The floor is even more clueless.

The players are even more clueless

+1

+10

Biggest reason I continue to put up with the clueless dealers and floor.

Not as much as you think.

So anyone who does not dress to your standards is a fish. Anyone who wears hoodie, glasses etc etc sucks at poker and is a target ???

What if I was running late and the only hat lying around was a stars hat a friend gave me or something ?

I don't know who I'd rather play against. People who classify people based on the clothes they wear INSTEAD of how they are actually playing.

or

Drunk Guy


Oh well from what I hear I'm still better off playing in vegas. Sounds like the DRINKS come wayyyyyyyyyy faster. Easier to play against drunks....and still get my 10 shots of tequila down.


Rather golf at Mt. Airy than Pocono Pines anyway a lot more wide open

Make it 100/200 400/800

Dem dere coal miners wills nevers runs out of monies.

If I'm management and I have 20 deep lines the last thing I'm gonna do is open an Omaha game. Deals too slow... Rake comes in too slow.

It was great in Vegas when we had the O/8 Night at teh Excalibur on the electronic tables because everything went so fast. Live O/* sucks

(I am biased tho cause it cost me part of a 120k property wide bad beat jackpot by 15 minutes)

(Gotta play higher where de respect muy raises LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL)

2/4 is a joke to you a serious player (at least by your posts anyway)

Although to the masses who don't have a lot of disposable income 2/4 is a fun way to pass time, have a few drinks and mebbe win a few bucks.

Downs ??FTW

Hey I read through the pages I might have missed it on pg 3 somehow....

But how long did the stud game last was it Over/Under a week ????

And that's fine. I agree, for the casual play 2/4 or 3/6 is fine. But most players that post on 2+2 are a little more than casual players. What I'm saying is that if you're playing for more than just "passing time and a few free drinks" than you should be playing higher limits.

And you don't need a disposable roll to play 10/20 limit holdem. I can easily sit with $300, play solid poker, and walk away with a nice profit. Or you could sit at $1/$2 with $300, hit a big hand, get it all-in with the best hand, and get rivered and lose it all in one hand.

Hee Haw.

And as far as the Omaha at Mt. Airy....when was the last time there was a long list for 1/2? The past few times I've been there, there have only been half or less tables being used. Guess the PA poker boom is dying.

That was quick.

I was hoping 1-5 stud would become big again. Not for poker or money of course.....

But NOTHING says "kill my liver" more than a no-ante low card bring in 1-5 stud game....

Ohhhh waitress I'll take my 10th Martini please..

cool long as we are in agreement 2+2 problably .000001 percent of poker playing community.

While I would love to make 2+2 happy I'd rather make the masses happy.

and yeah when you take different concepts about poker like in some of the Essay books etc etc.

Usually what 2+2 wants is good for poker......not always tho

EDIT : bah what do I know I loved the PokerTek tables thought they were the next big thing...and soooo much better for mix, omaha, stud etc etc.
I guess you can say my word is worth as much as a Todd Marinovich NFL rookie football card lol

I'll be at Mt. Airy next weekend to play some poker. despite what I've heard so far, I am looking forward to checking it out.

Around what time do the wait lists get long on a Friday? If I'm there by 7 should I be ok?

The PA Poker Boom is far from over im at Sands right now 10 tables filled 27 wait for 1/2 15 for 2/5 looks like a 5/5 will start soon. Airy just needs a better room not so tightly packed in, bring their comp rate up to at least .50 like the competition.

As far as poker site gear is concerned my main point is I find most players wearing this stuff are bad. They see it on tv think its intimidateing and copy. Of course there are exceptions.

As for 2/4 being a joke, I say that because it's nearly impossible to beat in the long run when you consider the rake. Nothing against those who want to donk around and drink for free.

I was there the last 2 Fridays around that time and there has not been a wait. Saturday between 8-10 can be a little wait, but the lists seem to move pretty quickly. I haven't experienced the 2 hour wait thing since the first month they were open.

I don't think the PA poker boom is over either. What folks must remember is that Mt. Airy is not located near a major population center. The Sands has Easton, Allentown, and Bethlehem. Pocono Downs has Scranton. Mount Airy is relying on lots of tourists so mid-week tends to be a little quiet, especially around this time of year. I expect it to pick up a bit once skiing and hunting season starts. I also think once they get tournaments going, it will draw a lot more people in.

