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01-17-2016 , 10:50 PM
Does anyone know what hours Rockingham poker is open on Monday Martin Luther King Day, January 18th?
Thanks.
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01-18-2016 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jjb511
Does anyone know what hours Rockingham poker is open on Monday Martin Luther King Day, January 18th?
Thanks.
12 noon. I finally got someone to answer the phone.
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01-21-2016 , 01:22 PM
Foxwoods or Mohegan, specifically for 1-2 or 2-5 NLH? It seems Foxwoods may have more tables but other than that I can't tell just by looking online.
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01-21-2016 , 01:39 PM
What metrics are you looking to rate them on? Asking "which is better", which you seem to be, is very subjective.
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01-21-2016 , 01:58 PM
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What metrics are you looking to rate them on? Asking "which is better", which you seem to be, is very subjective.
Fair. I mostly care about which one is usually more active (has more tables going) and which one people think has lighter competition. That may be subjective too but I am open to subjective answers.
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01-22-2016 , 06:12 AM
Foxwoods, outside of special promotions, almost always has many more tables of 1-2/2-5, although it looks like Mohegan may be closing the gap recently.
Quality of competition varies wildly by the table you end up at. Personally I have not noticed much overall difference between the two. I suspect that given a large sample size, the level of play will end up being equal.
Most would agree that Foxwoods comps much better, especially when it comes to free rooms. Most would agree that Mohegan is a much nicer room aesthetically, and also has better food options.
Their are some great, some good, some average, some bad, and some terrible floors and dealers at each venue. Not sure if either has an edge in that matter.
Both rooms now have the same buy-in and rake structure for 1-2/2-5. (FW is no-flop no-drop, MS might not be)

I prefer Foxwoods, mostly for the better comps and the ability to play PLO often.

Both rooms have their fanboys who will come in and insist that their room is far superior. It's all subjective obviously. As far as poker plays goes, especially in the mainstream NLH and LH games, not much difference. If you want more variety, Foxwoods has more games at more times of day. I don't play tournaments so no opinion.
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01-22-2016 , 11:44 AM
Thanks for the answer.
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01-23-2016 , 03:10 AM
Just finished a long plo session at the Rock. Last 2 hours was mostly plo bingo, as if you had a hand to play you were going to be put all in preflop, so many were raising pre. Couldn't hit a flop, put it was fun and great action.

Anyways got to my car about 12:45, just as 5 Salem patrol cars came speeding up the driveway light flashing. Anyone know what happened?
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01-24-2016 , 08:25 AM
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......Anyways got to my car about 12:45, just as 5 Salem patrol cars came speeding up the driveway light flashing. Anyone know what happened?
They probably heard you were stealing pots.....
Are you 100% NH now?
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01-24-2016 , 10:39 PM
No, Had a friend up there that was dealing for the first time so I went up there to wish him luck.

Action was good enough to overcome rake. Last hand of my night sitting in front of $300, wild player potting pre every hand and had just rebought for 300 and 2 others that were way over 1,000 repoting. I have AKJ 10 double suited. Pot pot pot pot 3 way all in. Flop Q 8 3 two diamonds, so i have nut flush and gutter for nut straight. Turn blank River A. My ace bested deep stack, guy that rebought beats me with 10 888 and flopped a set.

Twin Rivers has become the easiest to play at, 30 miles door to door. Foxwoods offered me no rooms or points so no point in going there. Booked every Wednesday and Thursday in Feb. Just got March so i'll try to book those.

Rock is alternative since the Game of the Future at Foxwoods is 2-5 plo, and I'm not nearly rolled for that, and that game can be wild too. But as I've said 1-2 plo at the Rock can become a 1-2-8-28 game with the right players.

There was a funny mother daughter team that one was getting felted every other hand. When the daughter got felted, she would wait to rebuy and rail her mother and tell her what to do in arabic, such a violation of one player per hand, and when confronted she would say they were talking about something else. On one hand she was screaming at her mother to table a winner, but for the most part her helping her mother was not much of an issue based on her own play.

Sometimes the rules are not quite followed based on I think people who are regulars or favored to the room. But that can happen in most rooms. In general the floor is ok, and the dealers in PLO are very very proficient.

MJ, have you played up there?
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01-26-2016 , 01:16 PM
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....MJ, have you played up there?
Nope, not yet, although I'll probably try it out sooner or later. (Rockingham isn't as much closer to me than FW as it is for you.)
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01-27-2016 , 10:30 PM
Boston drops lawsuit against Wynn

- No more penalty if traffic exceeds certain levels; instead Wynn will have to submit specific steps to remedy

- Annual compensation to Boston increased from 1.6m to 2m (3 year period)

- Possibly a park created at Wynn's expense next to casino
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01-28-2016 , 12:56 PM
Nevermind

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01-28-2016 , 03:08 PM
That law suit was pure BS. Marty was just butt hurt over not getting host city status.

Couple more years and we'll finally have a casino in the Boston area.
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01-29-2016 , 10:19 AM
Somebody remind me how a slots parlor (i.e., Plainridge) became part of the overall casino equation. That place is in a downward spiral, with their latest excuse being too much negative media coverage - lol (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/01/2...clines-casino/)
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01-29-2016 , 12:14 PM
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Somebody remind me how a slots parlor (i.e., Plainridge) became part of the overall casino equation. That place is in a downward spiral, with their latest excuse being too much negative media coverage - lol (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/01/2...clines-casino/)
The Commonwealth bubbleheads who decided that only three full casinos, and one "slots only" casino was the best formula for Massachusetts, are the ones you talk about. Even the slots parlour was highly contested, with plainville, Leominster, and a few other communities contesting for that license. Leominster is my birth/hometown, and they passed a referendum by nearly 60/40.

