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View Poll Results: Which casino operator would you prefer to get E. Mass. license?
Wynn/Everett?
136 71.96%
Mohegan/Revere?
53 28.04%

07-17-2015 , 01:56 PM
Haha. I was actually just looking into removing the current poll the other day because I'm sick of looking at it but it's a big pain the ass.
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07-17-2015 , 09:32 PM
some other reports from other card rooms would be cool
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07-18-2015 , 10:12 PM
Rockingham is like poker boom-style play. One guy snap called my 4-bet shove all-in preflop with A-2 off-suit tonight. The games there have some insane action.
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07-18-2015 , 10:33 PM
signs behind the cashier say new chips at rockingham by 7/27 but table chatter says they're expected Thursday. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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07-18-2015 , 10:44 PM
Well Thursday is the 23rd which is by 7/27 so there's no contradiction there.
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07-19-2015 , 10:04 AM
Spent a few hours at the River Card room in Milford yesterday. Well run room. New chips (paulsons t&c). All of the staff seems competent and freindly. They were allowing $200 buy ins. Same cap of 300. The 2/4 wasn't running yet but I was told it goes off daily. They cap that at 600. 100's and 50's on the table are in play. They do an hourly high hand for $50. Bbj is around 15k with any quads beaten for the qualifier.

Oh yeah, and I agree with the statement above in regards to "boom" style play. It was awesome and I will be back frequently.

Anybody played in keene or Belmont since the 1st?

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07-19-2015 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by schizm
Spent a few hours at the River Card room in Milford yesterday... They were allowing $200 buy ins. Same cap of 300. The 2/4 wasn't running yet but I was told it goes off daily. T

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Why would they allow that? This is pretty stupid and it can get them in trouble. They should just follow the rules.
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07-19-2015 , 08:06 PM
Does anyone have the breakdown of the rake at each of the poker rooms. Looks like Rockingham Park maxes at $6 per hand at $60.

Played the $1/$2 NL today for the first time. It was great. Very different players there in comparison to Foxwoods.
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07-20-2015 , 02:12 PM
Went to Hampton Falls on Sat. Here's my review as told by Bill Hader's Stefan character from SNL.

If you're looking to play no limit poker in New Hampshire, the hottest club around is Hampton Falls poker. This place has got everything: wood paneling, overweight floormen in ill fitting suits, spunky waitresses named Amber, Ashley and Alyssa, old greek men with gravelly voices who have to go pick up their mother from bingo in Lynn, elderly lesbians calling down with ace high and one old man half asleep in the 10 seat.

All kidding aside, went up around 6, they had 2 2-4 games, 4 1-2 and a 2-4 OE game. It's got an Elk's club vibe. The chairs were pretty decent, much more comfortable than Rockingham. The chips were shinny plastic dice type chips, not bad, not good. Dealers were all over the place. First 2 were good, next one was terrible, 3rd was great and last guy was the worst. Only played the 1-2 till about 10ish, at that point the 2-4 was down to 1 table and it looked like 1-2 would be 2 tables shortly. Rake is $5 max plus 1 for the bad beat. It's much cleaner than Rockingham and although I didn't eat the food it looked pretty good. Bottled water was 1.50, soda 2.25 and a sam adams was 3.75.

While the game I was in was technically "good" the stacks were shallow, people would double up with aces and then rack up and leave and overall it wasn't a gambling crowd. As I said above it's the kind of people who would play at an Elks club just for fun.

While Rockingham is much more rundown and uncomfortable I think i'll continue to play there. I think being able to bet on the horses/dogs gives it a huge advantage in the kind of player it attracts.
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07-20-2015 , 02:19 PM
I'm gonna answer my own question, and wholly contradict schizm's positive review at the same time by posting my experience at the River Card Room in Milford last Friday night.

First of all, I used to play there very frequently (used to live a half mile away), when it was all tournaments and table games. A few years ago I started going to Foxwoods and haven't been back since. But I know the player pool pretty well, however, anyone who sat there for ten minutes would know the player pool pretty well too....it reeks like fish.

