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View Poll Results: Which casino operator would you prefer to get E. Mass. license?
Wynn/Everett?
136 71.96%
Mohegan/Revere?
53 28.04%

06-02-2013 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
The initiated can find a traveling 1/2 game a little south of Boston that is legit and not an underground game or anything like that. Saw 10 1/2 tables going yesterday, but that was a bigger-than-usual draw. Most every night of the week, if not every. Usually plays big too. Its out there.
Can you elaborate?

If its the charity tournament series that runs NL side games, thats an underground game as far as i know
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06-02-2013 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Slingtown
Anyone got any info on twin rivers and a poker room? I've been hearing the commercials promoting table games coming to the casino this summer. They mention baccarat, blackjack etc "and more". I'm wondering if that and more will include a poker room.
honestly blame MA / RI players for this

they have/had a chance to push really hard for at least electronic poker tables and i saw absolutely nothing, because people incorrectly assume that MA casinos will be in business anytime soon
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06-05-2013 , 02:36 PM
Mass and Suffolk miles apart on how much revenue state should get. Headline in today's Globe.

Yup, the politicians will ask for too much, Suffolk will give in and it will cost gamblers. Higher rakes in poker, less return on slots etc.... or they will walk away and Steve Wynn will get it for Everett. They will blow the opportunity to be the place of choice in the area. IMO
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06-05-2013 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gotf
Mass and Suffolk miles apart on how much revenue state should get.
This makes no sense, as the state usually dictates how much it will take, and the applicants only apply if they're willing to pay it.

So I just searched the Globe's website. They're talking about the city, not the state.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...nPM/story.html

EDIT TO ADD: Nice little Easter Egg in that search result: NH Senate and House is debating a measure to bump up the betting limits in the charity games to $6. There's a real game-changer.
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06-05-2013 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
EDIT TO ADD: Nice little Easter Egg in that search result: NH Senate and House is debating a measure to bump up the betting limits in the charity games to $6. There's a real game-changer.
lol
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06-08-2013 , 03:40 AM
Well, just so the NH Gov's term isn't a total loss, at least she freed the slaves today.

Seriously.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013...kEO/story.html
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06-10-2013 , 12:12 AM
Maybe Foxwoods does not have to worry about Massachusetts after all. A horse racing buddy told me about this last week. He said he will never bet in Mass again unless this is changed. Now I read it applies to casino winnings. How will they know how much you sat in with or rebought at the poker table.

How could anyone play a high stakes limit game. They would get crushed at the cage and if they take out for state taxes, you better believe there is a paper trail to the fed level.

Way to blow it Mass, but after living here 50+ years I should expect nothing less

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...trK/story.html
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06-10-2013 , 06:07 AM
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“This is very simple — all forms of legalized wagering in the Commonwealth now have the same rule that is consistent with the [Internal Revenue Service’s] rules,” said state Senator Stanley Rosenberg, an Amherst Democrat and one of the architects of the 2011 Gaming Act.
That's hilarious. The only thing it has in common with the IRS rule is "$600". The IRS has a million exceptions (most importantly, the 300-1 requirement--it doesn't trigger withholding for someone who wins a $600 even money bet, for example), where it sounds like MA does not.

Wow wow wow.

The best part is that the quote above comes from the "architect" of the state's Gaming Act. That's the kind of leadership we can expect.

When I tell people I'm waiting for MA or NH to get casinos so I can move back home, they usually ask, "Why not CT?". I tell them the CT casinos aren't very close to my hometown in NE MA, but more importantly, they're run so terribly, I wouldn't want to work there. I'm starting to feel the same say about the MA casinos, which don't even exist yet!
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06-13-2013 , 12:13 PM
I just now recall that when Nevada introduced sports betting, they imposed a similar tax on each and every sports bet. It didn't last long. Let's hope this doesn't, either.
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06-20-2013 , 10:06 AM
Everett, MA, will vote Saturday on Wynn casino proposal; any predictions?
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06-20-2013 , 02:10 PM
You know, I've been rooting for CET over Wynn, because my sister knows folks over at Suffolk and she'd have some juice come hiring time...but with that ridiculous Gaming Tax they're planning, which would make casinos in MA pointless, I'm switching sides and rooting for Wynn now--because I think he'd make it his mission to appear before the MA Gaming Commission in person to convince them that the tax is a terrible idea.

(Yes, sadly, I think CET is dumb enough to not consider this.)
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06-20-2013 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
You know, I've been rooting for CET over Wynn, because my sister knows folks over at Suffolk and she'd have some juice come hiring time...but with that ridiculous Gaming Tax they're planning, which would make casinos in MA pointless, I'm switching sides and rooting for Wynn now--because I think he'd make it his mission to appear before the MA Gaming Commission in person to convince them that the tax is a terrible idea.

(Yes, sadly, I think CET is dumb enough to not consider this.)
Even in MA, I don't think that that idiotic tax will ever be applied to poker, even if it's not amended or repealed out. How would you collect it from poker players?
As far as Wynn vs. CET, I expect that Wynn would build a higher-quality place, but I have a lot of sympathy for the folks already working at Suffolk, and Suffolk is somewhat closer to where I live. So either would be fine with me; I only hope that one of them gets approved and built soon (ie, within 2-3 years).
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06-21-2013 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MJ88
Even in MA, I don't think that that idiotic tax will ever be applied to poker, even if it's not amended or repealed out. How would you collect it from poker players?
Treat every $600 pot like a bbj. Have your ID ready. Easy game.

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I only hope that one of them gets approved and built soon (ie, within 2-3 years).
LOL. I'm betting twice that long.
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06-22-2013 , 11:22 AM
[QUOTE=youtalkfunny;39032062]Treat every $600 pot like a bbj. Have your ID ready. Easy game.


