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Chasers anecdote...

One recent sunday, during the half-hour high-hand promotion, AAA88 was on the board with just a few minutes to go. A hand went down at my table. The board was AAQxx. Two players battled it out with one folding on the end. The winner, showed his hand to the loser, but no one else.

Then the loser left.

A few minutes later he's talking about the hand with someoene else at the table. Claims he had AQ. The other guy didn't believe him because "you'd have the high hand if you had AQ". So then the guy starts going nuts. Calls the floor...

He tells the floor what happened, and says "that guy that just left saw my hand, you can ask him"

And the floor was like "Ok, I'll see if I can find him" WTF?????!!!!!!!!

About 15 minutes later the floor guy comes back. Now...at this point, AAA88 had already been paid for that half-hour. We were now on a new half hour and KKK77 was currently on the board.

Floor guy says "I couldn't find that dude, but I check the camera and we could see that you had AQ"

So then, they put AAAQQ on the board, even though it happened during the previous half-hour.

Not sure how I feel about this...

Mr chip would never do anything underhanded and sneaky
unless AQ guy is a buddy of his ??????

oh here come the paid chippy's chirping his praise now

Are you implying that a multi-millionaire with an excellent reputation is risking everything to pay a friend $300 of player funded money? I gave your original post some credibility until I read this follow up.

CHIP chirp CHIP chirp

are you implying you get paid more than $300 ?

No point in feeding the trolls. Logic and critical thinking are beyond them.

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that's what I was thinking, good point

FROM RagingOwl Chasers anecdote...(My Response)

One recent Sunday (True, July 1), during the half-hour high-hand promotion(False, this happened at 10:19pm during our 10p-midnight 2-hour final High Hand), AAA88 was on the board(True) with just a few minutes to go(way False). A hand went down at my table. The board was AAQxx(True). Two players battled it out with one folding on the end. The winner, showed his hand to the loser, but no one else(so False, He spun the queen to show it to all, dealer, seat 1 and seat 8 likely didn't see it, than after the dealer scooped this card up with the board, he flipped the ace over, same way).

Then the loser left(unknown but lets say True).

A few minutes later he's talking about the hand with someoene else at the table. Claims he had AQ. The other guy didn't believe him because "you'd have the high hand if you had AQ". So then the guy starts going nuts. Calls the floor...(a mixture of True and False, it was a clean calm call of the floor).

He tells the floor what happened, and says "that guy that just left saw my hand, you can ask him(unkown)

And the floor was like "Ok, I'll see if I can find him" WTF?????!!!!!!!!(False)

About 15 minutes later the floor guy comes back. Now...at this point, AAA88 had already been paid for that half-hour. We were now on a new half hour and KKK77 was currently on the board.(False and this is a reason I near never reply on social media. So many people make stuff up and then they and others believe it. Iwent to the video and watched, this happened 20 minutes into a 2-hour end-of-night High Hand and it was resolved by 10:40pm. We did post the AAAQQ under the thought of , we got it right. I am not sure whether we overstepped or not--this is one of those things that rarely happens. We do stress player first and we do stress getting it right so I am okay with this decision. NOTE: This hand eventually got beat out by AAAKK, and AAAKK won the final High Hand and no it wasn't my new BFF snowman).

Floor guy says "I couldn't find that dude, but I check the camera and we could see that you had AQ"(mostly True)

So then, they put AAAQQ on the board(True), even though it happened during the previous half-hour(False).

Not sure how I feel about this...

I am very proud of our entire team and here, even if some do not agree with the ruling, it is consistent with us wanting to get it right. Even with the misleading portion of this post, I am thankful this post happened, we all at Chasers spent significant time on it and we did learn from it.

Even if that hand happened exactly as you described it, the player did not table his hand. I don't think a high hand should qualify if the dealer exposed the hand instead of the player. More importantly, I don't think a dealer should be turning a non-tabled card over. If I win a pot by getting everyone to fold and I choose to show only one card, I would be pissed if the dealer flipped over my other card.

I read it as the dealer scooped the queen and then the player tabled the Ace in the same way that he table the queen.... Clarification?

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Sorry if I wasn't clear, this did not happen.

Yes, this one-at-a-time exposing by the player only is what I am saying.

Was there yesterday (Friday late afternoon). Arrived at around 3 PM w/ 1 table of 1/2 running - they got 2 tables of 1/2 up by around 6 PM. Waitlist for 2/5 and that was going to go about 20 minutes before I left - but I had to take my name off because I was leaving - and the rest didn't want to play 4-handed. Max buy-in is $300 at 1/2 and $500 at 2/5 (though most buyins were $100 at the 1/2 game).


Quality of play was.... non-expert. Mostly weak-loose pre, weak-tight post. Many players bet sizing was completely static with no relation to the pot. Majority of players played their hand face up. A couple players gave action but exhibited unthinking aggression - which isn't that difficult to exploit (and it's not just wait for the nuts). I'd also say the number of times I saw weak-tight nits over-bet jam the flop when action players are in and just expect action players to call was laughable.

Room is generally friendly with most people (and dealers) knowing each others. Dealers are allowed to play when not on clock. Dealers are mostly good though make a few mistakes (I saw 3 or 4 cards when they were pitching them that caused redeals or dead cards), but are self-aware and completely un-arrogant. Given we're less than a week in, these minor mistakes aren't a big deal. Dealers will also participate in table chatter and know most of the players. However I'd bring headphones as the 'crusty-old man who gets bad beat every-time they play and has to tell you all about it' ratio is much higher than normal and annoying to hear about.

Water is free - other drinks cost money. Everything from the restaurant attached. It's middle of the woods NH so everything is cheap ($3.25 bottled beers). Chairs are fine and room is fine (again remember this is middle of nowhere NH).