Someone said "poker boom" style of play, and that very very apt. I know for a fact that 90% of these players have only played tournaments and 2/4 limit for the last 6-8 years since the room has been opened. So I think what you're seeing now is "no limit boom" style of play. Folks aren't making the proper adjustments. Calling stations abound.

As for the actual room and how it's run, I could not possibly have more bad things to say.

All the dealers are young people mostly <25 years old. The floormen too. These guys are all from the town, and went to high school together. Now 8 years later, they still live in their hometown and work at a place that is more like a "hangout" for them. Effort and enthusiasm are lacking.

Also lacking is skill and expertise. I saw a dealer put the turn card out before the last player had acted. The flop was Q-T-5 and the early turn was a 9. When the mistake was realized, the guy who raised the flop covered the 9 with his hand and said "just pretend you didn't see it, this is NOT a 9 *chuckle*" Then the guy who didn't act reconsidered his action and called. Then the raiser lifted his hand and said "oh look a 9". The whole time the dealer just sat there like an idiot and then said "ok, that's good, next action.....". The guy who covered the 9 with his, had J8. Tell me that's not slimy.

even slimier....A player busted, and the dealer asked him if needs some money. The guy said "yes". The dealer stopped dealing, reached into his pocket and handed the player $200 so he could buy back in. He also, softly, said to the player "you know what 10% of $200 is right?", which I assumed referred to some kind of vig between the two men. The floorman was right there, watched the whole thing and then waited until it was over before saying "Yeah guys, we might wanna do that differently next time"

Green chips are worth $20, which makes ZERO sense.

Concessions are wildly expensive, though there are some pizza/fast food joints nearby

Dealers are allowed to play immediately after their shift, all they have to do is change their shirt.

It's not a place you go to hang out, have a few, and see your friends. The people who use the place like that, work there. Everyone who plays there is a hopeless degenerate gambler, so the games are extremely soft.

Compared to rockingham, the place is a palace. But by any normal standard, it's a pit.
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07-20-2015 , 03:09 PM
Sounds like Milford is the place to play if you don't care about rules.
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07-20-2015 , 03:14 PM
^^^ The two posts above me are awesome.

EDIT: Goddammit, Lattimer!
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07-20-2015 , 03:22 PM
Contrary to schizm's experience I did see them enforcing the $150 buy in limit. They would change more than that at the table, and then tell you that you had to keep the difference off the table for one hand. Most people just put it to the side and I guess were on the "honor" system.

Another thing I did see there, but admit I wasn't super focused on it so I could be wrong....I saw a guy UTG put in a red chip. A few folds later a player asks if that is a straddle or a call. If it was a straddle, it was SUPER close. The dealer had no idea, and the guy claimed it was a straddle, and was allowed to have his option.

One other note: Someone asks "is that a straddle" on about 8 out of 10 hands. It's ridiculous. The dealers usually do announce it, but that doesn't stop these meatheads from asking every time the $4 straddle is represented with a red $5 chip.

The dealer should just take the extra 1.5 seconds and change it to whites. But that would require the dealer to be thinking, paying attention, and interested in doing a good job.
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07-20-2015 , 04:00 PM
Wow, lol sample size I guess. I must have had everyone's best efforts for the short time I was there. If I have a different experience next time I'll certainly check back in.

And yes, every other hand someone needed to ask if the red chip is a straddle. It almost always was.
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07-20-2015 , 05:40 PM
The frequency of the straddle bet was actually a little surprising to me at first. But honestly, it makes perfect sense.