It would even be more absurd than that. Suppose you are $500 deep get it all in heads up and win. Not taxable because net profit is less than $600. Yet $300 deep three way all in plus $3 in blinds, gets you +603. Imagine the arguement about the $4 rake and $1 for bad beat. Back under $600. But when would you have to pay it. Win a pot for profit of $800, next hand get felted, what they hand you a bill for $40 on your way out? So f'n stoopid
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06-22-2013 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Treat every $600 pot like a bbj. Have your ID ready. Easy game.


It would even be more absurd than that. Suppose you are $500 deep get it all in heads up and win. Not taxable because net profit is less than $600. Yet $300 deep three way all in plus $3 in blinds, gets you +603. Imagine the arguement about the $4 rake and $1 for bad beat. Back under $600. But when would you have to pay it. Win a pot for profit of $800, next hand get felted, what they hand you a bill for $40 on your way out? So f'n stoopid
Again, I'm all for repeal of any tax, but I don't think above is practical, anyway. Also, it would destroy higher limit games. We'll see.
Anyway, 11 pm tv news reports Everett vote on Wynn casino passed by a "wide margin". On to East Boston... (and Milford).....
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06-23-2013 , 07:15 PM
Wynn crushes the vote in Everett with 86% support.

No idea if he can beat Caesars at Suffolk Downs for the license with all the insider Boston support, but it's am impressive showing.

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/..._proposal.html
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06-25-2013 , 05:50 AM
I finally had some time to briefly look over the MGM/Springfield host community agreement and was happy to see that the agreement includes a poker room being part of the casino! Now let's just hope MA get's it together and allows them to operate and compete with Foxwoods and life will be good for poker players in the I-91 corridor!
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06-25-2013 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 413AceKing
I finally had some time to briefly look over the MGM/Springfield host community agreement and was happy to see that the agreement includes a poker room being part of the casino! Now let's just hope MA get's it together and allows them to operate and compete with Foxwoods and life will be good for poker players in the I-91 corridor circa 2019 !
FYP

But seriously, the term snails pace doesn't even begin to describe how the MA casino situation is unfolding. It would be interesting to see a time line to reinforce just how long this has dragged out and, based at least on that, how much more still lies ahead before anyone is yelling "shuffle up and deal" in a poker room that's part of a fully operational MA casino.
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06-25-2013 , 05:02 PM
This was posted on the gaming commisions page today.

MGC Timeline "What you need to know"

http://massgaming.com/licensing-regulations/timeline/
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06-25-2013 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny

Speaking of the Eagle Tribune, did you guys see the Op-Ed piece they ran before the bill passed? It was supposed to be a Letter to the Editor, but it was way too long (if you've read my posts before, that shouldn't surprise you), so I submitted it as an Op-Ed piece, and to my surprise, they ran it one Sunday morning.

http://www.eagletribune.com/opinion/...asino-gambling
Outraged by the ridiculous Gaming Tax, I've spent this afternoon composing my next Op-Ed piece: an open apology to Senator Tucker. When she cited as reason for her opposition the incredible bureaucracy created by needing to overhaul the State Police and Attorney General's office to oversee casinos, it was the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard, and I wrote to the newspaper to publicly call her a liar, that no state does things like that. Turns out, she was wrong, all right--she forgot to mention the ABC creating its own casino division to oversee the alcohol being served in the casinos, as well!
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07-13-2013 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
EDIT TO ADD: Nice little Easter Egg in that search result: NH Senate and House is debating a measure to bump up the betting limits in the charity games to $6. There's a real game-changer.
They had the 5 page New England gambling paper available in the poker room at Foxwoods this past week.

Quick blurb about how house and senate are not agreeing on raising the limits to $6, which doesn't change anything really, not until you start talking about no limit.

I find some irony today as I drove up 130 to Brookline NH to see my daughter who is a councilor at a summer camp. Was traveling behind a bunch of helmetless bikers on some sort of rally. Many had black "Live Free or Die T- shirts. I don't ride and don't really care if they wear helmets or not. No axe to grind, except the legislature must feel it more dangerous to allow a $5 bet in a poker game the state than it is to not wear protective headgear.
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07-17-2013 , 01:21 AM
Springfield citizens approved the MGM casino proposal. 58% voted yes. Next step is the gaming commission.
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07-18-2013 , 04:56 PM
Talk about an exercise in futility. The Poker Room in NH is having a charity event this weekend, however offers no details on the Structure Sheet or The Payout %'s offered. (other than to say 10% of field gets paid).

Requested the info via their Facebook Page.....no response. Via a Facebook group w/a bunch of their regs.....nothing but a bunch of internet trolling....and a scanned copy of a photo of structure sheet that can hardly be read from that.

Sent an e-mail to the Poker Room Manager. Got a reply saying he was "lying on the beach in Maine" and could not provide me the the payout info.

So unprofessional.

You wont see me there.....but then again, that's probably what they want

Last edited by ZenForest; 07-18-2013 at 05:03 PM.
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07-19-2013 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenForest
Talk about an exercise in futility. The Poker Room in NH is having a charity event this weekend, however offers no details on the Structure Sheet or The Payout %'s offered. (other than to say 10% of field gets paid).

Requested the info via their Facebook Page.....no response. Via a Facebook group w/a bunch of their regs.....nothing but a bunch of internet trolling....and a scanned copy of a photo of structure sheet that can hardly be read from that.

Sent an e-mail to the Poker Room Manager. Got a reply saying he was "lying on the beach in Maine" and could not provide me the the payout info.

So unprofessional.

You wont see me there.....but then again, that's probably what they want
LOL, let me help you out. High juice, poor structure. i mean for godsakes it's a charity room in NH not the Aria.
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