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06-18-2019 , 07:21 PM
Dipce, serious question: why the heck do you play there? It sounds awful. I keep coming back here hoping for some awesome updates so I can go back to Ocean one day but every post in this thread repels me. I'd swear we met at the buffet the day I tier-matched, and we complained about the food. (It was comically bad that day.)

I can tolerate some crap (I'm a Borg reg) but this all sounds infuriating. What's the draw?
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06-18-2019 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lagavulin16
Dipce, serious question: why the heck do you play there? It sounds awful. I keep coming back here hoping for some awesome updates so I can go back to Ocean one day but every post in this thread repels me. I'd swear we met at the buffet the day I tier-matched, and we complained about the food. (It was comically bad that day.)

I can tolerate some crap (I'm a Borg reg) but this all sounds infuriating. What's the draw?
Ocean Casino has the best comps,
The best games (in July and August 2018),
The best room offers,
By far, the best "crazy cash back,"
The best gifts,
And the most experienced
And best dealers and staff.
(Who I have been sufficiently
Intimate with in the past 25 years,
That I have a high comfort level.)
Remember, those of us that
Sacrificed and put in the hours
In July, August, and September
Of 2018, have a black card, which
Has great value to the loyal player.
Also they have the most beautiful
And youngest cocktail waitresses,
Many of whom still are warm and
Sweet, and aim to please.
The William Hill sportsbook
Is beyond awesome. And
The player card center knows
Me and is always helpful...
That said, Ocean Casino is not
a good fit for the Borg prima donnas that
Will be shocked at everything
That doesn't work as expected here.

Last edited by dipce; 06-18-2019 at 07:59 PM.
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06-18-2019 , 08:36 PM
Fair enough. Thanks for the thorough answer. Maybe I'll pop my head back in in a couple of weeks.
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06-18-2019 , 11:16 PM
Since I've been taking it out on Ocean recently, wanted to stick up for them a bit: I overall feel like Ocean has the most potential out of any of the casinos in AC at the moment -- their property is new, so it hasn't seen the years of cigarette smoke that all the other places have, and some of the restaurants are excellent. The gaming is reasonable, and overall the clientele seems nicer than most places -- less douchey than Borgata, less sketchy than Tropicana. I feel like the staff gives a damn, basically.

That said, I think the management and ownership is suspect -- the small hedge fund that owns them has no other gaming ties, so I'm not sure they're going to be able to figure out how to turn a profit, and I'm worried it'll close again in another year or two. I can take or leave the poker room, it's an eight table installation surrounded by noise and smoke, so I mean, I'm happy enough to just gamble a bit in their pit and take an Uber to the Borgata if I want a real poker game.

As far as the guy going south goes, I'm not sure that it is against the rules, but the guy in question does a number of other shady things -- pretty sure he's the reason we now have to post blinds, for instance, and he's the guy I told a story about *literally* stealing the button earlier in this thread. Even if the ratholing is within the letter of the law, it's terrible for the room to have him in there. So I mean, 86 him for the button stealing, I don't really care, but it's the same thing as the rest of this casino -- they need to have a strategy that's bigger than "we're so desperate for action we're going to let people do whatever they want so we can make $5/hour off them in rake net of comps and cashback." I'm not even sure they're making that much, when you factor in all of the overhead for floors and shufflemasters and so on.
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06-19-2019 , 05:28 AM
The cash back is paid from the BBJP funds
it's $4 plus $2.
The $4 goes straight to the
Casino every day, about $5,000
a day. The $2 pays for the
High hand promotions, the
BBJP, and the cash back.
None of the cash back
Comes out of the casino profit
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06-19-2019 , 09:04 AM
Happy to hear that one of the grumpy old regs got 86’d... guy was a total jerk, always mouthing off to dealers because everything was there fault.. long story short, a normal reg hits high hand, goes to podium to give license and card. Accidentally leave wallet on ledge of podium. Not 2 mins go by, grumpy reg finds wallet, makes b-line to bathroom. Takes all the money out, throws wallet away.. eye in the sky nails him shortly after
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06-19-2019 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by YouFold2Me
Happy to hear that one of the grumpy old regs got 86’d... guy was a total jerk, always mouthing off to dealers because everything was there fault.. long story short, a normal reg hits high hand, goes to podium to give license and card. Accidentally leave wallet on ledge of podium. Not 2 mins go by, grumpy reg finds wallet, makes b-line to bathroom. Takes all the money out, throws wallet away.. eye in the sky nails him shortly after
Wow, what a d-bag. Hopefully he doesn't end up regging at the Borgata now.
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06-19-2019 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
Since I've been taking it out on Ocean recently, wanted to stick up for them a bit:

That said, I think the management and ownership is suspect -- the small hedge fund that owns them has no other gaming ties, so I'm not sure they're going to be able to figure out how to turn a profit...
Thank goodness you're
Not another troll from Borgata.
1/ the hedge fund can turn
A profit by selling the casino.
Which they may do on September 23rd,
When AC turns into a ghost town for
The next 10 months...
2/ last night I fell asleep
While waiting on the phone
To make a hotel reservation.
This morning I only waited
20 minutes.
3/ a lot of the bad apple / problem
Players play at Ocean Casino Resort
Because they've been kicked
Out of all the other casinos. Slowly,
They've been kicked out of Ocean
Too, leaving behind many humorous
Stories.

Last edited by dipce; 06-19-2019 at 09:43 AM.
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06-19-2019 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dipce
Thank goodness you're
Not another troll from Borgata.
I'm thinking about taking some 2/5 shots sometime soon, so I may have to put up with the chips and the people and go to Borgata, but I definitely consider Ocean home base in AC.

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Originally Posted by dipce
3/ a lot of the bad apple / problem
Players play at Ocean Casino Resort
Because they've been kicked
Out of all the other casinos. Slowly,
They've been kicked out of Ocean
Too, leaving behind many humorous
Stories.
I sincerely hope this is the case (that the bad apples are being kicked out of Ocean, too). Can't happen soon enough, IMO, I think there's plenty of decent regulars that can encourage management to get rid of the bad apples and then still maintain a healthy poker ecosystem. Looking forward to it.
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06-19-2019 , 11:40 AM
All I know is that Ocean is the only room in AC that gives me comp weekday/Sunday rooms. As long as they do that, I'll bring the family out, eat in their restaurants, tip their employees and play as many hours of poker I can while there.
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06-22-2019 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dipce
Looks like they want
To make the black card
3 times harder to get
For October 1
Poker players can
Finally see their
Tier points online.
It appears that poker
Players are making
25 tier points/ hour
Since poker players
Last saw their daily
Poker tier points. This
Means the black card
Will be unattainable
For most, for the
New year beginning
October 1st, 2019.
Despite not being
Able to retain the
Black card, I am
satisfied overall
With this casino
And highly recommend
It either as a poker
Destination or a family
Hotel room for those
Seeking to be by the
Beach and Ocean
This Summer.

Last edited by dipce; 06-22-2019 at 03:08 PM.
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06-23-2019 , 12:54 AM
I noticed that the language on the gifts (I got a couple in May '19, but haven't been back in June) for June '19 says that Poker Comp Dollars do not count for the daily gifts (i.e. earn $6, get a blender types of promos). Dipce, did you have success getting the staff at player's club still getting you those gifts or did you instead play other games?
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06-23-2019 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AALegend
I noticed that the language on the gifts (I got a couple in May '19, but haven't been back in June) for June '19 says that Poker Comp Dollars do not count for the daily gifts (i.e. earn $6, get a blender types of promos). Dipce, did you have success getting the staff at player's club still getting you those gifts or did you instead play other games?
I get the gifts in June
Without having to play.
I have put some money
In the slot machine
In the past year.
(My May offers required
Earning a certain number
Of comps, but my June
Offers do not require
Earning any comps.)
--------------------
By making the black card
Unattainable for 2019-2020
I've reduced my play by 90%
And will spend more
Time on the boardwalk
this Summer.

Last edited by dipce; 06-23-2019 at 04:54 AM.
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06-25-2019 , 03:45 PM
Bit of a brag, although I think it's relevant -- I made the points to reach Gold on my last trip two weekends ago, and then got an email last night saying they upgraded me to Platinum instead.

So, pumped to check out the VIP lounge! But I think the other thing about it is that they'll make you a come-back offer eventually dipce, if they're upgrading me -- I'm small potatoes to them, I just did my first half accounting for 2019 and I've tallied a grand total of 50 hours, about half and half between pit gambling and poker. You just have to be worth more to them than me.
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06-25-2019 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
Bit of a brag, although I think it's relevant -- I made the points to reach Gold on my last trip two weekends ago, and then got an email last night saying they upgraded me to Platinum instead.

So, pumped to check out the VIP lounge! But I think the other thing about it is that they'll make you a come-back offer eventually dipce, if they're upgrading me -- I'm small potatoes to them, I just did my first half accounting for 2019 and I've tallied a grand total of 50 hours, about half and half between pit gambling and poker. You just have to be worth more to them than me.
I got that email while I was sitting at a poker table in their room. I really don't understand it actually. All I have done is take advantage of free slot play and matches, play $1/2 and one night I dropped a hundred bucks at blackjack.

