Yes, of course they do, but I am sure a great proposal that will also line their pockets could possibly beat out someone they favor. As you constantly are saying in this thread, they are corrupt, and money talks.

I actually would not be shocked if Citi Field takes the license that was destined for RW for several reasons. One, RW isn't gonna pack up and leave if they don't get it, and picking someone else could be a whole different revenue stream. I think the state would prefer doing business with Steve Cohen over a Chinese conglomerate, and there are optics they are considering about dealing with the Chinese. I think the project, despite the opposition, would be used a ton by residents and become very popular, which is a win for what they ultimately care most about... getting re-elected

I think MGM has one locked up. I think the state thinks they know how to do this the best, and are leaning on them for guidance and leadership, from what i have read and heard. That is at least, my gut feeling and my read on the second license.

For the third,I think the leader in the club house is the Wynn project in Hudson Yards, which I personally want the least. They have shown in Boston that how they treat poker in Vegas isn't necessarily how they will treat poker here. I think the Soloviev proposal has a shot solely because of the affording housing component that he agreed to include if he get a license. He is offering the city 500 units of affordable housing, the most in several decades, for a new dec project. I think the Bally's course idea has a shot, although I'm not sure how much of a shot. I think the Sands in LI and the Coney Island proposal are probably dead in the water, already

That or they give RW and Citi licenses along with yonkers

I don't believe MGM stands a chance, but that's just me. I wouldn't even be surprised if they sell the property within the next few years.

Only way they sell is if they don’t get the license, that’s the whole reason they bought yonkers

That solow site has been a huge hole in the ground for way too long. Plus what have you got on the west side, Sean and Madonna?

You're literally the only person I've ever seen that thought this, and it just comes from you interpretation of a process that happened 10 years ago with completely different players.

Things change, man. By all accounts, MGM is in line, and is a favorite for a license.

I got mgm rw and citi as the three licenses

It's actually gotten a lot worse in the past 10 years. I would bet you a good sized amount of money but I really don't like stealing money : O

https://www.playny.com/sen-ramos-cit...sino-proposal/

I would say that things are shaping up pretty nicely for Hard Rock and Steve Cohen. I would also guess, if they get a license, it's because Resorts World is not going to get one. I just don't see TWO Queens Casinos relatively close to each other happening

Considering I am trying to talk my wife into moving to Forest Hills, that would be pretty nice

Ramos moving from somewhat vocally opposed to neutral is definitely a good sign, although I'd say probably an expected one. I don't really think any politician cares that much about the potential detriment to their constituents, they just need to assert their role and power in the situation.

Adams proposed legislation this week to explicitly zone for casinos but Citi Field and Bally's are on city parkland so that's going to require further legislation if Cohen's proposal is to win.

I'm really curious how much it matters where the casinos are located in terms of wanting to spread them out. The logic of covering more ground is obvious but I wonder how much that matters to them. Plus Citi field and Resorts world aren't thattttt close, and Resorts world has the benefit of being close to the airport, while citifield is closer to the city....and Flushing lol.

I'm definitely still rooting for Citifield in general and if it was either or, over Resorts world

Agreed on everything, so, thanks for another perspective

Just think of that Guitar Hotel now, it would look so cool out there

Bad locations from a catchment area perspective if they do both. West side of manhattan has best shot of taking all of the northern NJ traffic away from ac / Philly.

Man so we are getting 2 casinos most probably? I really hope there's one in Manhattan I mean top 3 city in the world with poker.... it "could" be amazing place to play

It’s gonna be three casinos. Now when and which ones will have poker remains to be seen

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news...international/

Article is short & sweet but promising to see.

A little more fleshy here, with a link to a Dropbox of renderings*:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...302001400.html


*Cue moaning about no rendering of a poker room.

Great find, and, don't worry, I'm sure Playbig will be along any second now haha

I very much think that the Wynn will win the 3rd licensee, in Hudson Yards.

I was actually walking through there yesterday, I walked from 23rd and 11th to 34th and 11th, and it is getting seriously nice above 28th Street on 11th, all the way up to 34th, and East to 10th. 10th is kind of blah, but that mall area with the Vessel is super nice. Reminds me of the Aria, kind of.

It does feel like it needs to be filled in a bit more, and then we are talking a very vibrant area. If Wynn does win, it will fit in very nicely over there.

I think the Wynn's main competition is the Caesar's TSq idea, but it seems to be facing a lot of opposition, which I think it will make it very hard to get chosen. Because of that alone, I think the Wynn is the stronger of the two applications, but, I want it the least because of how they have done business in Boston.

I do think Soloviev and Mohegan Sun also have a shot because they offered to build a ton of affordable housing, something we are starved for, but I definitely think the state would prefer doing business with Wynn and Stephen Ross

What's the most optimistic guess about an opening date?
Maybe 2028?
Over/Under?

I'm very pessimistic.
I say maybe 2030....

I would be very surprised if the ones chosen with existing venues do not open by the end of 2025

New ones, I would guess maybe 2028

Way under 2030. The allure of the tax revenues is way too great in this environment.

I guess, for many of us, this could be a big opportunity to become a full timer. I'll definitely keep monitoring this. I live 65 miles northwest of midtown. Very easy for me to get in there for games.

https://gothamist.com/news/queens-co...member=Unknown

Opinions on how big this is? Would seem to be the first piece of truly significant news so far

The casino mention doesn't seem to have any basis. This was all about the soccer stadium and the residential buildings and hotel that'd be part of that project. Movement on that could ease the way for approval of the casino development, but it's not connected at all.

The soccer stadium is interesting. Most reports indicated Cohen was opposing the stadium. The stadium would/will be using the Citifield parking during games. Cohen's proposal involves re-developing some of that parking space into his casino/entertainment destination (which he needs new legislation to do, and initially local politicians seemed vehemently opposed although that stance has softened now.) The assumption was he was trying to oppose the soccer stadium as a sort of bargaining chip - I'll support you and find parking for your fans if you let me build my casino.

If the soccer stadium gets approval without his support, and they need that parking space, and Cohen needs to change the law to be able to develop that parking space, and they're working on passing legislation that explicitly allows casinos in certain commercial and manufacturing districts - my guess is the progress of the soccer stadium is very bad for Cohen's proposal.

The gaming board also met yesterday, appointed a 4th member to the Gaming Facility Location Board which seems sort of inconsequential at this point. More interesting is they mentioned receiving 450 questions in the second round (613 questions in the first round,) and for answering these questions they have "...no set deadlines for finalization and staff anticipates working through the holiday season towards completion." That sounds very bad for us lol. My guess is our best hope is a turn around time proportional to the first, so questions answered by end of March 2024.

From there it would be 30 days to applications being due. Then Community Advisory Committees have a TBD time frame to suggestion revisions to applications and then applicants need to make such revisions. Again best hope at this point 6 months for suggestions, 30 days for revisions so we're looking at "final" applications submitted by end of October 2024.

Finally, optimistically CAC's vote within 30 days and it goes to zoning approval which shouldddd be streamlined by the new legislation?

Maybe we get licenses granted by end of Q1 2025? If RW and/or Empire get the nod, they could have cards in the air by Summer 2025? Anywhere that needs significant construction probably not until Summer 2026 if we're lucky?

At least I'm kind of having fun following this lol