Haha, booked!

My new job is such that I'm now going to be coming to NYC 2-4x a year for a full week each time at a minimum, I am keen for there to be poker asap.

First off, if you see gum on the street, leave it there. It’s not free candy.

I lived in NYC for nearly a decade, v happy to be gone, also glad to get to visit for free a bunch.

Hoping to come visit you for Memorial Day next year, but I'll see you at Seth's before, I'm sure

for those tracking the rumor mill, i was speaking to a dealer who is very familiar with the yonkers property and he believes that it would require major teardown / new construction once authorized. i am not at all familiar with the property so have no idea if this is accurate, but would suck for those of us in the vicinity obv

Fruit spray?!? Sure!!

False. They got at least two floors which are abandoned and can be converted to poker quick if they desired

Edit: and I also feel them and resorts world are more Or less ready to go just waiting for approvals and what have you, once all the processes go through they gonna get table games situated relatively quickly. Imo of course

This is true but casino games are going to take priority over poker.

Yea, which will probably go down on the first floor. There’s space for both even if the first floor stays the same with the slots.

They would likely just keep their slots where they are and use the other available floors for table games. Even with tables allowed, slots are still gonna be their real bread and butter.

I've heard the same, they'll get table games up quickly, a bigger problem tho might be the number of dealers they have available.

they make 50 million a month profit off those slots they aren't even going anywhere.

I’d guess 90% of the slots that empire has are really outdated. So slots might also be upgraded and prioritized over tables once they get an actual casino license.

Then tables.

Then high rake poker (10max) by 2030 if we’re lucky.

I do think they will remodel or even fully tear it down. I’ll make the bold prediction that we get a whole new structure out of this.

They might need to update the slots, and rearrange them.

Article in the NYT yesterday suggesting Rikers would be the perfect 3rd venue, as the prison is closing. I think this'd be amazing, right next to LaGuardia. Anyone coming in or out of NYC could tack a few hours on prior to their departure and visit the poker room.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/29/o...nd-casino.html

This is my least favorite suggestion other than Nassau Coliseum.

First of all, the rock's deadline to close is 2027 so this is purely an idea for the future, nobody in government or with money has put any weight behind the idea, and with the three licenses all presumably being granted in 2023-2024 the idea is not even sort of on the table for the 3rd license (nor does the article even actually suggest it is.) Plus, it's a pretty safe bet they don't even get it shut down by 2027, they've been trying to close the place for decades now.

Second, part of the reason some people want Riker's closed is because it is very difficult for people to visit incarcerated friends and family, because it's an absolute pain in the ass to get to. Ferries from the Bronx and Manhattan and busses going through Astoria sound like a nightmare to me.

Third, and this one is speculation, but when you consider what the article says about the infrastructure of the island and the author's grand plans to sell bonds and leverage the casino financially for the city, it reeeeeks of the kind of project that will hemorrhage money through corruption.

I didn't think of the time frame. Aside from that though, obviously the logistics would need to be sorted out. I don't think that's a huge deal, a new bridge isn't that big a deal. Plus, if casinos can figure out how to run shuttle buses properly, they can figure out how to run shuttle ferries.

Maybe there's a way of getting a 4th casino over the line in 5 years?

It's not impossible, but the total number of full-casino licenses in the state is set by the constitutional amendment. It would take another amendment (two separate legislative sessions and then a general election) to change it. I doubt you'd get anyone interested in that until they've seen how the current three (the last three of the seven) work out.

The island is, as is pointed out in the piece, mostly landfill. It's likely a toxic mess. Ingress/egress is a nightmare. There's no direct rail access to LaGuardia so creating rail access to Rikers is unlikely if not completely off the menu. Traffic is a nightmare even without a casino there. It is more suited for industrial/warehouse/shipping than a luxury destination.

Anyone who knows the area knows that the LaGuardia project has taken years and is nowhere near done and the 678 to JFK has been undergoing repairs for years. The neighborhood roads can't handle any significant traffic and the residents are not going to be warm to the idea of a casino in their backyard.

Also, the idea that Rikers will close in 2027 is fantasy. It is scheduled to close then but much has been written (and those in charge acknowledge) that the city is likely to miss the target date. If you've followed NYC politics, you know that the plan to close Rikers is dependent on the construction of jails in the boroughs. the Manhattan jail project is running into all kinds of political opposition and though it's moving along, it will face all kinds of hurdles in the upcoming years, likely delaying the 2027 closure plan.

More realistically, whatever is built at Rikers, if anything ever is, will probably be complete in 2030 at the earliest and likely much later.

Whether a casino is built in NYC is one question, but whether it's built at Rikers is another. And the latter question is a resounding: Not a chance.

Gov Island is a much better idea.

of all the harebrained parts of this line of thinking, "a new bridge isn't that big a deal" might be my favorite. lol

I wish one of the new casinos would let me bet that rikers still won't be closed in 2027.

LOL just read that and almost spit out my coffee

Settle in, this is going to take a bit.

The RFA is out. Applications are due 60 days, plus two unspecified intervals for the board to answer questions, from yesterday. Then each application goes to the Community Advisory Committee stage and irons out any zoning issues. After that, there's an unspecified amount of time (well, presumably they have an amount of time in mind, but they're not putting a date to it) for applicants who haven't yet failed to submit supplemental materials. Only then will the board consider any applications still standing.

https://gothamist.com/news/ny-offici...ee-set-at-500m

https://nycasinos.ny.gov/system/file...03.23.rfa_.pdf

Damn that outline makes this seem like it’s gonna take a year at least before anything gets approved. And also that yonkers or resort world ain’t necessarily a shoe in