They had paid detail when I was working there 5 1/2 years ago

Had a loud player who was drinking at my table the other night open shoving $300 with 73off and just having a good time.. The cop came over and started harassing him asking if he was driving and who he came with and who was driving him home. The guy wasn't being out of line he was just having a good time and told the cop he wasn't driving and pointed out his ride. The cop stood by and watched him for the rest of the night and it killed the vibe(and the action). The detail should be kept by the doors and called over if needed. The 73off shove was called by 86off btw lol

I thought I remember something ITT about there being paid detail on weekends, but perhaps not during the week?

What's interesting is that when I was there (a Sunday afternoon), I saw a lot of money being tossed around and plenty of people drinking, yet the room had a decidedly relaxed atmosphere. It's hard to put my finger on, but there was less "sword wagging" and other vibe killing things you see all too often at other rooms. Basically, people were having fun, glass was not being tapped, and no one seemed to be into souring the mood in any way.

Maybe that's just temporary or due to the early afternoon hours. But long story short - if this is representative of the room on a weekend, then I could see how they'd be able to make due without a detail on most weekdays.

This is a concern. Players like this can ruin the games. I hope the floor can make quick ends to players like that. Drunk is what i am getting at... i always welcome bad play.

With the increased action at this room which will only continue to increase there is no reason whatsoever to not have a uniformed detail officer on site. I'd prefer him being at the entrance/exit of parking lot in the evenings as well. The type of cash being brought to an uncapped game shouldn't have to walk out in a dark parking lot at midnight without security. This is an incident waiting to happen.


I'd imagine somewhat competent players will make quick ends to these guys before the floor has the opportunity.

That was a joke. On the serious side, please let me know when these guys who will "ruin the game" are at your table. I'll gladly table change with you.

Salem NH cops are some of the worst FYI. They like to fight too. If you do decide to drink while playing be careful of those ****ers when leaving.

Wow. Just guard the door/parking lot ffs. Ridiculous.

Please be kidding.

Maybe i was not clear. Its more of a concern of the room getting to much attention and the rules/laws change back. It would be a shame to lose the ability to play no limit poker in the area. Also capping the 2/4 is long overdue. Another place to draw attention to the room. I hope this clears up my post

2/4 should be 1k cap and they should run 4/4 uncapped

Limit players drink less than NL players? Glad the lawmakers didn't become aware of this prior to passing the bill.

Seems logical, and I'm guessing it could happen.

Out of curiosity - is there something specific in the rules that would prohibit making at least some $1/$2 tables $500 max? That could be interesting as well, especially if $2/$4 remains uncapped. Then again, it could just fail ala Mohegan's inauspicious $1/$3 experiment, although there I believe the delta between the max $1/$3 buy-in and the $2/$5 buy-in was only $300, which wouldn't be the case here.

I suppose if they want to borrow something from Mohegan the could look to $1/$1 NL instead, with a cap of the $150 bullet.

Re: Salem NH cops....I used to head up to Denny's a lot because it was the only 24-hr place nearby not in Lawrence (the other Denny's), and quite simply, I expected to get pulled over for no reason. One cop told me he stopped me because I had crossed the yellow line, even though I was in the RIGHT LANE. He couldn't even look me in the eye as he said it, and I was just a kid. It was clear that he was enforcing a policy that he hated as well.

Re: getting drunk at Rockingham....I went there a few a years ago, and the poker was temporarily moved upstairs because of a larger event being held on the main level. I got up from the poker table and walked over to the bar to get a drink. The bar was BEAUTIFUL. It was huge. And all the stools were empty. Just one pretty girl tending this enormous, empty bar.

YTF: You look like the Loneliest Bartender in the World.

BT: (not sure if I'm flirting; not interested if I am) What are you having?

YTF: Miller Lite, please.

BT: (opens bottle, sets it on bar) Nine dollars, please.

YTF: (jaw drops) No *wonder* you're the Loneliest Bartender in the World!

BT: Tell me about it.

(I forget exactly how much that beer cost, it may not have been quite $9. But it was some amount so ridiculous that I never bought another beer at Rockingham....and I think "open-shoving with 7-high" doesn't show nearly as much disregard for money as "getting drunk at Rockingham".)

The one thing to remember is this is a poker room meant to raise money for charities. Dont get me wrong that this is great for players in the area to go there instead of driving 2 hours to foxwoods. Marketing like it is a casino poker room is probably not in the best interests of the overall objective of what it truly is. Keeping it low key that does not draw attention is in the best interests of everone.

