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05-29-2024 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteJesus
Are you talking about all that grassy area? Or just the stadium and surronding parking lots.
He's talking about this

https://slate.com/human-interest/201...ighorhood.html. Buying it all out, and demolishing it, plus the waterfront, which needs an easement from Ramos. There's a lot of untapped potential there. NYC has been trying to redevelop that area my entire lifetime
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05-29-2024 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
She opposes it because he constituents are heavily against it. I fight with them on Reddit about this issue and get downvoted into oblivion if I ever express a pro-gaming POV
Shae is well separated from residential areas with major highways on every side of it. It's not like a gambler can walk to someone's house from the casino, it's impossible unless you run across an 8 lane highway.
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05-29-2024 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
He's talking about this

https://slate.com/human-interest/201...ighorhood.html. Buying it all out, and demolishing it, plus the waterfront, which needs an easement from Ramos. There's a lot of untapped potential there. NYC has been trying to redevelop that area my entire lifetime
The idea, I think, is that the casino-centered redevelopment of the stadium's parking lot will spur redevelopment in the surrounding area, which has been on the city's wishlist for ages. The wider Willets Point area isn't the Ramos/Cohen issue.

The casino proposal is for basically north from the 7 train to the highway, east of the stadium. The parking lots are technically parkland, and state law doesn't allow parkland to be swapped for gambling. The bill to make the allowance in this case is what Cohen needs from Ramos. She's saying sure, replace the parking lots with development and green space, just not a casino. As if any fraction of these casino proposals will ever exist without the casino.
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05-29-2024 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
He's talking about this

https://slate.com/human-interest/201...ighorhood.html. Buying it all out, and demolishing it, plus the waterfront, which needs an easement from Ramos. There's a lot of untapped potential there. NYC has been trying to redevelop that area my entire lifetime
Ohhhh, so buy out all the auto shops, tear it down and build casino space/parking? Oh ok that makes more sense lol.
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05-29-2024 , 08:39 PM
If I said it once I said it a thousand times. The "state" already knows where the casinos are going and who will be operating them, as I've said before. The politicians work for their handlers, who control them very easily with money. Money is the route of all evil. I'm taking side action that the existing "racinos" in NYC (yonkers isn't NYC) will be full casinos after all's said and done. I jus kno to much (that's all I can say atm rn).
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05-29-2024 , 09:51 PM
Why the excessive waste of time for the shoe in racinos? They could be up and operating within a few months
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05-30-2024 , 11:50 AM
With the news yesterday, I think the clear favorites are

Wynn in Hudson Yards
Resorts World Queens
MGM in Yonkers

Seems like there is too much opposition to the Times Square proposal, otherwise, I would consider that the favorite for the 3rd license
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05-30-2024 , 08:09 PM
Id take those three happily, just one manhattan joint lol
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06-09-2024 , 09:21 AM
https://www.playusa.com/legislation-...state-casinos/

Assuming Hochul signs looks like we finally have an updated timeline. 12/31/25 latest date for applications due, which means 3/31/26 latest date licenses granted. Of course could just be changed again at anytime but Iím gonna remain hopeful for cards in the air at resorts and empire in summer 26
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06-09-2024 , 10:26 AM
Hochul has until the end of the year to sign (or not) the 800+ bills the legislature has passed this session.

It sets the application deadline at 8/31/25. Then the community advisory committee for each has to be established within 30 days, and has 120 days from establishment to approve or not.

12/31/25 (with a possible 30-day extension) is the deadline for the location board to recommend winners to the gaming commission, which then has 30 days (with a possible 30-day extension) to grant the licenses. All of which leads to the 3/31/26 latest license date. Since there aren't 150 days between 8/31 and 12/31, taking the extensions seems guaranteed.

https://trackbill.com/bill/new-york-...enses/2553817/
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06-09-2024 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
Wynn in Hudson Yards
My NY office is in Hudson Yards. Also Bally's in Chicago is going to be c. 5m walk from my Chicago office (assuming it opens).

This is good.

Where exactly in HY is the proposal for? Link?
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06-09-2024 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dilly_
12/31/25 latest date for applications due, which means 3/31/26 latest date licenses granted.
That sweet sweet Homestar money.
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06-09-2024 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteJesus
Ohhhh, so buy out all the auto shops, tear it down and build casino space/parking? Oh ok that makes more sense lol.
most of them are gone already. space isn't an issue around citi field no matter how much you seem to want it to be
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06-09-2024 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGramuel
Where exactly in HY is the proposal for? Link?
Google is my friend.

https://www.wynnnewyorkcity.com/

Office is *right* there.
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06-10-2024 , 08:01 AM
question for you new york guys and gals,

are you at all concerned about companies like Wynn (and to some extent MGM) running poker in NYC?

Its pretty clear from my experience in Massachusetts that these companies do not care one bit about poker, poker players. I can't imagine the rake being any better if not worse than Mass and its pretty clear when there isn't clear competition (like Vegas) its going to be a shitshow for the poker community.

