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Posting this, because, the more people who hear about it, the more it might help our fellow man out of his jam.
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire...ecked-out.html

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12-30-2021 , 07:27 PM

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Burdzthewurd

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,179

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Originally Posted by cal617

Posting this, because, the more people who hear about it, the more it might help our fellow man out of his jam.
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire...ecked-out.html

I have zero faith in ever keeping my roll in a hotel safe - seems like you're easy prey for having it stolen while the casino shrugs unless you have it in a box there

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12-31-2021 , 06:41 PM

#679

Rizzeedizzee

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,073

It must be pretty nice to be so loaded that your occupation is listed as semi-professional poker and blackjack player. And how can one be considered a semi-pro poker player and not even have a Hendon Mob page? Even if he was predominantly cash who doesn't at least dabble in tourneys like the WSOP and Circuit events or other series? So either he's purely cash or the semi-pro label is a stretch. Methinks the latter. Look - if he got ripped off I feel bad for him; but as the previous poster said, it wasn't the smartest thing to do given the establishment and sum of money.

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01-02-2022 , 02:35 PM

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jelloman

grinder

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 426

I see that MGM Springfiled poker room is raising the bad beat drop to $2. They want the BBJ to grow faster. Anyone in the know want to let us know what the max rake is now with this increase ?

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01-02-2022 , 02:42 PM

#681

markn

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 25

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Originally Posted by jelloman

I see that MGM Springfiled poker room is raising the bad beat drop to $2. They want the BBJ to grow faster. Anyone in the know want to let us know what the max rake is now with this increase ?

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01-02-2022 , 03:19 PM

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Mat the Gambler

adept

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,170

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Originally Posted by Burdzthewurd

I have zero faith in ever keeping my roll in a hotel safe - seems like you're easy prey for having it stolen while the casino shrugs unless you have it in a box there

According to the story, he had it in his room safe. The hotel checked him out early for a reason they haven't disclosed and took all of his stuff out of the room, including the $30k in the safe. But when they gave it back to him, $20k of it was missing.

Seems like an open-and-shut case that they owe him $20k, and some employee is about to get fired and sued for $20k.

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01-02-2022 , 03:36 PM

#683

PokerGuvnA

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 499

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Originally Posted by Mat the Gambler

Open and shut seems a bit of a reach. How do you prove you left 30k and not 10k.

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01-03-2022 , 08:03 AM

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Big Whoop

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,069

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Originally Posted by PokerGuvnA

Open and shut seems a bit of a reach. How do you prove you left 30k and not 10k.

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Ya. I think it's an open and shut in favor of the casino. Unless the employee took the money and deposited into a bank account. But that be incredibly dumb.

We're just supposed to take the word if a gambler?

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01-04-2022 , 10:42 PM

#685

Fore

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 3,777

Well I have not played any tournaments other than some local free rolls ever. I even sometimes travel to circuits or other series to play in cash games. I just have no desire to play tournaments.

What is interesting is I once left $20+k in a hotel safe in Vegas and DID check out. A hour later i realized and called. They had rebooked the room and since middle of the night would not wake the new person. Had to wait for morning, have hotel track him down for permission for security to enter room and get stuff from safe.

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01-11-2022 , 05:47 PM

#686

Big Whoop

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,069

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Originally Posted by markn

6+2

How's the feedback about this in the poker community? Thats a lot coming out of pots.

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01-12-2022 , 08:28 AM

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Mr ATM

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 487

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Originally Posted by Big Whoop

How's the feedback about this in the poker community? Thats a lot coming out of pots.

Wow you aren't kidding... That's roughly $200-$250 and hour leaving the table !!!

I know the max buy in is $500 there but if you have a table with people buying in for the $100-$200 range (which is entirely possible) and the same players staying at the table for an extended amount of time (also possible especially right when the room opens) then the money will evaporate quickly from that table and everybody will be busto or close to it

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01-12-2022 , 08:56 AM

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BillyBoy5885

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 212

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Originally Posted by Mr ATM

If $200-$250 is leaving the table each hour at $6+$2, then $175-$218 must have been leaving the table at $5+$2. Regardless, it isn’t ideal.

However, the NH rooms are $5+$2 and only 8 handed. The effective take paid per player per hour is actually slightly higher in NH because MGM is 10 handed.

$225 off table per hour, divided by 10 players is $22.50/hr/player.

