions laying around. Tables looked somewhat clean(er).

I glanced at the promo board and it looks like they have lowered them. Some were 50 and some 150, but they are not doing the 599/299 thing anymore looks like, or at least not that day. They had some "jackpot" thing noted, but have no idea what that was. Some sort of bad beat?

Play was still terrible. Had 2 other players at the table who had a clue, remainder were donating. A couple of short stacks rebuying for 200 at a time, but was nice to see that all the others had full stacks. The 600 buy in is nice. You'll still die a death by 1,000 cuts if you get sloppy and start calling raises with dominated cards, because you can't pry someone off top pair with a crowbar. I think I saw one true bluff in 4 hours.

Dealers kept the game going fairly well. 1 new face I hadn't seen before, rest were the old guard. Interesting (unintentionally funny) situation was one time when someone came across with a stack of $65 looking like he intended to call the $40 bet, but then the dealer took about a minute to make him raise even though the guy said he didn't intend to (dealer looked like he didn't want to upset him). Of course, I had watched the player look at the original bet as action was coming around to him, count out 40, then add 25 on top. I guess that's what passes for semi-angle shooting in SRQ. (Of course, first bettor raised, second guy shoves with the nuts.)

If you have the patience to just play tight, you can do well. I walked around and watched a few other tables. Other 2/5 tables looked about like mine. The 1/2 looks hilarious. (People calling raises to 30 pre.)

I might give the room a shot more regularly again, although we'll have to see how it looks when summer hits.
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03-12-2013 , 12:34 PM
Perfect timing. I was just about to give the room another shot myself.
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03-12-2013 , 12:45 PM
It would be well worth it for you. Play your game and get an even break on the cards you will take them to the cleaners. (Just let me know when you're going so I can go elsewhere that day... )
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03-12-2013 , 05:13 PM
5pm on a Tuesday afternoon:

4 - 2/4 LHE
6 - 1/2 NLHE
1 - 2/5 NLHE
2 - 1/2/5 PLO

Daily tournament had 112 entries.
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03-29-2013 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Abhorson
Hell, since there hasn't been a report (or a post) in about 3 months....

Was bored on Saturday and didn't feel like driving to HR, so went up around 8 pm. Room was pretty full, had 8 on a list for 2/5 and they opened a new table. Room seemed basically full. Didn't see if anything was going on in the back room. (Also, a hot chick at the brush stand, which never hurts.) Temp seemed fine to me, for a change. Chairs still suck, but at least they have some more cushions laying around. Tables looked somewhat clean(er).

I glanced at the promo board and it looks like they have lowered them. Some were 50 and some 150, but they are not doing the 599/299 thing anymore looks like, or at least not that day. They had some "jackpot" thing noted, but have no idea what that was. Some sort of bad beat?

Play was still terrible. Had 2 other players at the table who had a clue, remainder were donating. A couple of short stacks rebuying for 200 at a time, but was nice to see that all the others had full stacks. The 600 buy in is nice. You'll still die a death by 1,000 cuts if you get sloppy and start calling raises with dominated cards, because you can't pry someone off top pair with a crowbar. I think I saw one true bluff in 4 hours.

Dealers kept the game going fairly well. 1 new face I hadn't seen before, rest were the old guard. Interesting (unintentionally funny) situation was one time when someone came across with a stack of $65 looking like he intended to call the $40 bet, but then the dealer took about a minute to make him raise even though the guy said he didn't intend to (dealer looked like he didn't want to upset him). Of course, I had watched the player look at the original bet as action was coming around to him, count out 40, then add 25 on top. I guess that's what passes for semi-angle shooting in SRQ. (Of course, first bettor raised, second guy shoves with the nuts.)

If you have the patience to just play tight, you can do well. I walked around and watched a few other tables. Other 2/5 tables looked about like mine. The 1/2 looks hilarious. (People calling raises to 30 pre.)

I might give the room a shot more regularly again, although we'll have to see how it looks when summer hits.
I was in there for ten hours about a month ago playing 2/5. It is true you cannot put most of these folks off top pair. It takes a bit of getting used to, people calling pot sized bets on the end with top pair/crappy kicker.

On the other hand, well...you know. If they don't spike, you can make some nice scores.

By the way, that is a definitive angle shoot. Nothing semi about it. But it's our job to assess the likelihood they are angling, right?

As for the 1/2 playing "hilarious" with the $30 calls preflop, I agree, it is nothing I grew up playing. But in the past five years, this is a pretty common thing I see, and it is not always due to people playing poorly. Sometimes it is just the product of there being no bigger game going and it just starts playing that way. When there are a couple of decent players around and it's playing like this, I just think of it almost like a straddle.

That said, yeah, they mostly suck.
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03-29-2013 , 04:12 PM
Played there Tuesday. Quite possibly the worst chairs of any room I've played in. I played the 1pm tourney. Not a terrible tourney, they do skip some levels though. Finished 4th out of 104 (slight brag). Shoved KQc after chip leaders open, he calls and show 9 10 offsuit, flops a 9 and I'm out.

