Can confirm it's typically not an ego thing. The few of us that always push for that game and the 5/10 just want to play higher/deeper. 100 BB games are the stone worst. Avoid the day games and come at night and there's generally pretty good action.

I visited yesterday for the first time since December, logging a few hours first at 1-2 (still slow and filled with spots) and then mainly at 2-5. Granted, I arrived just before lunch, but it was incredibly reg infested - and this was a Friday! Even though the room was decently crowded by the time I left (2pm), the energy just wasn't there. No one was having fun or anything. And keep in mind this was the same day as (1) a MMA event, (2) Whiskeyfest, and (3) school vacation week for Massachusetts. Maybe it perked up by late afternoon.

I also worry about the long term viability of the operation, since they used to open the Wind gaming area by noon on Fridays, but apparently that's no longer the case. And the smoke free gaming section of the winter casino, which I'm pretty sure opened at 11AM on the nose each and every day, wasn't up and running until after lunch. Even the high limit section of the Winter casino was dead, mostly empty reserved tables with dealers just waiting for their designated whale to arrive. There were also far, far fewer older folks who used to line the rows of slots during daytime hours. The Sun casino was seemingly as packed as always - don't get me wrong, but I think this place seems to be banking on trying to survive by cramming as many people in there on the weekends, plus fill the hotels with conventioneers. Very depressing.

My wife is looking to take her friends up to Mohegan for random stuff (e.g. dinner, the spa, drinks, etc.). The regular room rate is over $400 per night. Do any of you have experience in getting a room for non-poker. I know the poker room rates are for poker use, but...

Can I make a reservation for my wife?

You have to check in, as far as I know.

Dont stay here unless u get comped. its expensive as hell

I think what you're asking is whether you can make the reservation for yourself to get the poker rate, but just have your wife use the room.

The answer is you could, but she isn't going to get the poker rate. They'll match up your hours playing with room. If they don't show any hours playing, they can charge her the full rack rate. One alternative is that you can play and stay in a cheap room outside the casino while she and her friends have fun. If it is just for one night, you can just stay in the poker room playing.

Thanks Venice. That's exactly what I was trying to convey. I appreciate it.

What's up with this place? Last month there were 6 2/5 games running one night, 2 must moves, and each game was better than the next. Heard one reg say how he'd love to transfer to any game and joked about multi-tabling. I was there last weekend in the table max game full of nits and again yesterday in arguably the worst 2/5 game I'd ever played in and it was the only one running.

Is there any rhyme or reason as to what is going on? Is it the HH that much of a factor in driving these games? If so, run a HH every day to fill the room up as the 3 hour HH doesn't do anything to attract players.

I hit the high hand the other day, but someone told me something different. I just want to clarify, thanks!

I had high hand twice, but only once they paid me.

We need both two cards to form the high hand, correct?

Do I need to have a pocket if my high hand is quads or full house?

I had A5, and the board is 555JQ. Is that good?

I had A7, and the board is AA987. Is that good?

Scenario one - no high hand

Scenario two - aces full of 7's

Even though the Ace would be the kicker and play as part of his hand?

It's standard in most places for 4OAK to need a pocket pair for the BBJ, but I've never heard of needing it for the HHJ.

Seabrook requires it for both.

Foxwoods requires it too for HH

Mohegan HH rule is that you must hold a pocket pair in hand for a quad to qualify.

Foxwoods HH rule is that you do not need a pocket pair however the kicker must play. If you had the A5 hand at Foxwoods then it would have qualified.

This is incorrect. At Foxwoods.....

Quads for HH you do not need to be holding a pocket pair, they both must play as in the A5 example above.

Quads for BBJ you DO need to be holding a pocket pair to be a jackpot eligible hand.

I had A5, and the board is 555JQ. Is that good?

I had A7, and the board is AA987. Is that good?

Scenario one - no high hand

Scenario two - aces full of 7's

The above is exactly what happened, I wasn't qualified for HH with Scenario one, but next day I got it with Scenario two.

How could that make sense?? I use both card in both cases, and both cases are not pockets.

That's just it, at Mohegan apparently for 4OAK you need pockets, doesn't matter that your hole card kicker plays.

I've seen a high hand without both cards in the hole for stud. 4 K's won it and 3 were up cards. Won the $500 every 30 minutes high hand. At the 'woods....


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Yes, this discussion takes place at the table amongst players every time I play there. Pocket pair for quads only. Need to use both cards in your hand for the boat, but doesn't have to be a pocket pair. There was a hand Saturday night where AQJ10 diamonds on board, player in hand had KK with the king of diamonds. Nice royal, too bad so sad, no high hand for you.

<brag>My fourth hand at a new 1/1 table last Friday, second hour of the high hand promo, was dealt AA and flopped quads. Queen kicker on the river. Held for the next 45 minutes for a thousand smackers. Bazinga. </brag>

Went to Mohegan yesterday for my roughly once a quarter visit. The casino - and poker room - have entered a depressing "it is what it is" phase. Too bad, since the shops and restaurants seem much improved as compared to a year or two ago.

There's not much to say about the poker room that hasn't already been said. The mood was subdued, although I was there only before 4pm. Lots of OMCs and people there to sit quietly and play cards. That's their prerogative, but it's not a becoming atmosphere for folks looking to give poker a try, assuming those people even exist in this day and age plus are willing to trek through an empty casino to get to the room.

Two highlights - (1) waiting for 2/5 I'm in a 1/2 game and in the BB. It's folded to the SB, who looks at his cards and then says "I'll chop." I note that chopping or not is normally done before looking, so I say no. He calls, I make it 22, and he proceeds to act like I bludgeoned his only child. (2) The 2/5 game is finally called, and a guy sits down and declares he's really sick. Oh joy. Again - it's his right to play, but he looked bad, like death warmed over bad. And it's definitely not like this guy was on vacation and didn't want to waste what little time he had. I racked up and decided poker, pun intended, wasn't in the cards.

On the drive home I definitely was looking ahead to Wynn opening....

To be fair you picked a terrible day to do it. Like all places, a weekday morning is typically not when you're going to get these action players you're seeking. Furthermore, FW runs a high hand promo on thursdays which takes some of the player pool.

If you came today after 5:00 for example... it would be a totally different feel.

1 - First week in June, the slowest time of the year, and one of first beautiful sunny days of the year.

2 - Late morning/early afternoon poker session.

3 - While HH promo is occurring 7 miles down the street with 40+ tables running.


I'm not sure what kind of atmosphere you were expecting with these factors in play. The night games are always soft but those players complaining about being sick and everything else under the moon along with those angling chops isn't exclusive to Mohegan Sun.

If you tried it any night after 8pm, especially a Friday or Saturday, I'm certain that you'd have a much much different experience.

Chopping is usually done everytime, doesn't matter if you look or not. Unless you want to pay the $1 on the flop rake. You were being silly, not the small blind.

Was I though? Sure - in the end it was peanuts, but if he looks then decides to chop, he's getting the benefit of added information. All I'm saying is maybe I don't pay enough attention but I can't think of many - if any - instances outside of huge high hand or BBJ jackpots when I've seen someone look first and then decide whether to chop or not.

To the other respondents, the FW high hand happening and the first nice weather day are fair points. Still though - I've come on days like this over the past few years and the room seems to have entered an era where they've just stopped trying and are going through the motions. I'm at the point where I'd prefer a return to the electronic tables they had in the casino of the sun for a while before the room reopened. People would stumble upon them and "give poker a try" and the pace of play was faster. Being able to virtually print money on them didn't hurt either.