$197 off table per hour, divided by 8 players is $24.62/hr/player.

Neither option is great, but I think MGM
still has the edge vs the NH rooms, especially when you include comp points (2/hr vs .50/hr) and the free drink service.

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01-12-2022 , 10:00 AM

#689

Big Whoop

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,069

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Originally Posted by BillyBoy5885

If $200-$250 is leaving the table each hour at $6+$2, then $175-$218 must have been leaving the table at $5+$2. Regardless, it isn’t ideal.

However, the NH rooms are $5+$2 and only 8 handed. The effective take paid per player per hour is actually slightly higher in NH because MGM is 10 handed.

$225 off table per hour, divided by 10 players is $22.50/hr/player.

$197 off table per hour, divided by 8 players is $24.62/hr/player.

Neither option is great, but I think MGM

still has the edge vs the NH rooms, especially when you include comp points (2/hr vs .50/hr) and the free drink service.

My feeling with poker is it's evolving into jackpot hunting. I don't like it. Bring back 00s poker.

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01-12-2022 , 01:16 PM

#690

amazinmets73

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,556

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Originally Posted by BillyBoy5885

Where are you getting $200-$250? Even if a table spreads 25 hands per hour and each hand goes to max rake, that's only $200.

https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/t...ames-33298.htm

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01-12-2022 , 01:57 PM

#691

PokerGuvnA

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 499

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Originally Posted by amazinmets73

Where are you getting $200-$250? Even if a table spreads 25 hands per hour and each hand goes to max rake, that's only $200.

https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/t...ames-33298.htm

I think you're confusing hands per down/dealer (30 minutes) with hands per hour (60 minutes). Any dealer who deals 25 hands per hour max wouldn't last long. Most dealers get in 20-35 hands per down, depending on the behavior of the players, type of game, and dealer's skill. And I would say 50% max raked per hour is a fair estimate.

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01-12-2022 , 07:28 PM

#692

cal617

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 172

Boost in MGM Springfield's November revenues is attributed to the return of live poker.
https://www.wwlp.com/news/local-news...o-in-november/

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01-14-2022 , 12:39 PM

#693

ranceg29

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 149

If you read that poker news article it shows a little over $4 on avg is taken out at 6+2 rake. Add tipping and your probably up to $5.50 a hand. I've played a lot at MGM. They deal about 35 hands an hour. $192.50 an hour off the table seems close to right

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01-14-2022 , 01:26 PM

#694

Mr ATM

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 487

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Originally Posted by ranceg29

I'd have to agree... definitely makes it a tough game especially when you figure $1 for a dealer tip means most hands $9 is evaporating from the table.

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01-15-2022 , 01:14 PM

#695

Big Whoop

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,069

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Originally Posted by Mr ATM

I'd have to agree... definitely makes it a tough game especially when you figure $1 for a dealer tip means most hands $9 is evaporating from the table.

It's a deal breaker to me to go and play there. Especially since I never hit any jackpots.

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01-17-2022 , 11:32 AM

#696

Mr ATM

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 487

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Originally Posted by Big Whoop

It's a deal breaker to me to go and play there. Especially since I never hit any jackpots.

Totally agree absolute deal breaker... surprised more people don't feel the same way especially since 99% of players never hit a jackpot

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01-22-2022 , 07:07 PM

#697

MarcoEsq

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 167

Coming up in about a week to check out this room. From what I can tell, poker room is open from 11am - 3am. What's the protocol for getting on a list? Can I call, and how early or do I need to be physically present and sign up with the brush? Also, I'm staying at an Airbnb and will be using Uber to get to the MGM. Is there a designated pickup/dropoff? Any other tips appreciated.

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01-22-2022 , 07:27 PM

#698

markn

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 25

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Originally Posted by MarcoEsq

11am to 3am is correct.

Call in 413 273 5767 be there within one hour

Yes designated Uber pickup spot

Good luck

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01-23-2022 , 11:48 AM

#699

MarcoEsq

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 167

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Originally Posted by markn

11am to 3am is correct.

Call in 413 273 5767 be there within one hour

Yes designated Uber pickup spot

Good luck

Thanks for the info

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01-29-2022 , 02:53 PM

#700

soteybob

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 5

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Originally Posted by Mr ATM

I'd have to agree... definitely makes it a tough game especially when you figure $1 for a dealer tip means most hands $9 is evaporating from the table.

But then you see how most people play there and said rake is easily forgotten

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