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09-01-2019 , 01:28 PM

#526

Eponymous

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Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,578

Do you have a source on that, or is it just based on the fact that they haven't opened it yet?

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09-01-2019 , 01:59 PM

#527

dipce

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,845

Many rumors and few facts.
The facts point to closing the
Room and the theft of the BBJP
Funds. So someone should write
A letter to DGE to preemptively
Dissuade Ocean Casino from not giving
Out the BBJP funds to the poker
Players without notice. Second,
someone should inform the president
Of the casino that several steps
Have been taken by the
current management to destroy
The poker area. Note that they
Have taken away the cash back
Without reducing the 4 plus 2 drop.

Last edited by dipce; 09-01-2019 at 02:27 PM.

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09-01-2019 , 04:53 PM

#528

Eponymous

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Originally Posted by dipce

someone should inform the president
Of the casino that several steps
Have been taken by the
current management to destroy
The poker area.

I agree that if they don't return the collected promotional funds, that would be a big problem, but I am thinking upper management is in the decision-making loop on destroying the poker area.

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09-16-2019 , 01:04 PM

#529

luvscougars

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 212

Dipce, any new info on the fate of the room???

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09-18-2019 , 04:04 PM

#530

AALegend

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,074

So, any updates on the future of the room or on how they plan on dissipating the Bad Beat funds if they will indeed be closing it?

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09-20-2019 , 02:37 AM

#531

dipce

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,845

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Originally Posted by luvscougars

Dipce, any new info on the fate of the room???

No news. Upper management
Is not revealing their intentions.
Borgata management has
Some understanding that
$80-100+ drop per table per
Hour w/out risk of loss is
Helpful to the casino health.
Let's see if Ocean values
The contributions of poker...
About 100+ poker players will
Lose their black cards on October
1st and many may ask why...
Starting this week Ocean Casino
and most other casinos in AC
will lose a lot of money for
The next ten months. Will be
Interesting to see the owner's
reaction.

Last edited by dipce; 09-20-2019 at 02:50 AM.

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09-21-2019 , 10:15 PM

#532

NYCNative

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,551

I send a message to their Facebook for shits and giggles and asked and they responded back that while there are now limited hours in the poker room, which we already knew, they are not closing it. Take that for what it's worth.

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09-22-2019 , 03:16 AM

#533

YouFold2Me

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,895

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Originally Posted by NYCNative

Then why take the rakeback away.. literally the only reason they were getting games. Hooefully they bring it back, maybe just not give as much away.

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09-22-2019 , 10:42 AM

#534

Eponymous

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Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

Then why take the rakeback away..

Maybe they just wanted to try it without rakeback for one month to see how much falloff there would be. If they got about the same amount of business, they would probably conclude they're giving away all that cash for nothing. So the best thing you can do is stay away this month in case this is a test month.

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09-22-2019 , 02:24 PM

#535

YouFold2Me

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Originally Posted by Eponymous

I have 2 hours this month

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09-22-2019 , 03:31 PM

#536

NYCNative

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I understand all of that however if the Rakeback meant the room was not profitable and it's also not profitable without it, that won't leave Ocean with many options. It doesn't make sense for them to have a poker room as a loss leader.

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09-22-2019 , 04:37 PM

#537

kc1988

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 78

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Originally Posted by Eponymous

I believe the rakeback was paid out of the $2 bad beat jackpot drop so, money wise, it didn't matter to the casino.

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09-22-2019 , 04:42 PM

#538

sevencard2003

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,642

rakeback? had nothing to do with why i played there. often i left town before i could even pick up the rakeback, since its like a month wait. it was cause i got 3 nights FREE per week in the hotel and u want as many casino options as possible in case u get ahead so much u want to hit and run and play next door.

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09-22-2019 , 04:52 PM

#539

Eponymous

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Originally Posted by kc1988

I believe the rakeback was paid out of the $2 bad beat jackpot drop so, money wise, it didn't matter to the casino.

For those who want rakeback to be brought back, then it makes sense to show a drop off in business when it is removed. They would see that it was a promotion that was popular. It doesn't matter where the money came from. If rakeback proves to not be a driver of business, they could very well use it for some other promotion, perhaps to build the bad beat jackpot up faster.

Promotional money is used to promote business, so if it doesn't work, they'll see it as a waste paying out that promotional money.

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09-22-2019 , 05:48 PM

#540

djevans

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5,045

I played in this room back in April. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole casino shut down. It was a ghost town. It's a shame because the casino is pretty nice, and every one was helpful. Harrah's had more traffic than this place.

The regs just seemed like rakeback grinders. Very little action at my tables, and some lady refused to pay $15 that she lost. I think she got banned.

Never got to play the 2/5 games at Oceans, but action was good at borgata 2/5 so I didn't really see a reason to play here after 2 days of grinding.

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09-23-2019 , 09:15 AM

#541

cockpit

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Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,370

Good for them for finally realizing that the high comps and rakeback brought in a bunch of people who just sat there collecting rewards without putting money in the pot. They generated no action and no rake for the house, and discouraged action players from going there.

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09-23-2019 , 03:16 PM

#542

YouFold2Me

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Originally Posted by cockpit

This is true. Hopefully they revamp the system. Giving a little less away as far as rakeback

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09-23-2019 , 03:26 PM

#543

AALegend

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Originally Posted by cockpit

That's why High Hands or just less rake (i.e. $1 promo instead of $2 promo) are way better...

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09-23-2019 , 05:11 PM

#544

luvscougars

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 212

They also destroyed the Tier credit accrual rate making it almost impossible for poker players to get a black card again

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09-24-2019 , 05:29 PM

#545

dipce

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,845

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Originally Posted by luvscougars

They also destroyed the Tier credit accrual rate making it almost impossible for poker players to get a black card again

The blowback ,
Of the much reduced and delayed
Tier credit accumulation,
will also come in the form
Of loss of gamblers who will
End up at Tropicana or
Borgata, that now give
Poker players complimentary
Rooms easier

Last edited by dipce; 09-24-2019 at 05:35 PM.

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09-26-2019 , 08:19 PM

#546

NYCNative

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,551

Just tried to get a room on a Sunday or Monday in November and they wouldn't comp me so oh well. Guess I'll stay and play cards in Philly.

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10-02-2019 , 12:03 PM

#547

tommccabe

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 167

So what happened to the room on Oct 1? I see a wait list on Bravo. Is it remaining open?

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10-02-2019 , 08:47 PM

#548

dc_publius

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,308

The formula for a successful room in AC has been tested very well at Borgata: rooms (which costs almost nothing if casino is not booked full), food lounge (where the cost is pretty minimal) and do not rape the players with rake. (and that includes no flop/no drop)

This is by far the nicest casino on the Boardwalk and arguably all of AC but they are just plain greedy and poorly managed. The slot players also feel this as their slot selection sucks and I am pretty sure has lower payout %. (Does anyone know if slot payouts % are disclosed to Gaming and the public?)

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10-03-2019 , 03:26 AM

#549

YouFold2Me

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,895

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Originally Posted by tommccabe

So what happened to the room on Oct 1? I see a wait list on Bravo. Is it remaining open?

Still open... Played yesterday for 3 hours with 3 pals. no game til almost 2pm.. we each won the HH 3 hrs in a row..
Lately games have been better now that the rakeback whores have left. On Tuesday the 1-2 was playing like a 5-10.. and there was about 5k on the table.

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10-03-2019 , 11:15 AM

#550

djevans

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Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

Oh nice. Glad they got rid of the rakeback. I might play here next time i'm in town and do some drinking at the table with people that will actually drink with me.

Maybe we can get an omaha game going too.

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