I guess so. Maybe there's more degens in Bethlehem! But Sands attracts more players from NYC and Central NJ, I think. I've seen quite a few AC regs there. Haven't seen any at Mt. Airy. I haven't been back to the Sands since the time it took me 2 hrs to get to the NJ state line because of construction.

Anyways, I agree Mt. Airy's room is small, but last Wednesday night at 9pm when I was there, they had zero 2/5, two 1/2, and one 2/4 tables going with no lists. So, if you look at it from strictly a numbers viewpoint, why should they expand if there's no need to? Yes, I know weekends are busier, but from what I've seen it's not nearly that of what the Sands attracts.

While I suppose a nicer, roomier area will attract more players...will it be enough to make it worth the while of hiring more employees/larger room costs?

And, what about the possiblity of Fernwood in E. Strousburg getting the last PA gaming license? If that happens, how many people from NJ/NY gonna drive the extra 10+ miles to get to Mt. Airy then?

I agree that Mount Airy can't support a bigger room right now. Mon-Wed. is dead and all pretty much all regs. I'm sure they don't mind when there are lists on the weekends or holidays as it gives people a chance to dump money in the pit games. Things might change when/if they start tournaments, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Your right they dont need a bigger room right now because weekdays are dead, thats why im at Sands. When tournaments start though if they spread a good daily scheduel they will def need more tables and room. Airy put a sour taste in a lot of peoplea mouth when comps werent working for the first two months and the crampedness when it was crowded. Alot of people from NJ & NYC said **** this im just going to Sands.

I'm the first to admin that mt airy has some flaws. But I gotta mention that last wednesday is a bad example. Last Wednesday there were some major storms keeping people home.

Every other time I've been there, there has always been at least one full table of 2/5 with a waitlist.

FYP



Much more important to keep the 97 percent happy than the 3 percent (whatever the number is)

I'm not saying you don't in any way but if you see a guy wearing a poker hat in a casino you should go out of your way to complement him on it.

I believe the quote is from the Video Game "lords of the Realm 2"

Feed the Peasants to make them happy.

I'm realized a long time ago I win a LOT LOT LOT LOT more money when I'm sober.

I also realized winning 6-15 dollars an hour sober sucks compared to losing 4 dollars an hour piss drunk.

Life EV more important than soberness.

Seriously tho after playing poker in NEPA for about 14 years If you can't beat the locals at the downs or mt airy. You problably should not be playign seriously and just DRINKING MUCH MORE !!!!.

I dream of the day I can come back !!!!!! Not gonna happen unless vegas goes smoke/booze/prostitution/drug free

I agree when I see ppl wearing poker gear I talk to them about it and see if theyre educated in online poker or not, not berate then. Most of the time they dont know what rakeback is or never heard the term 3bet or cbet and then you know what your up against.

Right now 4 1/2 3 2/4 1 2/5 short wait for 1/2 and 2/4 new games opening with enough names.

So on the river im IP and EP bets $20 I reraise to $60 and dealer pulls in the initial $20 from each of us. EP says I guess I gotta pay you off and tosses in $20 dealer says its $40 and he says "Oh, I didnt see you pull the bets in can I take it back?". Now the rule at Airy is the table line is the betting line.

Floor comes over and is explained the situation looks confused looks at me and says "What do you want to do?". I laugh and say I want a legit ruleing according to the rules, he dosent say anything and I offer to EP to leave the $20 muck and save th other $20 if he wants and he says no. Floor eventually just says the $20 has to stay in so the guy calls. Its amazing how clueless the floor still is with their own rules, night shift knows them but during the day...... Its a flip.

Played last night, first time I've brought my ipod with me. Got seated right away as there were only 6 total tables running with open seats at around 7:15. I put on my headphones and Scott(floor) comes to me and says I can't wear them. He says it's a new rule that was implemented today, no more headphones at the table. WTF? First, they say no hoodies, now no headphones either? What's next, they gonna remove the TVs?

At 8pm, the night shift came in so I asked one of the more competent dealers about this rule. He didn't know anything about it. And neither did anyone else on the night shift. So the floor came to me and said I can put them on if I wanted since nobody there knew about the rule. Do the floor just make up these stupid rules as they feel or is there an actual set of rules in writing?

Also, I heard they laid off 3 dealers this week. There was a brand new dealer that was pretty bad last night. He was about to deal after the autoshuffler flashed a red light for only 50 cards.

I realize it's a young room, but sometimes it seems it's going in the wrong direction.

Based on many decisions I've seen Scott make, I think he might be retarted.