I am just hopeful I can keep getting room offers. That's all I really want.
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06-25-2019 , 06:10 PM
Trip Report
Ocean Resort & Casino
6/23-6/24

Revulsion and Redemption


Ocean is the only place who sends me free rooms anymore so I am trying to take advantage of them. A couple months ago I got the offers through the end of June and I jumped at the last days I could get a room, in this case Sunday. When my wife had ideas about staying Monday - not for the night but to have a home base for her and our son while I was playing even more cards (she is a keeper) when they were tired of hitting the Boardwalk, but they wanted $150 so we passed, but they said we could ask again as things change.

The wife gets off work at 3:30 on Sunday so we headed out almost immediately afterwards. It was interesting seeing all the traffic coming from AC while we had a clear path going.

Check-in had a long line but it moved pretty swiftly. Without requesting it we got on the 43rd floor which the wife loved because she loves those views.

My son's 17th birthday was the day before and he likes buffets so we took him to the one at Caesar's because it was on the Boardwalk and had crab legs. The only good thing about that is even he now realizes buffets mostly suck.

Got back to the hotel and digested the malicious meal (I literally had to purchase Pepto from the hotel for my wife and myself) before heading out to the poker room.

The organization left a lot to be desired. I called ahead but when I got there I wasn't on the list, They said I was but a game broke so everyone at the game who didn't get on a table were listed in front of me. I sat around for a while until it looked like they would open a new game but then they said they didn't have a dealer. So we sat around some more while the list spiraled out of control (there had to be 15 people on it) until finally they opened the new table.

I played from around 11 PM until around 4 AM. Lost $400, almost all of it on two hands.

I limped middle position with ducks. Six to a flop of A72 all spades. Bet ten bucks. One caller. Turn 7. Bet $25, call. The river is a fourth spade. Bet $40 for value. Villain shoves for $118 more. Call. Villain has A7. I think I could have gotten away from it on the river, but it's hard to fold a boat on a four-flush board at $1/2 and A7 was the only hand I could see him holding that beat me.

Much later on after adding on $100 and hovering between $150 and $250, two drunk mooks showed up and sat on either side of me. They're both splashy but the guy on my immediate right is shoving all in with a full stack without looking practically every hand. I envisioned this might be a good way to get unstuck.

He shoves all-in while in the big blind and the dealer just kind of shrugs. Under the gun, I see Kings. I shove all-in and figure I'll let the dealer figure it out.

Short stack girl has forty bucks and also goes all-in. Don't care, still looking for a double up. It folds around to him and I asked if that was binding, pointing to the chips still pushed to the front. The dealer makes a motion that it kind of is. Fine.

I flip up my Kings, short stack girl flips up Ace-Eight, drunk doesn't flip. The flop is all hearts with an Ace and an eight. The turn is a king, which is good; but it's the King of hearts, which is not. The river doesn't pair. Instead, it's yet another heart.

Drunk blind all-in player doesn't flip his cards over. I know I'm beat with just about any hand he could flip over, and at best we're all chopping it up if he doesn't win. Regardless, I just want to get it over with.

Drunk dude refuses to flip his cards over. Finally after about a minute, the floor is summoned and she and he start going at it. I just want somebody to flip over his ****ing cards so I could see what I lost two and I can get the **** out of this poker room.

Finally, after literally about 4-5 minutes of increasing frustration, he finally manages to flip over his cards. 54 off suit. The four is a heart.

Being unable to just leave the room until that happened, was almost assuredly the most frustrating thing I've ever dealt with in a poker room. But I finally did. It can be argued that the dealer and floor could have been more forceful in dealing with the situation.

(Side note: I found out the next day from someone at another table while this was going on that after I left either him or his almost-as-drunk colleague proceeded to spend all night getting it in bad and winning nearly every time. Fun game!)

Earlier in the day I called the Ocean reservations and was able to get a second night comped which was great as it would give all of us more time to do stuff.

I slept in longer than I might have otherwise and we wound up on the Boardwalk. Had a great time with the family on the Steel Pier and just walking around. We were gonna grab food at the Landshark Resorts bar but they said it was an hour and fifteen minute wait! It was beautiful out but still it was a June Monday at 3:00 PM. Either the death of AC is overstated or the Landshark is hiring.

We wound up at another place on the boardwalk. My burger was good, my wife's Blackened Tuna Sandwich wasn't.

The family went back to the room and I went back to the poker table armed with $300 in red and an extra hundred to add on if necessary. Fortunately, it was not necessary.

