Just got back from a 6 hour session. Jason is back and sitting 2k deep once again. The world is back to normal.

And also my mind was officially blown by how totally rude and insulting the regulars are to the fish. There was one guy at my table who was trying to have a good time and laugh and be chatty despite being stuck about 8 $200 buyins, and the `regulars` at the table were alternating between insulting his play and telling him not to talk to them when he was trying to be friendly and converse and laugh about hands. I tried to not so obviously point out what they were doing by saying to the quiet guy at the table `i think you and I need to start hating eachother to balance things out around here`but it continued and luckily the guy stuck around otherwise I would`ve lost my lid as soon as they drove him away.

My allergy to flopping sets has finally cleared up but my streak of missing roulette spins with random leftover chips after cashing out continues.

I'm a regular 5/10 player - Usually once a week at the OLG Brantford Casino.
I always see this guy whenever i'm there with a pyramid of white chips on 2/5 - black hair, looks east indian, mid 20's or early 30's. What's this guys deal? He always plays long session and always cashes for at least 3 to 4 racks.

Anyone know this guy? I was railing his play at 2/5 - really can't make any assesment - this limit is more like any 2 cards. But this guy seems to make a nice profit.

Just wondering why he won't move up in stakes if he is beating 2/5 - both games have the same rake.

Any thoughts or info on this player?

Wow, that really sucks. I have only played Brantford twice, but don't remember that much rudeness at the tables. I will say the Canadian poker players in general seem a little more surly than Americans.

Depending on how comfortable you are with confrontation, you may want to just take on the berators directly. "Will you people shut the hell up? I'm just trying to have a good time here and I have to listen to your whining." Note that you're not explicitly defending the fish, more saying that their behavior is bothering you. At the least maybe it will take some pressure off the fish and put it on you. Or, "If you can't handle your aces being cracked by 7-3 offsuit, then go over and play the $50/100 game where these things don't happen."

Another less confrontational response I've seen from someone on TpT was to ask the berators, "If he had shown you his cards after you raised preflop would you have wanted him to call your raise with 73o or fold right there?"

Hopefully, if the bearator has half a brain he will make the connection to his behavior and what he wants to see other players do.

Obviously wrangling an angry table takes some smooth operating and superior people skills because you may wind up making the situation even worse.

One final thought is to make buddy buddy with the fishy guy who wants to chat people up, and then once you're friendly, when the people berate him again you can say, "Gee, Bob, there's a lot of cranky people at this table; I'm sick of listening to them complain all the time. Usually people here are more friendly. Let's get on the table change list."

Then you can leave the table and take your fish with you.

I was there Saturday night.. I have this terrible problem of going to gamble when I am way too drunk at limits way too high. I hardly remember how I got there, I think I was almost kicked out of my friends buck n doe that night for being too drunk (whiskey everytime) I even got pied and still thought I would go to the casino after changing my clothes. I must have smelled like cake and puke.

I was such a donk. I was raising every single hand I played, and my range was huge (10/20) I never limped it seemed and some guy was criticizing my play until I literally started calling him turbo and told him to STFU it is my money and ill play how I want.. I mean at that point I already was down like 500..

Anyways he ended up busting, table broke to one last table and I went on a sick sick heater there for the last 2 hours and ended up $1500.. I think by 7am I was sober and of course everyone is talking to you like they are your best friend and just want to hang out so I should stay a lil longer.

Lol.. good times good times.. I am up over $2000 from 10/20 the last two visits, and I am not exactly the ultimate player. I get impatient, check raise a lot to bluff the turn (you would be surprised how often this works with only one or 2 people in the pot). And if I dont like someone I will call every hand and every back door made hand I possibly can just to try to beat them.

I should quit while I am ahead. When I go sober I am a nit and seem to rarely lose. My problem is there is nothing else fun to do in Brantford but drink and thats when this crazy urge to gamble comes over me. I wish I could ban myself from BJ.. I cant even count how much money I lost playing BJ.. Trying to martingale my winnings with a 100 cap isnt smart.. lol

Yeah I have never seen someone get more mad than I did last night when the fish called 2 more with 57o in the BB and flopped a straight. Its kind of sad because the guy who lost it on him has been going there regularly for 3 years or so and has absolutely no sense of manners or decorum. I was ready to jump in on the fishes side if he got visibly offended or distraught by anything that was said, but English was a bit of a struggle for him and I didnt think he was quite comprehending the scope of the dickishness he was receiving, so I was letting it slide until it visibly bothered him.

Ive seen the floor there jump down peoples throats for getting into arguments and threatening quick 86s, so I am going to save backing someone up for when it gets real serious, as I dont exactly blend into a crowd when it comes to making return trips after getting on the casinos **** list. With me being way bigger and more intimidating and outspoken than everyone else, I usually get labelled the bad guy regardless of what actually happens. Once at a concert the performer threw a personal item of his into the crowd and I caught it and instantly got attacked by 4 teenagers and fended them off with one hand while holding onto the item with the other and then when security intervened they all swarmed me and ripped it away from me and let them all get away unscathed, thinking that because I was fending off 4 people on my own and pretty much throwing them around then I must be the dumb guy who likes picking on four people by myself for fun.

Anyways I agree though that it is important to go to bat for the fish when they are being abused by stupid ego driven players who think its more important to remind everyone how much better they are than the bad players than it is to let the bad players play bad and profit from it in the long run. I learned a lot about the chief offender just from listening to his conversations with another player last night, so if he continues it in the future and it costs me potential earnings then I have plenty of ammo to rip into him with.

I think I know who you are talking about. I think you got the age part wrong. He's older than 30's.

But he buys in deep, and there aren't that many East indian guys in that room, so I think I know the guy you mean.