An optimal business strategy of a totally open market was never visited by the state. The limits were decided before one license was ever granted.

To be fair to Penn National: one would expect casino revenues down in the winter, in New England. And down revenues when there is no live racing. And down revenues with a lot less vacationing people to draw from, etc. Etc. Etc. It really sounds like Penn National needs a better press release written. I'd love to see a comparison of this performance with similar casino revenues at racinos in New York and Pennsylvania.
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01-31-2016 , 12:45 PM
I just don't even understand the logic of allowing a casino, but then restricting it to slots only. What's the core difference between slots and table games that having a place for the former is OK as long as it doesn't include the latter?

Gambling is gambling, isn't it? And even if you had to choose between the two, wouldn't you rather have table games but no slots? Slot machines are the worst. Mindless soul-sucking button pushing. People who play table games often look like they're having fun, win or lose. I've never seen a slot player who looked like they were having fun.
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01-31-2016 , 02:49 PM
Slots don't need benefits
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02-01-2016 , 10:52 AM
Slots still generate the lions share of revenue for casinos. The industry is moving to skill based slots. Legislators are working in different states on new gaming regs to adjust to the new trend.

I like slots and video poker for pure entertainment. Yeah you lose money but if I have fun, I don't mind it. I plan on losing every cent I put into a machine.
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02-04-2016 , 08:58 PM
Any information on the Keene card room?
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02-05-2016 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizzeedizzee
Somebody remind me how a slots parlor (i.e., Plainridge) became part of the overall casino equation. That place is in a downward spiral, with their latest excuse being too much negative media coverage - lol (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/01/2...clines-casino/)

Plainridge is going to be a big BUST in regards to casino success for myriad reasons. I do not know the specifics to video slots-only rules and if that could ever change, but they are going to get continually killed if they can never get table games or poker in there. I live a few miles from the place and in no particular order:

-Plainridge itself has brought in very little business from locals to there restaurants. Just hasn't caught on at all.

-I've been there once since opening, and that was only to see about renting some space for a kids football banquet. Just no draw power whatsoever and here is why...

-Twin River is 20-25 minutes away and has live table games as well as opening up a poker room recently. There is literally no reason to go to Plainridge over Twin River, short of being an old local that doesn't want to drive the extra 15 miles to Lincoln, RI

-since poker started at Twin River, I lost track of how many poker people I know that said "the list was an hour+ wait, so I just went and played some blackjack/craps/slots/etc while I waited. That is like Twin Rivers' wet dream and why Plainridge will never be able to compete.

-I did see video craps while GM was giving me the nickel tour, but overall the place is just a one-room video slot parlor full of geriatrics, with no other outlets except simulcast racing.



Now iffff they could ever go for a poker or table game upgrade, they will be hella successful and would cut into both Twin River and Foxwoods for that matter, but until then they are going to get killlllled.

And if that can never change from video slots-only, they are in for a bad run. I was half expecting traffic issues at least sometimes, living so close, but it is literally like they are not even there.
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02-05-2016 , 05:31 PM
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Slots still generate the lions share of revenue for casinos. The industry is moving to skill based slots. Legislators are working in different states on new gaming regs to adjust to the new trend.
What are skill based slots?
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02-05-2016 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Plainridge is going to be a big BUST in regards to casino success for myriad reasons. I do not know the specifics to video slots-only rules and if that could ever change, but they are going to get continually killed if they can never get table games or poker in there. I live a few miles from the place and in no particular order:

-Plainridge itself has brought in very little business from locals to there restaurants. Just hasn't caught on at all.

-I've been there once since opening, and that was only to see about renting some space for a kids football banquet. Just no draw power whatsoever and here is why...

-Twin River is 20-25 minutes away and has live table games as well as opening up a poker room recently. There is literally no reason to go to Plainridge over Twin River, short of being an old local that doesn't want to drive the extra 15 miles to Lincoln, RI

-since poker started at Twin River, I lost track of how many poker people I know that said "the list was an hour+ wait, so I just went and played some blackjack/craps/slots/etc while I waited. That is like Twin Rivers' wet dream and why Plainridge will never be able to compete.

-I did see video craps while GM was giving me the nickel tour, but overall the place is just a one-room video slot parlor full of geriatrics, with no other outlets except simulcast racing.



Now iffff they could ever go for a poker or table game upgrade, they will be hella successful and would cut into both Twin River and Foxwoods for that matter, but until then they are going to get killlllled.

And if that can never change from video slots-only, they are in for a bad run. I was half expecting traffic issues at least sometimes, living so close, but it is literally like they are not even there.
Nothing you say surprises me, and it all makes sense. Yet still I thought Plainville might have a shot due to being no smoking and Twin River, from what I've only heard since I've never set foot in the place, being so smoky and/or poorly ventilated that it makes Turning Stone smell like a bar of Irish Spring. Plus, what about the spillover from the outlet malls?

I'm not rooting for Plainville - not in the least. But I can't understand how it can be such a trainwreck and so soon.

And to the previous poster, is the logic behind a casino doing worse in winter that many of the older clientele goes south for the winter? Otherwise, I'd figure that it offers an escape from the cold, no?
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02-07-2016 , 09:35 PM
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What are skill based slots?

https://youtu.be/l1WJgLm0zLk
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02-17-2016 , 12:20 PM
Does jokers/manchvegas have a website?
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