They shelved it early on in the process but said there is some momentum to get it done next year. We shall see...

Budget is never in on time. Not to worry

They were doing well for a few years...

If online poker doesn't have to be a budget item, they have another three months that they might get to it. (OK, one month...everything that's going to get done between the budget and the end of the session will be done in June.)

https://yidinfo.net/lawmaker-says-ny...asino-license/

"Queens State Sen. Joe Addabbo, who chairs his chamber’s Racing, Gaming, and Wagering Committee, revealed that negotiators have agreed to bake three casino licenses into the budget."

Anything can change at any minute, but that's it's been agreed to is great news.

Absolutely. It makes sense, the state is in need of revenue (as always but more so now) & this is an easy path.. just hope the transition period for Empire & RW aren't too slow. Thanks for the updates, sometimes they're not too easy to find.

I’ll take the real poker as a start. Online can be added next year. Better then nothing let’s get it!! Jam all in first hand in an nyc card room who’s with me?

I would be down if we could organize a meetup on the first day.. would be fun to do a multi-table flip if they allowed it

I highly doubt they’ll allow all that. I do not see an nyc casino being a player friendly pro vlog type of atmosphere. But it’s nyc, at the end of the day would we really want that out here?

You're probably right. Not talking about vlogging or anything, just if a bunch of folks from here happen to end up there on opening day but expecting poker players to adhere to a schedule is delusional on my part anyhow.

It's all pretty nebulous...what kind of rooms open, IF they open rooms, what players they get...

Busy weekend nights at Borgata it can sometimes feel like NYC has emptied out into AC. Combine the players degen enough to bus or drive for it with the ones who stocked the underground rooms but just quit? If a casino in NYC wants to make a strong run at the poker market *and* hires a good manager...? It could be the stuff of dreams.

But, it'd take a good manager with enough clout. Why doesn't another casino in AC make a run at stealing poker from Borgata? You have to want it. You have to mean it. You have to spend money on it. You need room management who can say "This is going to be the greatest thing since the invention of the card, but you have to trust me and give me everything I ask for." Nobody in AC wants to put in that kind of effort. A brand new room in a brand new (ish) casino in NYC doing that? At the very least, we'll find out if Borgata means it or not.

You realize the rooms in AC need to get the players from NYC to travel all the way down to AC and a room in NYC wouldn't right?

The borgata room is so dead compared to what it was a few years ago as it is.A ton of nyc players go to parx.

At this point the writing is on the wall that nyc will get casinos in a year or two- some ac casino isn't going to go nuts trying to get poker players to move over from Borgata most of whom won't be going to ac much if at all anymore.

The nyc room could be poorly run and it would not make a difference. A lot more people will play there rather than drive to ac or PA

Yea I don’t see it happening, especially not on an opening day.

Agreed. I can't see Borgata caring enough to fight for market share, honestly. Seems like to me they are just coasting at this point, and the room is just running on the fumes of better days before it. Everything has been downhill poker wise at most MGM properties since Bobby Baldwin left. COVID left a dent, too.

Soon after the NYC casinos go in, I think we're probably looking at NJ retaliating and the power that be willing to pivot to North Jersey casinos. I can see one of these new Metro area casinos taking the throne from Borgata, and quite easily. Someone will make the move

Been reading all the articles this week. While they don't give that much new info, one thing that seems to be a recurring thing is that the articles make it seem like casino inclusion in the budget is a done deal and what the hold up is over, is the Bills Stadium, bail reform, and some of these other social issues.

So, barring a drastic change that I can't really see happening, I think we've got this one in the bag. It will be really interesting to see how the whole licensing process plays out, how quick to market the existing properties will be, and what gets the 3rd license.

I haven't been back to Borgata since Parx opened. Because of that, I lost my black card taking day trips from NYC to Parx. Once I lost that black card, there's no way I'd pay for a room to play poker (let alone the drive to AC).

When NYC gets poker, I'll never go back to Parx.

What concerns me is that with them being past deadline and those issues seeming to be pretty contentious, if the casino issue is raised after they come to a resolution on bail and the stadium they just table it. That's my pessimistic thought.

My optimism is around speed to market if it does go, take with a grain of salt because I'm a random on the internet and my sources could totally just be wrong, but I've heard there are already executable plans approved for a large room in one of the potential locations

Borgata gonna be toast if they do both nyc and jersey casinos near nyc.

They're not going to get approval to put them in any decent areas in NYC, and they're going to sell it to a terrible area as a way to "revitalize" the area. The Resorts Casino has made Rockaway sketchier than it already was, and a poker room of any magnitude is going to do the same wherever you place it. Legalizing gambling is a decent idea, but to do so for $ is absolutely stupid. You're taking the money that is already in these communities, siphoning off a big chunk to the casinos, and putting a minor % back in the form of tax revenue redistributed in the budget. The other chunk never comes back, because casinos are neither building in nor improving these communities beyond the building they operate in. Legalized sports betting is a good way to get 40% of the $ that already exists and redistribute it poorly. Legalized poker rooms don't belong in NYC, even though they would be great options. We're also extremely unlikely to get anything resembling a fair shake from their business practices. The legal books that popped up are skeleton versions of actual books as far as options, and their lines are consistently more expensive than offshore books since the outset. Look at Vegas and AC. The surrounding areas in these places are wasteland ghosttowns with increased crime. This legalization push is a bad idea from shortsighted government officials. It's the same as allowing franchises to pop up. They might do well, but you're eroding the quality of the city over time. If my neighborhood is filled with Popeye's and McDonald's and Walmart's and casinos, what is the difference between my city and a random town in the midwest. We're selling our own city to solve imaginary fiscal crises and it's a major oof to watch.

Yea I don’t agree with any of that you just typed. Queens and yonkers gonna be the 2 poker rooms off rip. And the third spot could potentially be on top of saks. Even if all three don’t have poker rooms at least one or two should so that’s good.

They've settled on the package and voting may start tonight.

Casinos are in there, this says.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/n...il-reform.html

Came here to post the same! Great news. We're almost to the finish line

Times blocking my access to the article. All I seen was 3 casinos included

Yeah a casino on the top floor of Saks is going to make 5th ave look like times square in the 70s. Billionaires Row condo owners better sell now!

Or one in Times Square is going to make Times Square look like Times Square in the 2020’s.

Lawmakers agreed to speed up licenses for three new casinos that are likely to open in the New York City area, overcoming resistance from some downstate legislators wary of erecting gambling establishments in their districts.

That's the whole mention.

The Senate's proposed timetable some weeks ago had licenses awarded by December. No idea what's actually making it in there.


The people with the Saks idea seem to be thinking of a more classy, upscale, geared-to-high-rollers sort of place, to use all that space that WeWork can't. The building's a landmark, so there's not a lot that can be done on the outside.