IMO one of the worst things to happen to New England Poker has been letting corporate casinos have a monopoly.

I wishing you the best and having lived in NYC for ten years will be crossing my fingers that this isn't the case. wishing you luck.
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06-10-2024 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MuchoGood
question for you new york guys and gals,

are you at all concerned about companies like Wynn (and to some extent MGM) running poker in NYC?

Its pretty clear from my experience in Massachusetts that these companies do not care one bit about poker, poker players. I can't imagine the rake being any better if not worse than Mass and its pretty clear when there isn't clear competition (like Vegas) its going to be a shitshow for the poker community.

IMO one of the worst things to happen to New England Poker has been letting corporate casinos have a monopoly.

I wishing you the best and having lived in NYC for ten years will be crossing my fingers that this isn't the case. wishing you luck.
I think most of us assume thereís going to be these types of issues regardless of which companies are running the rooms. My guess is $10 cap rake minimum. Iím personally under the belief there will be at least two large poker rooms when the three casinos open, but plenty people question whether there will be poker at all.

If they do have poker it just becomes a question of if the games being better and not having to commute to Parx/AC offset the rake
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06-10-2024 , 09:36 AM
What's the rake at the first round of commercial rooms upstate?

Is it not set by the state like in NJ?
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06-10-2024 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
What's the rake at the first round of commercial rooms upstate?

Is it not set by the state like in NJ?
Rivers Schenectady, Resorts World Catskills, and Turning Stone all have different rake (Rivers having a particularly unique staggered structure). Plus I havenít seen any language that suggest uniform rake across the stake.

I just canít imagine , particularly from MGM, they donít go with very high rake, for all the same reasons weíre excited for the rooms. High traffic rooms in one of the wealthiest areas in the world with some of the wealthiest tourists and business travelers in the world
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06-10-2024 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
Hochul has until the end of the year to sign (or not) the 800+ bills the legislature has passed this session.

It sets the application deadline at 8/31/25. Then the community advisory committee for each has to be established within 30 days, and has 120 days from establishment to approve or not.

12/31/25 (with a possible 30-day extension) is the deadline for the location board to recommend winners to the gaming commission, which then has 30 days (with a possible 30-day extension) to grant the licenses. All of which leads to the 3/31/26 latest license date. Since there aren't 150 days between 8/31 and 12/31, taking the extensions seems guaranteed.

https://trackbill.com/bill/new-york-...enses/2553817/
Way back when over 700 posts ago I took the over on all the estimates. Someone else suggested 2025. I agreed that was as earliest would happen. Wheels turn incredibly slow in NYC.
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06-10-2024 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGramuel
That sweet sweet Homestar money.
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06-10-2024 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MuchoGood
question for you new york guys and gals,

are you at all concerned about companies like Wynn (and to some extent MGM) running poker in NYC?

Its pretty clear from my experience in Massachusetts that these companies do not care one bit about poker, poker players. I can't imagine the rake being any better if not worse than Mass and its pretty clear when there isn't clear competition (like Vegas) its going to be a shitshow for the poker community.

IMO one of the worst things to happen to New England Poker has been letting corporate casinos have a monopoly.

I wishing you the best and having lived in NYC for ten years will be crossing my fingers that this isn't the case. wishing you luck.
The problem is, we don't really have a choice. If you think the rake is bad at Encore, let me take you to an underground room in NYC. $20 is low.

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06-10-2024 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
Shae is well separated from residential areas with major highways on every side of it. It's not like a gambler can walk to someone's house from the casino, it's impossible unless you run across an 8 lane highway.
If by " Shae" you mean Citi Field this isn't true at all. I've gone to Mets games where I park a 10-15 min walk away in residential neighborhood without going near a highway.
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06-10-2024 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MuchoGood
question for you new york guys and gals,

are you at all concerned about companies like Wynn (and to some extent MGM) running poker in NYC?

Its pretty clear from my experience in Massachusetts that these companies do not care one bit about poker, poker players. I can't imagine the rake being any better if not worse than Mass and its pretty clear when there isn't clear competition (like Vegas) its going to be a shitshow for the poker community.

IMO one of the worst things to happen to New England Poker has been letting corporate casinos have a monopoly.

I wishing you the best and having lived in NYC for ten years will be crossing my fingers that this isn't the case. wishing you luck.
Rake will definitely be high.

But think about the effective rake NYers are paying now in gas tolls and hotel rooms to play poker.
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06-11-2024 , 12:44 AM
there's an underground club 10 min away from me where they rake $30+$5 per hand from $1/$3NL and $5 button PLO game

the place is packed every night with sometimes 3 tables going on

the rake will probably be the highest in the country and no one will care
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06-11-2024 , 01:02 PM
Honestly if the rake is anywhere between $6 - $10(not counting bonus rake), I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
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