Yup - PLO high was running at BBCC by 3:30. The room as a whole was very busy.

Two interesting things....

Apparently at BBCC the rule is that if Player A bets a river and is called by Player B, and Player B mucks without showing, not only does Player A not have to show as a rule to win the pot, but the dealer is not able to turn his hand up if another person at the table specifically says IWTSTH?! I'm by no means a rule authority, but is that a rule anywhere else? I think most of the other rooms I've played in either (a) require the winner to show to drag the pot on a called bet even if the other player mucks, or (b) will flip the hand if someone else makes that request. Or am I wrong?

But here's a real doozie from the $2-$4 main game - on a J-10-8-7 board with two hearts, there was an all-in and call, with the river coming a heart. The player who called the all-in flipped up 9h-5h before the river and the other player who had gone all in had 9-7. Somehow after the river the dealer awarded the pot to the 9h-5h player except didn't pull in the remainder of the 9-7 players' chips despite the fact that it was the 9-7 player who went all-in. In other words, the 9h-5h player got what was already in the pot before the turn, but not the chips the 9-7 player still had in his stack, which was something like $300 more! I was going to say something, but I figured I had to have misread the board or misheard since neither the dealer nor the 9h-5h player said anything. Probably the dealer thought the 9-7 player hadn't been the one to say all-in, and though he'd folded to the 9-5 player's all-in? About an hour later one of the players near me ask me about the hand and confirmed what I thought I'd seen/heard. I felt pretty bad, but i honestly wasn't sure at the time and figured if the dealer and the winning player let it go I must've been mistaken. Yikes....

it was correctly listed on PokerAtlas this week. I didn't go but figured for I'd chime in for the two people with less than 10 posts who got up in arms about it last week. Whats up with cheers? wheres Puckster?

Only at Foxwoods is that a rule. Letting a player muck their hand and allowing them to see the other live hands is really bad for the game. Secondly, that does sound like a doozie haha.

[QUOTE=Slingtown;52659490]it was correctly listed on PokerAtlas this week. I didn't go but figured for I'd chime in for the two people with less than 10 posts who got up in arms about it last week. Whats up with cheers? wheres Puckster?

Yea Puck? When will everyone know our name?

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It's 100% A and E on site....

It's a very typical rule here in Vegas, if player A bets, player B calls and player A throws is hand in the muck, player B doesn't have to show.

Foxwoods' rule is that winning hand must be shown to claim pot at showdown, even if other hand is mucked; no IWTSTH.

2 floors, 2 rulings at twin river the other day.

"Late September" is architectural speak for November FYI. But I can't wait! If you have a PLO game, you'll have a steady customer in me.

Nothing was more frustrating for me dealing in NH than hearing players cite Foxwoods as the Gold Standard for poker rules. These players were all shocked to hear from a dealer who has dealt all over the USA that Foxwoods is widely considered the worst-run cardroom in America. They've never been anywhere else, and always thought Foxwoods=Las Vegas.

As for the dealer forgetting to settle up bets when the chips weren't put in the pot, that happens sometimes, esp in PLO, when a dealer needs to keep track of so many things. Protect yourself at all times, boys, don't expect an over-worked poker dealer to do it for you.

(anyone dealing PLO is overworked. Less than 5% of PLO players can keep track of how much is in the pot, they need an update from the dealer on every street. My standard line was, "Come on, fellas, I can't do the thinking for all NINE of you!" I'd be ashamed to call myself a pot-limit player if I never knew how much was in the pot--that's like boasting about being a good Connect4 player when you cant count to four!)

Ha! I agree. When I see a player asking the dealer how much is in the pot or when they bet "Pot!" instead of the amount (because they don't know what the amount is) I see $$$ and I ain't going anywhere.

Hampton Falls rule regarding showdown is dumb.

No matter what, last aggressor shows at showdown. Even if (for example): D bets $10 on flop and BB calls. Turn check check and River check check. Per their rules, Dealer must show first.

Idiotic IMO.

My family is likely going to do a day trip to Salsbury Beach this weekend or next. It looks like Seabrook and Hampton are both pretty close by, and I intend to duck out to play for a couple of hours.

By way of background, I used to play in Seabrook a decade ago (oh the $150 shorthanded SNGs..........) but the only NH rooms I've played in since 2012 or so were Rockingham and now BBCC. I haven't gone back to scour the recent thread posts, but is my recollection correct that Hampton is by far the more popular/favored room? Do they both have the same opening time, and will $2-$4 run at both during the early afternoon on weekends? If it runs at both, what does each room have going for it.

Hampton Falls is always pretty crowded and 2-4 runs throughout the day. Seabrook is pretty dead usually.


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Hampton Falls will have 4-5 2/4nl games going all weekend, while Seabrook is lucky to have one.

Hampton Falls also has a random lucky seat drawing hourly for $100 and BBJ both for NL and PLO.

Also, HF tourneys have more runners as well.

Last aggressor shows first is pretty standard.

Unfortunately so is players in a $21 pot not wanting to show the rest of the table all their secret betting ranges.

haha. Yah I love that when two absolute morons have the I'm not showing pissing match. I'm always trying to be less of a dick at the table (and in life) but one time a guy did this and made the statement "I'm trying to get information". I interjected that by everything I have seen even with information he was too much of a idiot to even use it. It went over well with the table and there wasn't much he could reply with.

You're proud of that? Way to tap the tank.

Last aggressor on the river, yes. But if action goes check/check on the river, then it's supposed to be the first to act must show first. Having the button show first because they bet on the flop, is nonsense.

Tapping the tank is so ten years ago. Degens gonna degen. A well timed joke goes along way.

I think I agree with that!

As a dealer, I've always tried to get the players to treat each other nicely, because (1) it's the decent thing to do, and (2) the offended player might stop coming back to a place where he's treated poorly.

But very recently, I've realized that they're going to keep coming back no matter how poorly they are treated. The only way to play this game is to sit at a table for long periods of time with people who WILL annoy you. That's part of the deal, and they (heh, "we") are all fine with that.

Makes my job so much easier, that realization.

Yah I think there are times where people are discussing ranges and **** like that between two competent players. That is tapping the glass and personally I think some people like to stroke their ego and let everyone know that they are real deal poker pros.

This wasn't a case where I explained to him someone's value betting range or pot odds. I simply made him look like a clown to a table that loved it. Players (the one I talked **** too) like that aren't gaining any insight and are usually fine with talking **** at the table. I'm sure it just made this type of player more apt to prove how good he was.

But overall I think we are way past that stage in poker. Most players just won't put in any serious effort to properly utilize the strategies they discuss, won't put in the work but its not like the player pools are full of complete fish who have no idea about the world of poker strategy.

I mean yeah, I guess it's player dependent and if you know the people well it's ok. I just never like to tell someone how bad they are. YMMV.

Incorrect.

^This.