Cash games are soft and it's 30 minutes from my in-laws place. I play there at least once every trip to Florida.
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03-29-2013 , 08:15 PM
As of April 1st they will now be open on Sundays.
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03-30-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 33 Big Blinds
As of April 1st they will now be open on Sundays.
1. I guess God is dead.

2. Brilliant to wait until the moment the high season ends to do this.
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04-01-2013 , 03:21 PM
Well, I guess He was already dead between midnight and 2 am or 4 am or whatever it was.
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04-01-2013 , 04:00 PM
Well considering 90% of their customer base goes to Derby on Sunday, it seems like burning money not to be open on Sunday. Leave it to one's religious beliefs to completely ruin a business though.

I am interested to see how much this actually helps the room or if it is too late to try and break the habits of their regs driving to Derby or Hard Rock every Sunday.
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04-01-2013 , 06:16 PM
Yes, will be interesting. But I'd say don't underestimate the laziness of the Sarasota populace.

I think more people go to Derby or HR for game selection, chairs and general attractiveness of the facilities (you know what I mean - relatively speaking) versus going there out of habit. I know I've driven to HR on Fridays, frankly because it's more important to me to not have to leave a good table at 2 am or whatever.

I think the biggest thing they could do for business is go 24 hours on weekends like Derby does.

Actually, next up on the list should be the chairs, then the 24 hour weekends. Seems like they are making incremental changes (the 2/5, Sundays) so I guess there is hope.

We should have a great room by 2018 or so.
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04-02-2013 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Abhorson
Actually, next up on the list should be the chairs, then the 24 hour weekends. Seems like they are making incremental changes (the 2/5, Sundays) so I guess there is hope.

We should have a great room by 2018 or so.
Chairs? Oh c'mon. Stack enough of those $4 brown ugly pads up and it's almost because bearable for at least 15 or so minutes.

To me the most important thing it extending the hours on Fri/Sat nights. Maybe not 24 hrs, but at least until 3am or so.
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04-03-2013 , 09:18 PM
I have been to SKC a lot lately, and just not feeling it anymore. I live 35 minutes to the room and about 70 to Derby, but would rather go there or Fort Myers. I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but if you show one after a hand, you have to show both (not that I care I never do that). Players tend to throw one card in the muck and then show the other. You want to give me free info, go right ahead! I prefer to play PLO but won't play it there - guys will go 5 ways in the dark for a 3K pot, they are just gambling. I came to play cards. There are just too many cons recently. Bad chairs, high rake tourneys, angleshooters, lack of action.

As far as Sundays opening, if you own a cardroom and are religious, expect some scrutiny from any higher powers.
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04-04-2013 , 05:35 AM
Can someone tell me:

How much of the tournament entry goes to house fee for each of the tournaments?

What are the blinds structures for each of the tournaments (through level 15 at least)?

Does any of the entry go towards a tournament jackpot drop?

Thanks!

Here is the info I have so far:

$30/$20 Re-buy Entry, $10 Add-on, $4,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 20 minute blinds

$40 Entry, $10 Add-on, $10,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 20 minute blinds

$45 Entry, $10 Add-on, $12,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 15 minute blinds

$60 Entry, $10 Add-on, $12,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 25 minute blinds

$60 Turbo Entry, $10 Add-on, $12,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 12 minute blinds

$60 6-Handed Entry, $10 Add-on, $12,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 20 minute blinds

$85 ($15 Bounty) Entry, $10 Add-on, $12,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 25 minute blinds

$110 Deep Stack Entry, $10 Add-on, $25,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 25 minute blinds

$120 Sunday 25K Guarantee, $10 add-on, $15,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 30 minute blinds

$160 Entry, $10 Add-on, $15,000 + $5,000 starting chips, 30 minute blinds
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04-04-2013 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by boltonflats
Chairs? Oh c'mon. Stack enough of those $4 brown ugly pads up and it's almost because bearable for at least 15 or so minutes.

To me the most important thing it extending the hours on Fri/Sat nights. Maybe not 24 hrs, but at least until 3am or so.
Are you saying we are supposed to pay $4 to use the seat pads or that's what they cost them to buy? I used two of them when I was there a couple weeks ago. The chairs are the worst.
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04-05-2013 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Krieger
Are you saying we are supposed to pay $4 to use the seat pads or that's what they cost them to buy? I used two of them when I was there a couple weeks ago. The chairs are the worst.
Haha, no, they are free to use. I was implying they are very cheaply made and most are so flattended out by now you need at least 2 to make the chairs comfortable.
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04-06-2013 , 11:07 PM
I played here this week. Games are super soft - chairs are super hard. I mean I was sitting on a board until I could get an in demand seat cushion. Was told by the bartender that the father passed away and that the sons (who I have seen in the past drinking at the bar and betting the dogs all day) are going to be making "changes". Yeah they opened on Sunday - woo hoo. I don't understand how they can run a card room with those chairs - seems like if you want people to sit for hours and hours you need some comfortable seats. That would be my rule number one - so this seating just tells me they don't give a crap about their players. They get the same regulars who tolerate the bad seats, the crappy same old tournaments, the bad promos and the stupid house rules (like show one card show them both). I would rather drive an hour and play at the hard rock. That said - I might just but an expensive seat cushion and play here because like I said it's super soft.
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