Just my 2 cents

Bad Beat, Bad Beat (for those of you who remember Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman)

The bad beat at the Rock was hit Wednesday night for over 70k and hit again at the table next to me Thursday night for 16k. The hand that occurred on Wednesday was so strange that I wonder if there is another place in live poker to post it to get wider circulation.

Anyways here is how the bad beat bad beat occurred. (keep in mind the bad beat is aces full losing to a higher hand. It is cut 50% to the losing hand, 30% for the winning hand, 20% for the table share)

Player one has aces, player 2 has kings. Both players flop a set. Turn is a king! CA-Ching aces full of kings losing to quad kings 36k loser share. Hand winning share about 21k. Not bad right. River is an ace giving the loser the winner and only the winner shares of 21k and quad king guy a 16k bonus. HOW SICK IS THAT?

Not that it matters for your story, but to be technical it's aces full of tens or better.

The overall objective of new ownership and the realty group is to generate revenue and increase the bottom line. This can/will be accomplished based on future gambling/casino bills passed by the state and could include a sale to a larger group. It is the laws of the state that Rockingham is REQUIRED to navigate that REQUIRE the poker room to cut in the charities to open their room. Let's not be oblivious to the obvious here. Rockingham isn't in the charity business by choice, they are forced to include charities to operate a poker room by law.

New ownership? Did Callahan's group sell?

I asked about this ITT a while ago, no one replied. Last time the full-casino bill got shot down, he said they'd sell, as it didn't make sense to own all that land in order to run a tiny poker room.

Google search only mentions selling off a chunk of stable area to the restaurant guy on Main Street.

Pretty sure Callahan still owns it. Penn Gaming just has an option to buy "whenever". Penn Gaming or Millenium? One of the two.

Several dealers today claimed that 2/4 @ rock will soon be capped. They say hampton is complaining to the state...

I want to disagree with this, as well as what the dealers were saying about Hampton complaining about the uncapped 2-4.

When a law is passed there is usually many ways to interpret such laws. Usually because the law makers don't understand the little nuances of what they are voting on and because there are so many lawyers that will interpret such laws to what there clients want to hear. Rock interprets 2-4 to be uncapped, Hampton doesn't agree and complains. That is a good thing. It's called competition. It will send it back to the law makers to figure out what they meant in the law and will tell Rockingham to cap 2-4 or allow Hampton to run uncapped, evening the playing field.

I can't imagine at this point that the result of Hampton's complaint is to roll back the law to only allow 2-4 limit. Everyone, the house, dealers, charities and the state are making more money than they were before, and the players are getting to play the games they wanted to play all along, no limit hold 'em and plo. Lists for limit games are still taken and those games run, so those players can still play limit if they want.

I still see Mr. Callahan up there working, so I'm assuming he's still in charge. I remember shortly after he took over, he showed us, dealers floor etc. the plans Millennium had for the place. It was a very nice building, to be built right where the grandstand and clubhouse (where the poker is now) is, The plan if I recall correctly was to build a temporary casino out by what would be between the starting gate for a 6 furlong race and where they would start a 5/12 furlong race on turf. Get the slots and table games going as quickly as possible, then raze the current building and put up a whole new structure.

Keeping quiet about the new stakes and how deep the games play should not be a concern of Rockingham. The state specifically allowed no limit to be spread. That is the business they run and they should promote it the best they can to increase the number of players that want to play there.

They are getting the jump on Massachusetts poker rooms which should be important to them because when Mass opens they may have to compete again poker rooms that offer free drinks, rewards points for players and possibly lower rake (since they won't have to cut in charities), and that won't be easy.

I don't understand why Hampton would complain. They could just make their own 2/4 game uncapped

Bold #1 - Where in the bill is there any mention of a cap? Rock interprets it to read no cap because well, there is no mention of anything related to a cap. What exactly doesn't Hampton agree with? It is clear as day and all they are doing is potentially screwing things up for everyone. That room should be boycotted until competent minds are running the room.

Bold #2 - This makes zero sense. They already allow Hampton to run uncapped, the playing field is already even. Hampton is questioning language in the bill that doesn't even freaking exist! That room should be boycotted until competent minds are running the room.

Quick point. The state of nh does not write rules for any game. The rooms write procedures and the commission can approve or deny them. So for example instead of no limit being approved with a cap or not every room wrote what they wanted to run and were approved by the racing and gaming commission.

So Hampton asked for less than Rockingham and now they're crying no fair?

That's what it sounds like.