Planning to go play some 1/2 at Niagara on Tuesday night. How many tables typically run on weekdays? How active are the 35$ SNGs?

They have no tournaments of any kind other then the annual Fallsview Classic in Jan.

I think that would be the point- to kill it.. Seneca's have owed NYS and Niagara Falls 70 million dollars. They just haven't payed them due to greed.

They just haven't payed them due to the fact that the compact was violated in the form of slot parlors being opened up in Buffalo and Batavia. The Senecas, under Gov. Pataki, were to be given exclusive gaming rights in WNY until 2016, I believe. Whether or not the compact was good, bad, or whatever is up for debate, but an agreement is an agreement. Personally, it would be interesting if a private developer (Harrah's, MGM, etc.) came along and funded a Niagara Falls project. The idea would be to cripple the Seneca casino, and not so much draw in new gaming revenue from outside locations. As it stands, with no money being put back into the surrounding neighborhoods, the Seneca casino is simply draining the locals. Competition might be a good thing. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. If Casino Niagara does close their poker room, I believe a second Niagara Falls, NY casino could have the potential to be profitable, and provide the Senecas with a good reason to make upgrades to their facilities.

They are actually $500 million in arrears. The withholding of local share is killing both the Niagara Falls and Salamanca governments. I don't think Niagara Falls could sustain another destination resort financially. The proliferation of convenience gaming venues throughout the northeast is rapidly eroding the market share of traditional gaming destinations like AC. I just wish they would put a poker room in the new Buffalo Casino, but it appears that will never happen.

It think they might considering that they are adding tables to it. Maybe they'll keep if at a low-limit limit game like 2/4 or 3/6 and not host tournaments.

Unfortunately the poker room is run by a separate company (Seneca gaming and entertainment) than the rest of the casino (Seneca gaming corporation), and SGC has historically viewed SGE as a nuisance. SGE poker is actually just a tenant at Seneca Niagara, and they were kicked out of Seneca Allegany in favor of an everything costs $10 store, which is why they are now down the road at the SGE bingo hall. An SGE poker room wouldn't be viewed as a good use of SGC's limited square footage at Seneca Creek, and SGE would be concerned about cannibalizing their business in the Falls even if they were offered the space. Which all adds 20 minutes each way to my drive to play poker : (

Interesting, I never knew that SGC and SGE were two different entities.

Yes if play the poker or play table games the chips are different. The poker chips look like they were bought years ago and or as worn out as many 1 dollar bills in circulation. Also poker never gave points for years. It's interesting the politics behind another casino that Niagara Falls area can't support financially. I know the Buffalo casino essentially destroyed the Fort Erie slot casino.

Agreed Lefty. It appears as if this is a threat being used by Cuomo as a catalyst to settle the exclusivity payment stalemate.

When the room first opened they were one entity and used the same chips the floor used. At some point they split them ( I forget when maybe a year after? maybe 2?) This enabled them to operate "outside" the rules of the casino.Such as you noted a different point system. Everything the poker room gets is a "courtesy" , hence why you only see one drink girl, technically they work for the casino.
Another big difference is the dealers don't nee to pool tips, on the floor they do.
Also the poker chips were purchased long after the floor chips were. The floor whoever rotates many new chips in while I don't think the poker room does. Lastly poker players "play" with there chips more so they get much more wear on them.

Since I'm a reg I can tell you why they don't open the table "usually" its because they don't have the staff to do it. Just because you see a dealer standing around doesn't mean he's got nothing to do.
Who was running the board? skinny blonde?

Anyone know the cheapest way to get a room for the night at Seneca?(I don't want to stay at a nearby hotel unless it is connected)
I am stuck out here due to snow.

They have a special on their website for 85 a night. You need to use a code. Obviously if you gamble for huge stakes at rigged table games you will get a comped room too..

Seneca gives nothing for poker players. If you got the roll go get like a 5k marker and say your stuck here for the night and want to play. They will comp you one.

I dont know why they would ever close Casino Niagara when it seems it costs not a whole lot to run and Fallsview is one of the top earning casinos in North America (or so I hear). What else could they do with the space?

Have you ever seen the foot traffic at the casino? It's near dead. Also it gets very few tourists. I think the thinking is once Toronto or an outer suburb gets a casino the city won't be big enough to have two casinos.

Planning to go to Seneca this weekend is the poker room busier than usual due to their Tournament running this week? How many runners did they have for their first few tournaments? Are the cash games any busier with the added traffic?

See the tournament thread for the report...also, the night tournament didn't fare too well...71 runners for a $120, with 155 showing up for the $230. I played in the night tournament, and I swear you would have thought Seneca was giving a discount to Canadian players. Seemed like 50 of the 71 people were from Canada. Im sure the ones who cashed are still at the poker window crying about the 30% tax...

Why would you complain that we support your events? Every tournament Seneca has is strongly supported by Canadians.

Can someone tell me when craps tables open on weekends at fallsview?

Craps tables are 24/7 at Fallsview. Every time I have walked the floor they have one going with drunks acting like jack asses when a shooter is running hot.

Just moved to the Toronto area from the states...Which casino has the better 2/5 game, Fallsview or Seneca? Also, does either have internet reliable enough to grind if I stay a night or two?

Thanks

Fallsview by far has the better games. Many times the New York state side has a short handed game or no game but a waiting list. Fallsview gets tourists and Toronto fish with money.

Fallsview has an absolutely beautiful Casino, awesome restaurants and entertainment area.

It's a real shame that the staff at the poker room are total idiots !! I've been there many times where you are waiting to let them know you called in and want to sign in for your table. There are 3 suits right in front of you that are having a private conversation and they are totally ignoring you.

When it gets busy in there, the suits are rude to their guests and don't resolve issues. They avoid them at all costs. If regulars start swearing and acting like an ass at the tables - they do nothing !!

When they just had their poker classic tournament series. They were very busy and started shutting down all the 2-5 games. They didn't care about what the players thought. They said and I quote, " If you don't like it, LEAVE ".

I have not gone back and do not recommend to anyone going to this horrible casino. It's a real shame because the facility is beautiful !!

Seneca is better because they WANT your business and treat their players with respect.

Brantford, although a small only limit cash games casino are very good to their players. They run decent tournaments. Pretty fishy, good for the pocket book.