I thought I remember there having to be 7 members of the gaming facility location board eventually. I guess adding one now at least takes time away from having to add 4 more down the line to now just 3. Also, maybe the 4th person will help get the answers done quicker. Probably not but I'm trying to find some positives lol

Five, I think? Three was the minimum to kick the process off; the RFP had to be issued within 90 days of three (I kinda think it was half) being seated.

https://www.playny.com/mayor-adams-z...state-casinos/

Interesting article. There certainly seems to be some whispers of both RW and MGM not getting a license. The author, David Danzis, who has been doing this a long time but previously in AC, seems well connected, and I am wondering what he's hearing behind the scenes, and who from

He did say he expects the licenses to be awarded in 2024. How much long until that manifests into a casino we can go to, and a poker room we can play at, only time will tell

Keep those sweet sweet Homestar dollars rolling in every Jan 1 for a while

Someone should tell him where the racinos are located

"Two existing racinos — MGM Empire City in Queens and Resorts World NYC in Yonkers — are considered frontrunners for two available licenses"

The Sands isn't dead yet.

https://www.abettertimessq.com/

Yes please

This didn’t show much info but still looks exciting lol

One interesting bit of information that was in there, is that, they seem to have a lot of companies that are around where the casino will be that support the project. My pessimism that it's not going to happen is related mostly to the Schubert Organization's opposition to the project. It's basically a coalition of all of the Broadway theaters and theater companies and they hold a lot of power. Funny enough, I sometimes play in a game that is run by somebody at the organization lol

The more support they get, the better the chances this has of this happening. I said to a few friends last night, I wonder if they cannot win over the opposition with throwing money at the opposition. If they can get the Shubert Organization on board, this may be the leader in the Clubhouse for the third license.

Part of why I think that is that they would have to do very little work to get the property up and running compared to the other proposals because they're going to use a pre-existing building. All we've heard throughout the process is how speed to market is important in the decision. Add to that the fact that it's in the middle of the biggest tourist mecca in the entire world, or close to it, I think it has more earning potential than any of the proposals.

The Shubert Organization is the largest theatre owner on Broadway (almost half of the 41, plus six Off-Broadway). The Broadway League, also opposed, is the association of theatre owners and producers. If Caesars can sway either, they'd probably get both. Their estimate of $65M in added Broadway sales isn't nothing...but last season's Broadway gross was $1.58 billion.

At least a few of the Broadway unions are in favor, but though they represent more people (some who also live in the area), the League represents way more money.

Yep, their support seems to be a make or break thing. My mom has been an actress for the last 40+ years.

I think if The Shubert Org/TBL actually believed that they would make $65 million dollars, we might have a good chance, but I think they are hyper skeptical (rightly) about this pie in the sky estimates. They seem to always fall short by a bunch.

Also so far, I have heard them complain a lot about that they think it's going to make safety worse, and harm not only their ticket sales (which is kind of ridiculous), but also that it will hurt a lot of the local businesses. Both of those things I think are the complete opposite in reality.

I just wonder if there isn't a possibility for them to make a deal with each other that benefits everybody. It seems like there should be a way forward, and that CET could throw enough money at them to interest both groups

If they throw enough money at them they’ll get their support, money talks

https://commercialobserver.com/2023/...greens-casino/

- The idea of a TS casino being amenity light is interesting, maybe not just assuming no amenities means players will use the local amenities, but guaranteeing some amount of traffic via comps could bring around theater groups or other local commercial groups.

- The group in support seems to be growing and decently powerful, maybe enough pull to stand against the opposition.

- I laughed at the Broadway League's less-veiled-than-usual "Casinos belong in poor areas, not in our neighborhood!"

https://www.gamingtoday.com/news/har...pansion-plans/

Hard Rock COO feels that TS is stupid, not because his proposal is Citifield, but because "nobody" wants a casino in TS, including tourists apparently? Lol.

https://www.playny.com/reasons-why-o...egalized-2024/

Same old song, but fingers crosses this year is actually the year lol

I started to post something like this the other day. If they can build a casino that's not the traditional model, that specifically doesn't cater to its patrons' every need (dining, entertainment, spas) but instead has a handful of really special offerings and sends people outside for the rest, they could have something. Though probably nobody at Caesars has that reflex, and it would take a lot of relationship-building with local restaurants, venues, etc. that they might not be super-equipped for. "I will avoid capturing every last dollar my customers spend" isn't SOP.

The surrounding offerings, while there's of course a fair amount of dreck, include some of the best of the best. This Caesars wouldn't be able to have in-house shows or restaurants that aren't dazzlers. Which means they'll be more expensive to build and run, so it makes sense to have a finely honed few and encourage people to leave the building for the rest. Which, if they can develop and articulate that, should go a long way toward bringing local business, at least, on board.

And the less space they have to devote to restaurants, clubs, theatres, etc., the less they have to carve big spaces out of what's now an office tower and the more space they have for $$$$ Times Square hotel rooms.

Seems the coalition for better broadway is starting to get the media pushing details on the potential advantages of the casinos - https://www.casino.org/news/new-york...revenue-terms/

Also, we've seen this before, but they're starting to talk like online is a near certainty in 2024 - https://www.playny.com/jason-robins-...casino-future/

Believe it when I see it but fingers crossed on progress here along with the casino licenses in 2024 (and that they don't bungle the online poker rooms when they do pass legislation...)

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I think the big difference with the online casinos is the budget crunch is pretty bad. Who knows, but I think it's got the best chance it's ever had.

Also, come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if they excellerated the licenses for B&M casinos to be able to rake in the license fees for this upcoming budget

Any good venus for PLO6?

I live in Hoboken, been dreaming for years to jump on the path or 126 straight to times square to play. As of now whats my best closest option? I haven’t played since before the pandemic. I’m literally salivating at the feel of some dirty chips in my hand.

Parx

Do you drive? If not, you can take the Transbridge from PABT to Wind Creek. There's one bus going and one coming home. I play with a guy who takes it regularly, he get to the casino around 11:45 and leaves the poker room around 5:45.

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thank god for that clarification, thanks

thanks ive taken the tb before when it was sands, i was thinking of doing this but just read in wind creeks thread this poker room fell off. are the tables juicy? i drive but (its my girlfriends car). to the guy who said parx i wish they had some sort of way to get there via bus from pabt. wanna try that place.

Games in general everywhere have declined, it's not just at WC but there are still good games there. I play there 20 to 30 hrs/wk, and I also played a few hours in 1/2 this past weekend because of the snow (bought in for 400 and won over 700 before the 2/5 opened up), the money's still there but if you're in a bad game they're great about table changes. You can get stuck in a bad game anywhere, it's not a reason not to go there. The 1/3 at Parx is probably better if you drive, but if not WC is fine.