Annoying note - ATM in the attached restaurant has a max withdrawal of $200 - which means multiple transactions.

Overall it's pretty good and worth checking out if in the area. I wouldn't drive any significant distance to play here though, especially since it's very possible to get stuck at a weak-passive nit table and never see a pot over $40.

Edit - a couple other notes
- UTG and button straddles to $5 allowed (this was 1/2, I assume allowed to $10 at 2/5). Button straddle takes precedence. Not uncommon - mostly from players trying to un-nit the place up.

- Eating at table is allowed. Again order from restaurant next door (food is perfectly fine bar food but nothing special)

- Also spread Spanish 21, Roulette, and "New Hampshire Hold'em" (which is just Mississippi Stud).

- While only 2 tables spread, there were 6 or 8 tables total so there's room to grow. Hopefully it does.

If your stating a player tabled his hand(thou unconventionally) and dealer failed to notice it was a HH hand at the time and during the same time period you took steps to correct it than Kudo's for that; I'll give credit where due.

Chasers announced on Saturday, that in the month of August they'll be opening at 11AM on weekends.

Idk if this will be going forward or just for August.

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Not all of this is accurate IMO. See comments in blue

Alright man, but my two cents is that you're opening pandoras box here. good luck closing it. In my opinion, the policy should be "table your ****ing hand, or shut up"

You most definitely had an employee say he would go and ask another player about the contents of an exposed hand with the implication that the information would be used to determine winners and losers of a promotional prize.

Surely you see how messed up that is.

Much appreciated. Sounds like a room with potential, although I'm not sure what is will aspire to if it only has 6-8 tables. Probably there won't be much in the way of promotions and maybe 2-5 on weekends if they're lucky.

Pretty shady - IMO - marketing of BBC's promotion this weekend. It was advertised as poker plinko where on Saturday and Sunday the ten hourly high hand winners could drop a Plinko chip on a board and win a $500-$10,000, much like how it was advertised back in June (see here: http://www.bostonbilliardclubcasino....-plinko-day-1/).

The catch is there was no $10,000 slot. To win the $10,000 you had to drop it in the lone $2,500 spot four times in a row! But wait - there's more. If you did manage to drop it in the $2,500 spot and opted to try your luck to hit the $2,500 again in order to to continue your quest to get $10,000 and, say, you landed only in a $1,000 spot on your second try, that became your prize instead. So yeah - $10,000 pretty much was impossible, yet it was there quite prominently in the marketing materials.

I went on Sunday and the room was pretty full from 12-5 when I was there. Oh, and no one even hit the $2,500 on Saturday nor in the four drops I saw on Sunday. For those who care, they apparently have been running at least one table of a mixed $2-$5 NL holdem and $1-$3 (I think it's 1-3, not 1-2) PLO high on most nights plus weekends, according to folks I spoke to at my $2-$5 table.

We committed to opening at 11am for Saturday and Sunday at the Players request. We want to see how much internal issue it creates with management and dealers etc before we make it our normal business hours.

Our goal is to make it permanent

I think we are saying similar things; the mgr stating he will talk with the other player is odd and it needs to be addressed...thank you for this.

Pandoras Box--I stated earlier it feels like an overstep, so I pretty much agree with you here. My being happy with the team is because we don't have a policy so the goal of the team was to get it right...that I'm happy with. We still have not made a policy here, however, we are leaning towards we don't use our surveillance system to help a player who had a brain-fart. Not sure I'll like whichever way we go here, very happy it appears to be a 1-time-in-9-months-event lol.

Above all, thanks for the post, it has helped.

Overall, the room is run fantastic. There certainly needs to be a specific HH policy in place and whenever you can include in any rule that it is "the players responsibility" it takes a lot of the guesswork out of future decisions such as this one.

Remember it's in the middle of nowhere. It's never going to get big and great. Hope there are enough clueless retired people in the area to continue to drive action.

They claim to have had 2/5 running on Weds/Thurs/Fri night and may have gotten it Sat night for all I know - I left before 9 PM as I had other things to do.

Promotions - they claim to plan on creating an hourly high hand promotion and are currently taking $2 from every pot over $50 to fund it (but no high hand promotion). Kind of annoying, but as long as there's a lot of action I can deal.

Like I said - I wouldn't drive any significant distance to play here, but if you're in the area it's fine.

It is just down the road from Dartmouth, and NHs legal gambling age at poker rooms is 18. I can easily see those rooms filling up quickly once the school year starts up again.


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I'm not sure I'd label that the middle of nowhere. Location-wise maybe, but beyond what the above poster said about Dartmouth there's also White River Junction which is maybe 20 minutes away and a place I could see having a player pool, not to mention Lebanon itself, which is a decently populated city/town for New Hampshire. Plus who knows - maybe they can draw in some of the vacationers in Quechee and Woodstock? And the lack of any other room even close has to help a lot. I guess if it grows popular enough they could always find a bigger location. Color me interested.

I live here so I realize what's around. This isn't a metro area.

Edit - had a whole post typed up but just found out that the Upper Valley is the nation's larges "micro-region". They must be pretty generous with land area for that because no town in the area bigger than 13.5k people but that's something.

The best bet is people swinging through on the way to/from Killington in the winter and the numerous breweries around during the 4 non-winter months up here (I'm exagerrating - the snow melted in late April this year). However, for that the place is going to need better signage and the entrance to the joint building will need to be redone to be more welcoming.

Look, I'm hopeful that this works out in the long run and they can expand. I love having live poker less than 15 minutes from my house but I think it's important to keep expectations realistic.