After only a few hands I was dealt Kings and for two streets of value with a hand that by the river became a full house (KKK99). I flipped it up after villain folded for table image but suddenly someone yells "High hand!" Apparently my hand qualified for the hourly High Hand Promotion. Usually a hand this weak wouldn't be expected to hold up but it was at 6:56 PM so four minutes later, I was up $100.

There were some very aggressive players at the table and I was able to take advantage of them. One guy, who looked Hispanic but he said he was Chinese, was very aggressive, raising most hands preflop, usually for large amounts. He was volatile so when he raised to $15 and I saw tens, I decided to just call. I knew he would call any three-bet and the thought of being out of position against him with a board of overcards was not enticing.

I told myself that tens were too good to set-mine so when the board came out 6-high rainbow and he made a big bet into it, I immediately raised to $175, which was a pretty big bet. He called, leaving him about $200 behind though I had him covered.

Turn is an Ace which is gross, even more so when he shoves. He definitively could have had an Ace here but I decided that given I already had half my stack in the middle and knowing he was capable of doing this with nothing much, I called. I forget what the river was and I never asked him to show his cards (I would find out that he was a bit of a hot head so I am glad in retrospect I didn't go that route) but when I flipped over my tens he said he was on a straight draw and mucked. That was the biggest pot I won in a long time and doing so by making a read and having it be correct was very satisfying as my list of big pots is filled with the usual monsters and coolers and the odd suck-out.

Told myself I would play until the Yankee game was over (had to stream it on my phone - they can't spring for the YES Network?) and when it finally ended, the guy to my right was $5,000 richer (how much he won for a parlay with the O/U on runs scored in the game, a soccer match and something else) and I had exactly $999 in front of me plus the extra $100 in my pocket, an $800 profit that turned my $400 loss for my "weekend" into a gain of the same amount.

While I was playing I got an email from Ocean congratulating me on being Platinum, which is hilarious to me. I am just hoping that I can keep getting room offers Sunday through Thursday since I only play $1/2.

After the Yankees won I went up to the room and did an early check-out. I would have loved to stay the night but I had to work at 8 AM the next day. I was told that they needed the room right then so they were happy to see us go, though that did make me think maybe getting the second night was not supposed to happen. It allowed me and the family a lot more fun and me to turn a profit so I won't complain!
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06-25-2019 , 07:49 PM
Nice TR!

I think your HH probably would've faded even a longer time -- I think any house may be good enough when it's only 1-2 tables and no qualifier.

We're a bit greedier I guess, I'm getting Sunday to Friday at the moment and hoping to someday get Saturdays. Just tough to get down there during the week for me, so being able to go for Friday/Saturday night would be really nice.
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06-26-2019 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
Bit of a brag, although I think it's relevant -- I made the points to reach Gold on my last trip two weekends ago, and then got an email last night saying they upgraded me to Platinum instead.

So, pumped to check out the VIP lounge! But I think the other thing about it is that they'll make you a come-back offer eventually dipce, if they're upgrading me -- I'm small potatoes to them, I just did my first half accounting for 2019 and I've tallied a grand total of 50 hours, about half and half between pit gambling and poker. You just have to be worth more to them than me.
I'm going to have to play more in July.
I got a dozen free gift offers,
Match plays, dining dollars,
And complimentary rooms Sunday
To Friday!

Last edited by dipce; 06-26-2019 at 10:10 AM.
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06-26-2019 , 09:50 PM
Fridays in July hard to get. I tried the 5th and 12th, no go. I didn't try the next two weeks because I'll be in Italy (Yay!), but I was able to book a Friday in August no problem. This casino is still taking care of poker players.
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06-27-2019 , 09:12 AM
Already locked up July 12 and 19 earlier this week, glad I did.

Definitely need to book further out, I discovered this after trying to book the week before for a few weeks in June. I think I'm probably going to book the rest of my summer Fridays in the next week or two.
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06-29-2019 , 06:42 PM
I got two rooms a week through July 30 in the most recent mailer. I don't think I can take advantage of it but it bodes well for August and certainly for the off-season.
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06-29-2019 , 06:46 PM
Wow, you got Saturdays?! Nice!
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06-29-2019 , 07:06 PM
I didn't say that! But I got Sundays and Fridays (though I cannot do Fridays).
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07-14-2019 , 08:32 PM
Just out of curiosity, who else played the 2/5 game this past Friday night/Saturday morning? I was the three seat with my fiancée behind me. If I hadn't woken up at 7am I would've played all night, but working life does not agree with me!
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07-15-2019 , 06:47 AM
Is rakeback available for pickup this week?
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