None of these people know what sensible poker is. It's gambling to them, and they approach it the exact same way you and I might approach roulette. Bigger bets mean bigger payoffs right? LOLZ

There is also this really f'd up code of honor that these people carry. Guys will BOAST about how indifferent they are to money. Like, they will show off by putting laughable amounts of money on dumb stuff. Straddling is one example. Calling "blind" is another. Shoving on the first hand of a tournament with ATC and picking up 1BB is considered "cool". And sometimes they seem to recognized their own inferiority by taking advantage of minimum buy-ins, but as soon as someone insults their play, or makes a fishy play against them..their attitude suddenly becomes "I'LL PLAY YOU HEADS UP FOR TEN THOUSAND!!"
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07-20-2015 , 09:47 PM
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Any attempt at running PLO at the Rock yet?
I'll go up the Rock or HF to play PLO if we can coordinate a few players to start a game. I heard both places say they will spread a game if they get enough demand.
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07-20-2015 , 10:02 PM
will it be a problem with the dealers? i could see them not starting it because you have to count the pot. idk if these guys had to go to dealer school or not.
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07-20-2015 , 10:17 PM
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will it be a problem with the dealers? i could see them not starting it because you have to count the pot. idk if these guys had to go to dealer school or not.
It could be. But its the same issue at Foxwoods, where 25% of the dealers can't count the pot, but there are always 2-5 players that will do it for them, with others confirming. Most of the dealers are used to dealing O8, so they know how to deal Omaha. I've been told they will spread it, at one place by a supervisor, at the other place by a friend who knows the supervisors.

I know the Rock was spreading NLO tourneys so the dealers wouldn't have to count the Pot, but hopefully they can get by this for cash games.

Despite some of the posts, Most of the dealers at the Rock and HF are very good and take pride in their work. But now I am talking about my experience with the tourney dealers. I didn't play much of the limit cash games and haven't been up since they started NL, so I don't know if its the same dealers. OK, some of the dealers may be a bit slow, but compare them to the average dealer at Foxwoods where you get an occasional zombie or blackjack dealer or someone that takes 3 minutes to deal 40 cards.
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07-20-2015 , 10:44 PM
yeah a lot of the dealers are actually very good. are there any card rooms in NH spreading PLO?? Omaha at the rock could be the next big thing lol.
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07-21-2015 , 01:11 AM
All this NH talk almost makes me want to take a vacation up there..
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07-21-2015 , 03:46 AM
You should def take a vacation there. Just don't play poker.

And LOL at the guy who thinks changing the red chip out will eliminate the "Is that a straddle?" questions, when in fact ANNOUNCING the straddle AND answering the question the first time it's asked will do nothing to stop the second guy from asking. I think you could put tape the word STRADDLE over a Missed Blind button, post it next to the straddle, and still be asked this question at least twice per hand.
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07-21-2015 , 03:40 PM
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You should def take a vacation there. Just don't play poker.

And LOL at the guy who thinks changing the red chip out will eliminate the "Is that a straddle?" questions, when in fact ANNOUNCING the straddle AND answering the question the first time it's asked will do nothing to stop the second guy from asking. I think you could put tape the word STRADDLE over a Missed Blind button, post it next to the straddle, and still be asked this question at least twice per hand.
epically true. rofl. good job, +1.
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07-21-2015 , 04:32 PM
Well the problem is so bad that I'll take even incremental improvement. Even if ONE guy is paying enough attention to see four white chips, and connect enough neurons to realize it's a straddle, then the situation is improved.

I know there are people who are so stupid they will ask anyway, but I would think that a competent dealer would realize that the game is slowing down and doing something about it. Changing out the red chip is just one potential solution. He could also tap the table in front of the active player and say "Four to call". Or just repeat every three seconds "straddle is on" until someone raises.

My point is, that dealers won't even THINK to do the easiest things. That's what happens when tipping is automatic.
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07-21-2015 , 05:08 PM
Any more details/news on the new chips arrival for Rock Park?

Debating heading there vs. Mohegan/Foxwoods this Saturday.
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07-21-2015 , 05:33 PM
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Any more details/news on the new chips arrival for Rock Park?

Debating heading there vs. Mohegan/Foxwoods this Saturday.
Still "Thursday" as of Monday. The $5 chips will be grey, to avoid confusion with the $2 chips.

They also apparently have $4 blackjack, with no rake, other than whatever the house edge is.

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