He's taken shots at 5/10 in the past but it seems he likes to play lots of implied odds hands (suited connectors, suited 1 gaps, small pockets, I think his range is also unsuited connectors too), which is actually smart strategy at 2/5. Get in cheap, see lots of flops, get paid when you hit big enough, fold when you miss.

I don't think he's getting a living from playing 2/5 but he seems to do alright.

There are tonnes of 'regulars' that bop between 2/5 and 5/10 depending on how they are running.

2 for 9 with sets over 13 hours last session. Wow. Roulette saved the day though at the end of it all.

Zunni - you just missed me once again. I arrived at 2 am.

That guy thinks he is a great player but he is a fish who talks like a genius. Which correctly implies that he is a fish. Two weeks ago he folded Aces before the flop.

Game 2-5 Limit

Folded around to me in middle position AJo I raise, guy to my left calls, guy to his left re raises his big slick. To his left and on the puck is the east indian guy who folds aces face up saying you guys have my outs. Then he try to explain why this made sense. Also he buys in for a lot, thats why you will see him with lots of chips.

I actually heard about the weird fold throughout the poker. I believe there was a setup change after the hand. Everyone at the table couldn't stop talking about it, so it was heard throughout the room.

I was there lastnight, he was wearing a white sweater, I think it said FCUK. Anyway, I saw him turn $200 bucks into 7 racks within 4 hours.

I was at the 5/10 and as setup was taking place on my table, I railed him for a bit. Seat 10 I think was new to the game because this hand came up.

Seat 10 UTG - Raises to 4
East Indian guy UTG + 1 re-raises to 6 with 7d 10d
4 players complete
UTG caps
all 4 again complete

Flop J 8 9 - all diamonds
UTG player who caps bets
East indian guy who flopped the nuts calls
middle position and puck both call

Turn is Ks

UTG leads out again
East Indian Raises
Middle position and puck both fold.

River Qc
UTG bets
East Indian raises
UTG re-raises
East Indian re-re-raises

No cap

UTG finally just spews $30 on the river with a straight showing 10c 3d
East Indian guy flops a straight flush.

Anyone else watch this guy last night?
I spoke to Hasan who plays at this limit with him, says he buys in deep - usually $200, but Hasan also mentioned he is a smart player. His range is Suited Connectors - Off Suit Connectors - Completes SB and Limps with big Pairs in late position - any suited cards - and 1 gappers.

In terms of folding AA preflop is it a smart play, when u are facing 3 bets cold? with a sure shot one of your outs are gone.

LOL.... I swear I have seen rocks do this on Stars.........

There's also a reg there (who I haven't seen in a while) who has been known to flip over his pocket AA's because he's always so afraid of getting drawn out on.

There are plenty of donks at Brantford that do stuff that they think makes sense to them but in reality is totally ******ed. One time a guy at my 10-20 table cold called the river 2nd to act in a 3 way pot with quads just in case the guy behind him raised so that he could reraise. I was the guy behind him and folded and I told him its usually a good idea to raise on the river when you have the absolute nuts and spawned a 10 minute argument.

5/10

I've been riding a little heater since I took 4weeks off playing. I played Friday night bought in for 240 and cashed out 450.

Went and played again last night bought in for 300 and cashed out a little under 800.

Zunni were you there Friday or Sunday night?

hmm lets see brantford.. well i lost $1,400 last week playing roulette.. worst loss ever

[x] Gambling problem

What were you betting that you found a way to lose 1400?

I was at Brantford for the first time about a month ago.. so here is my delayed Trip Report.

Despite calling in about 45 mins ahead, I still had to wait another 45 mins for a seat once I got there. I was placed at a new 5/10 table. I've never seen such a tight limit table before in my life. At one point I saw three hands in a row go chop chop. Im guessing most of the ppl who had been waiting for a table with me were regs.

After about two hours of play, a lot of the solid players moved to higher limits and the play loosened up. For the last two hours of my 6 hour session, it was routine to see 6-7 players to a flop. Night and day difference.

The funniest part of the night was when I returned to the table after my meal break. I had been reading this thread on my blackberry while waiting for my food. So when I returned I glanced around the room and tried to identify zunni based on his description. Looked and looked, but couldnt find him. A few mins later the guy to my right asks the friendly players he had been chatting to for a while if they are on any poker forums. He mentions 2p2... and says his username is zunni! So I pull out my bb which is still on the page for this thread and simply point to it and say "ya right. ive been looking all around the room for you."

Overall it was a good night. I left up $650. I'll probably be back to give the new Omaha Hi tables a try. I hope there are still some bad players learning the game by the time I get out again.

the 5-10 game there is a gold mine

LoL, if I sit Hasan will table change almost immediately. He's ultra passive, plays all kinds of old man garbage hands out of position and only bluffs when he's getting steamy.

He is still playing 2-5? I'd roll him in any 2-5 game guys a total donkey/fish

I'm going to make a trip down to Brantford next week.

Haven't been there in probably a couple of years. I still have a black players card, are these still valid or will I have to get a new one upon arrival?

Lol.. i had one of those too until a
few months ago, when I hit Sarnia.
Lady at the desk says "Where have
you been hiding?, havent seen one of these
in a while?

Do you regs think there are any pros or semi-pros that play at Brantford in the bigger games?

There are a couple of 20/40 players in Brantford who play for a living, when they spread 50/100 on Tuesdays the majority of players are pro

I don't have patience for the 5/10 game, but the 10/20 game is wicked soft there too. I played in the 20/40 twice and just ran awful. But I didn't find it to be particularly tough.

Majority of the games should be beatable if you take the time, I've never played 20/40 but usually the game is full of the same regulars day after day